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Old 03-03-2013, 03:31 PM   #1676
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One of the issues I can see is the tire size. Those are approx. 0.4" taller which will change your gear ratio. Changing it from the stock ratio of 3.23 to a new gear of 3.19. Next issue is still the tires, those are summer tires and I am sure they did not like that cold temperature for trying to hook up. The enigne loved the cold air, but not the tires and traction. I would try again when it gets to about 50 degrees, best of both world's for tires and engine. Redcue the rear tire PSI even lower trying as low as 28.
And if you are still having problems, try an aftermarket torque converter.
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:34 PM   #1677
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Will try again this weekend, should be in the 50's hopefully weather people arent too assuring. But I was in the market looking for nitto Invo tires without changing the rim what spec should I consider?

What wheels are you currently running?

I researched for 18 months for my wheel/tire combination to perform for all the duties I will ask from them. Still ended up with drag radials for track days.

Here is what I found from Tirerack.com on those tires.

"However like all summer tires, the Ventus V12 evo is not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice."
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:36 PM   #1678
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:44 PM   #1679
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I have the 20'' SS wheels
There in lies another issue. Those are heavy wheels. weighing 32lbs each compared to the stock 19" wheels of 28.8 lbs, or the ones I am running at 23.3 lbs If you have an opportunity to look for lighter wheels that will help. If not, putting a 275/40/20 on the rear will help get you back to stock tire size and with a little more traction.
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There in lies another issue. Those are heavy wheels. weighing 32lbs each compared to the stock 19" wheels of 28.8 lbs, or the ones I am running at 23.3 lbs If you have an opportunity to look for lighter wheels that will help. If not, putting a 275/40/20 on the rear will help get you back to stock tire size and with a little more traction.
I am def not changing the wheels, guess I need to lose about 20lbs gym here I come
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I am def not changing the wheels, guess I need to lose about 20lbs gym here I come
See if you can find some vette replica 18' wheels and get you some really good DRs for those. Then you can cut some weight, get your tire diameter back to where it was stock and you only have to use them when you go to the track.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:01 PM   #1682
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See if you can find some vette replica 18' wheels and get you some really good DRs for those. Then you can cut some weight, get your tire diameter back to where it was stock and you only have to use them when you go to the track.


A set like these that I picked up used. Gives me a gear ratio of 3.57

These allowed me to set a new PB and cut a sub 2.0 60' time.
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ok so I made it out friday night for the first run in my camaro here is a pic of my time slip. not to bad but I want to go faster any suggustions?
my car is 13 and the temp was around 45 deg.
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Old 03-03-2013, 07:33 PM   #1684
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ok so I made it out friday night for the first run in my camaro here is a pic of my time slip. not to bad but I want to go faster any suggustions?
my car is 13 and the temp was around 45 deg.
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ok so I made it out friday night for the first run in my camaro here is a pic of my time slip. not to bad but I want to go faster any suggustions?
my car is 13 and the temp was around 45 deg.
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What mods do you have? What wheels and tires are you currently using?


....give us some details and we can help you out.
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:56 AM   #1686
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Sorry forgot to mention my mods. I've got a K&N CAI, OBX LT's, and Pypes catback, trifecta tune is ordered and on the way. I'm also using the stock 1LT 18" wheels and tires and I'm and A6.
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It appears to be all in the 60' time. Your top end speed is normal for those mods. Getting out of the hole is the key. if you can get that down to a 2.0X you can cut as much as 0.4 at the top end and get yourself into the 13's. Depends on the tires and grip. Some street tires like to be heated up. Others not so much. If you can get a set of drag radials on those 18's that will be a huge help.
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It appears to be all in the 60' time. Your top end speed is normal for those mods. Getting out of the hole is the key. if you can get that down to a 2.0X you can cut as much as 0.4 at the top end and get yourself into the 13's. Depends on the tires and grip. Some street tires like to be heated up. Others not so much. If you can get a set of drag radials on those 18's that will be a huge help.
Get some more traction and you'll hit 13s no problem. You can either go with better tires on your current LT wheels or you can get yourself a set of wheels and drag radials and do that. You also don't have full bolt-ons so you could add more and possibly hit 13s like that as well.
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Thanks for the info! I really had to play with the throttle to keep it from spinning off the line, even if I heated up the tires or not and tried running different ways with the traction control options. I ended up getting that time after about my 4th straight run (there wern't many people out there) and I guess the tires finally heated up enough? I do have some plans to run a differen't wheel and tire combo in the future (probably Torq Thrust and Nitto's) but until then I'll look for some cheap wheels to put on the back and put a set of drag radials on. There are also plans to add proted TB, IM, and insulator... maybe get a local shop to do my heads to after that I think i would have just about all the bolt ons?
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:57 PM   #1690
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Thanks for the info! I really had to play with the throttle to keep it from spinning off the line, even if I heated up the tires or not and tried running different ways with the traction control options. I ended up getting that time after about my 4th straight run (there wern't many people out there) and I guess the tires finally heated up enough? I do have some plans to run a differen't wheel and tire combo in the future (probably Torq Thrust and Nitto's) but until then I'll look for some cheap wheels to put on the back and put a set of drag radials on. There are also plans to add proted TB, IM, and insulator... maybe get a local shop to do my heads to after that I think i would have just about all the bolt ons?
Don't forget high flow cats. I've got CAI, TB, and cat-back. Only bolt on left for me is HFCs (I'm a 2012 so headers, ported IM, and spacer is not really an option). I'm also un-tuned. All of that and I just recently got into the low 14.2's. Stock RS 20" wheels and P-Zero tires, dust off the tires in the box (little if any smoke), and I usually cut a 2.1s 60'. The 13's seem to be evading me.
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Don't forget high flow cats. I've got CAI, TB, and cat-back. Only bolt on left for me is HFCs (I'm a 2012 so headers, ported IM, and spacer is not really an option). I'm also un-tuned. All of that and I just recently got into the low 14.2's. Stock RS 20" wheels and P-Zero tires, dust off the tires in the box (little if any smoke), and I usually cut a 2.1s 60'. The 13's seem to be evading me.
He's using the stock 18" wheels and tires. The 18" wheels and tires sure are lighter but damn do the tires suck for traction. I would honestly love to get myself a set of the 20's with the pirellis even if just for one run to see what 60' I can pull off with them.

I do hear the pirellis like a good burnout so maybe you can try that if you don't mind wasting your tires lol
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man I really did not like the pirellis. They had decent grip but good lord they were like truck tires lol.
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I need some help car #114, I ran this 14.1 consistent this friday, I cannot get into the 13's. I have a A6 with everything in my sig. I Really dont want to change my wheels to do it.
Late to the party here, but I think the track is hurting your 60' times a bit. I've been to ATCO a couple times and the problem I have with the track is that you can't avoid the water box with your front tires. People still run nice times there but it seems to be more the AWD or 12 second and faster cars that are able to get a really good burnout in and burn all water off their tires.

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man I really did not like the pirellis. They had decent grip but good lord they were like truck tires lol.
Still got my best 60' ever with the pirellis lol 2.0 flat in about 80 degree weather, they are under rated when used in warm temperatures.
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I don't have my slip with me but I ran a 14.194 @ 97.10 MPH recently. Fastest time I've run with my current mods (Ethanol Free Premium Gas, CAI, Trifecta tune, RX Catch Can, and RX Breather) on stock RS rims and tread. I did no tire prep because it was at TnT which starts before I get off work so I hurried over there with the fiancee. I did decent burnouts before each run because it was about 50 degrees and let car cool before I made my passes that night. It was her first time being there too and she loved it. I will post up my slips from that night tomorrow. I ran 14.2 rest of the time. Hoping to have some good times at Midnight Madness tomorrow night. I race at Memphis International Raceway (MIR).

I am looking at tires/rims or exhaust right now, but not sure if I should continue or just save up for a used SS (really want to get a SS someday).
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I don't have my slip with me but I ran a 14.194 @ 97.10 MPH recently. Fastest time I've run with my current mods (Ethanol Free Premium Gas, CAI, Trifecta tune, RX Catch Can, and RX Breather) on stock RS rims and tread. I did no tire prep because it was at TnT which starts before I get off work so I hurried over there with the fiancee. I did decent burnouts before each run because it was about 50 degrees and let car cool before I made my passes that night. It was her first time being there too and she loved it. I will post up my slips from that night tomorrow. I ran 14.2 rest of the time. Hoping to have some good times at Midnight Madness tomorrow night. I race at Memphis International Raceway (MIR).

I am looking at tires/rims or exhaust right now, but not sure if I should continue or just save up for a used SS (really want to get a SS someday).
14.2 with just an intake and a tune is great for an auto...nice runs! Do you remember your 60'? More evidence those Pirellis aren't bad at all...
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14.2 with just an intake and a tune is great for an auto...nice runs! Do you remember your 60'? More evidence those Pirellis aren't bad at all...
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Here are the three slips from my night.

R/T............. 0.218
60'............. 2.112
330'........... 5.980
1/8............. 9.168
1/8 mph.... 77.48
1000'........ 11.925
1/4............. 14.254
1/4 mph.... 96.83
Name of the track: Memphis International Raceway
Date of pass: March--14--2013 at 9:11 P.M.
Weather conditions: 52 F, 273ft elevation, 30.185 in Pressure, 53% Humidity, DA of -338

R/T............. 0.130
60'............. 2.068
330'........... 5.945
1/8............. 9.118
1/8 mph.... 77.53
1000'........ 11.842
1/4............. 14.194
1/4 mph.... 97.10
Name of the track: Memphis International Raceway
Date of pass: March--14--2013 at 9:16 P.M.
Weather conditions: 52 F, 273ft elevation, 30.185 in Pressure, 53% Humidity, DA of -338

My last pass due to wheel hop was against a young punk in a Chrysler 300. He had a better 1/4 but I passed the finish line before him.

R/T............. 0.309........ 0.802
60'............. 2.113......... 2.326
330'........... 5.980......... 6.142
1/8............. 9.152.........9.224
1/8 mph.... 77.66............79.72
1000'........ 11.902..........11.901
1/4............. 14.221........14.154
1/4 mph.... 97.24............99.89
Name of the track: Memphis International Raceway
Date of pass: March--14--2013 at 9:24 P.M.
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Yeah maybe, my best on them was 2.09 I believe and on the Nitto's I have I got a 1.8. Of course they better cut better 60' since it is wider and sticker lol.

I'm about to switch over to Pilot Super Sport 275. I'm focusing more on autocross now, but I'll see what I can do at the 1/4 too.
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I don't have my slip with me but I ran a 14.194 @ 97.10 MPH recently. Fastest time I've run with my current mods (Ethanol Free Premium Gas, CAI, Trifecta tune, RX Catch Can, and RX Breather) on stock RS rims and tread. I did no tire prep because it was at TnT which starts before I get off work so I hurried over there with the fiancee. I did decent burnouts before each run because it was about 50 degrees and let car cool before I made my passes that night. It was her first time being there too and she loved it. I will post up my slips from that night tomorrow. I ran 14.2 rest of the time. Hoping to have some good times at Midnight Madness tomorrow night. I race at Memphis International Raceway (MIR).

I am looking at tires/rims or exhaust right now, but not sure if I should continue or just save up for a used SS (really want to get a SS someday).
So what launch technique did you use to get the good 60' time? Did you launch from idle, or near idle, or something different?

Also, you said you did burnouts. Did you actually smoke the tires a bit, or just spin them a bit to clean them off?
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So what launch technique did you use to get the good 60' time? Did you launch from idle, or near idle, or something different?

Also, you said you did burnouts. Did you actually smoke the tires a bit, or just spin them a bit to clean them off?
I launched around 1750 RPM and rolled into it at third yellow.

I smoked them a little bit each time.
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Went to Lapeer Dragway today. Set a new personal best.

13.664 @ 100.88


Tires used on the pass: 265/40/18 Mickey Thompson Drag Radilas.
Performance Mods (if any): Injen CAI, MRT 2.0 Axle Back Exhaust, OBX Headers, V Max Ported Throttle Body, V Max Black Ice-Olator, Trifecta Tune, Magnaflow Resonated X Pipe, RX Ported Intake Manifold, RX Plenum Spacer

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R/T.......... .528
60'.............1.936
330'........... --
660'........... 8.868
660’ mph......79.49
1320' ............13.664
1320' mph.........100.88

Name of the track: Lapeer Dragway

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