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Old 08-18-2008, 09:01 AM   #1
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New to Forced Induction? Gale Banks talks about FI (Boost).

For those that want a great overview of forced induction (Superchargers and Turbos), here is a video of the man who probably knows more about FI than anyone else.

Hopefully You'll enjoy it.

Edit: Better links,

Part 1: Roots, Twin Screw, and Centrifugal Superchargers
http://www.bankspower.com/videos/show/2



Part 2: Nitrous, Turbos, and Diesels
http://www.bankspower.com/videos/show/3



I really enjoyed his take on the future of musclecars. Very cool.

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Old 08-18-2008, 09:08 AM   #2
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Ooo... This looks pretty good. Thanks!
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I totally get the Turbo thing. If Mr. Banks says it's the way to go then so be it.

But I'm looking for 600 RWHP, and I love the sound of a twin screw supercharger. I'm gonna have trouble getting 600 to the ground anyway. For the kind of power I'm talking about I don't really want all the complications of Turbo. Having said that, if I were to go 700 plus and money was no object... I'd have a small block Banks TT setup without question.
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I remember watching that. Very informative for beginers
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:12 PM   #5
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It certainly gives me something to contemplate. I like both turbos and SC, but mine will have at least 500 horses before I tack on any type of forced induction stuff. There's plenty of time for everyone to give feedback and total HP numbers, as well as problems before I invest in either. It's still exciting.
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I totally get the Turbo thing. If Mr. Banks says it's the way to go then so be it.

But I'm looking for 600 RWHP, and I love the sound of a twin screw supercharger. I'm gonna have trouble getting 600 to the ground anyway. For the kind of power I'm talking about I don't really want all the complications of Turbo. Having said that, if I were to go 700 plus and money was no object... I'd have a small block Banks TT setup without question.
+1 I'd prefer the sound of a supercharger, ease of installation, reliability, and tunablility, opposed to the complicated design and nature of turbos. There's no question that Banks knows his stuff though.

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I remember watching that. Very informative for beginers
I thought that looked familiar. The narator sounded familiar then I saw the introduction on the second video and remembered seeing it.

Good information nonetheless!!!
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+1 I'd prefer the sound of a supercharger, ease of installation, reliability, and tunablility, opposed to the complicated design and nature of turbos. There's no question that Banks knows his stuff though.



I thought that looked familiar. The narator sounded familiar then I saw the introduction on the second video and remembered seeing it.

Good information nonetheless!!!
Can anyone please tell me what's so complicated about turbochargers? Or is that if you have to know like what size of turbo to use etc?
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I guess complicated may be the wrong word. I'm just not a fan of all the plumbing that comes along with it. But, my biggest concern is the oil requirement for the turbos. Most bolt on Blowers don't need oil while the turbos do. It just makes me a little more comfortable when I shut down the motor, everything is shut down. While turbos will continue to spin and will require oil to cool them off. If I'm not mistaken some turbo kits won't let you shut off the motor until the turbos are cool enough. Things like this make me more of a blower guy. And the sound.
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Complicated isn't the right word; my bad. I should've said, IMHO, it's just more complex and, for me, not entirely necessary when you have a simpler blower you can bolt onto the top of the engine. I think the plumbing for the turbo(s), like coolant and/or oil, exhaust temperature, exhaust plumbing, bigger intercooler to fight higher IATs, and such just make it less desirable on a street car that's expected to put down good power, reliably, repeatedly. Don't get me wrong, TRs and GNs were flippin' bad@$$. I just believe there is more mechanical control over a supercharger, therefor, easier not to allow to get out of hand (overboost, creep, etc.)

I'm not arguing what's better, just what I prefer more
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Complicated isn't the right word; my bad. I should've said, IMHO, it's just more complex and, for me, not entirely necessary when you have a simpler blower you can bolt onto the top of the engine. I think the plumbing for the turbo(s), like coolant and/or oil, exhaust temperature, exhaust plumbing, bigger intercooler to fight higher IATs, and such just make it less desirable on a street car that's expected to put down good power, reliably, repeatedly. Don't get me wrong, TRs and GNs were flippin' bad@$$. I just believe there is more mechanical control over a supercharger, therefor, easier not to allow to get out of hand (overboost, creep, etc.)

I'm not arguing what's better, just what I prefer more
Dude! Did you cut and paste my post??? The More I read your posts the more I think we were separated at birth.
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Lots of good info; learned a lot of new things I was unaware of… Great post
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Complicated isn't the right word; my bad. I should've said, IMHO, it's just more complex and, for me, not entirely necessary when you have a simpler blower you can bolt onto the top of the engine. I think the plumbing for the turbo(s), like coolant and/or oil, exhaust temperature, exhaust plumbing, bigger intercooler to fight higher IATs, and such just make it less desirable on a street car that's expected to put down good power, reliably, repeatedly. Don't get me wrong, TRs and GNs were flippin' bad@$$. I just believe there is more mechanical control over a supercharger, therefor, easier not to allow to get out of hand (overboost, creep, etc.)

I'm not arguing what's better, just what I prefer more
Ditto,....(dude get out of my head)

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Thats what I think of both U guys!!! well you know what they say great minds think alike!
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Thats what I think of both U guys!!! well you know what they say great minds think alike!
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