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Old 08-18-2008, 11:31 PM   #1
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WHAT zr1??????

wow got to bottem whats in red

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I didn't disappear. I don't work at Pedders. It is worse. I own it. I, we, Pedders try to respect all forum rules and online communities. If we are not supposed to post here please let us know. Here is the latest on the Camaro suspension.

Pedders has been working on a special Camaro project. There is some information we can post in the forum and other information we are not allowed to post until it is released officially by GM. Based on the car that was displayed at the Woodward Cruise last week, we can release this information.



FRONT SUSPENSION

Front Geometry





Front Strut, Coil and Boot



Strut, Endlink and Tie Rod



REAR SUSPENSION

Trailing and Radius Arms



Forward Sub-frame Bush



Aft Sub-frame Bush



Coil Over Shock



Sway Bar, Endlinks and CV Shafts



There is no wheel hop in this chassis as is common with IRS vehicles. We can tell you that the IRS is robust. The front suspension slightly modified from the ZETA / VE / Commodore G8 with essentially stronger control arms designed to handle more power with larger wheel and tire combinations. The ZETA II Camaro may well be the most structurally sound vehicle in the GM line-up exceeding the strength of the 322 / CTS. Keep in mind the CTS is as strong or stronger than the alleged best of the best coming out of Europe.

The Camaro as delivered from the Dealer will be the best of the Modern Muscle on the road and with modification to the engine and suspension capable of running with anything short of the exotics. There is a reason Chevy built the ZR1. It is called the Camaro.


are you serious and know for a fact
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:35 PM   #2
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lol, I love the Camaro and all but I just don't see it competing with a Vette. I guess they mean ZR1 leaves no question it is the best.

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Old 08-18-2008, 11:38 PM   #3
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i was thinking diferently darn like zr1 in camaro
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:55 AM   #4
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No - I think what it meant was that chevy built the ZR1 so that the corvette would still be firmly seated above the camaro when it comes out next year.
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:38 AM   #5
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No - I think what it meant was that chevy built the ZR1 so that the corvette would still be firmly seated above the camaro when it comes out next year.
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:45 AM   #6
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correct....no matter what, the Corvette has to remain on top.
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Old 08-19-2008, 07:23 AM   #7
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Old 08-19-2008, 09:05 AM   #8
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Old 08-19-2008, 09:18 AM   #9
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^ I'm not so sure about that.

Remember, Ed Peper said that he had no problems with the Camaro stepping on the Vette.


But I do agree that A (ZR1) Vette should always be the top dog for GM.

But the top Camaro could be on par with the base Vette, IMO.
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^ I'm not so sure about that.

Remember, Ed Peper said that he had no problems with the Camaro stepping on the Vette.


But I do agree that A (ZR1) Vette should always be the top dog for GM.

But the top Camaro could be on par with the base Vette, IMO.
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I've always liked the feeling of stomping on 'Vettes. A few Z06s (C5s) at the track didn't like it though...
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Old 08-19-2008, 09:58 AM   #11
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well i hearda potent camaro is planned as fast or faster than the zo6

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well pedders guy said a potent camaro is planned as fast or faster than the zo6
I don't mean to sound argumentative, but I highly doubt Camaro will be faster than a Z06, or even as fast; well, maybe in a straight line. I truly hope it does, but physics don't lie. I won't go into the differences in chassis (mostly because it's been said before and I don't want to harp on the weight, also, I'm not privy to all the information) but even if the top-dog model makes the same power as a Z06, I just don't think it'll keep up. Hey, I'll eat crow though if if does; HAPPILY!
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There is a very potent Camaro planned that I belive and "they" see as fast or faster than a ZO6.

they being camaro team
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Nah. Maybe faster than the base C6, but not the Z06 or ZR1.
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Nah. Maybe faster than the base C6, but not the Z06 or ZR1.
wtf say the camaro gets like 600 hp z28 im pretty sure itl be faster than a zo6
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wtf say the camaro gets like 600 hp z28 im pretty sure itl be faster than a zo6
Meh. I don't know. Something just tells me that it won't happen.
And a 600 horsepower Camaro is already encroaching on ZR1 territory. The LS9 gets 638 HP.
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Meh. I don't know. Something just tells me that it won't happen.
And a 600 horsepower Camaro is already encroaching on ZR1 territory. The LS9 gets 638 HP.
so a zr1 would own it no offense i love the camaro
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Look at it like this...

Yes, the Camaro will step on Corvette's toes a little bit. Some Camaro's will be faster and have more power then a regular base C6. But then it's probably not competing with that base C6.

The SS is equivalent to a base C6.
The Z28 will probably be around the ZR1 but will never get more power than it.

The Z28 will might beat the Z06 out (At least in terms of power).
Or it might be just rated under the Z06. It's anyones guess right now.

But the Camaro will never be GM's Corvette. It won't get more power then the Corvette it could potentially run against. It just won't happen.
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ZR1>Z06>Z28>C6>SS>C5
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There is a very potent Camaro planned that I belive and "they" see as fast or faster than a ZO6.

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I hope so, but at what price?...

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Nah. Maybe faster than the base C6, but not the Z06 or ZR1.
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wtf say the camaro gets like 600 hp z28 im pretty sure itl be faster than a zo6
Yeah, but I don't think many people are willing to pay $50K+ for a Camaro. If I had the $$$, I would, but I don't think that I could. If that's what I have to wait for, I guess I'm jumping on the SS band wagon and throwing an SC on the car.

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Look at it like this...

Yes, the Camaro will step on Corvette's toes a little bit. Some Camaro's will be faster and have more power then a regular base C6. But then it's probably not competing with that base C6.

The SS is equivalent to a base C6.
The Z28 will probably be around the ZR1 but will never get more power than it.

The Z28 will might beat the Z06 out (At least in terms of power).
Or it might be just rated under the Z06. It's anyones guess right now.

But the Camaro will never be GM's Corvette. It won't get more power then the Corvette it could potentially run against. It just won't happen.
If I got a LS9 in my Z28 for just under $50K, I'd eat my own foot. I don't know how I'd operate the clutch pedal... Who knows how far GM could take Camaro and keep the price at an average Camaro-buyer's level?
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Agreed. Theres no way I'd even be able to afford it at 40,000. But the SS camaro is certainly going to be stepping on base vette toes (Yeah, its heavier, but it will also be significantly less expensive) and thats good enough for me.
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what you didn't hear the new camaro is coming with a 1272 hp engine dubbed the ls18. . .it will destroy all. . .
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