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Old 07-24-2013, 11:20 PM   #1776
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Yes, that would potentially put me on the same playing field... Although I'll never get to experience what Sport Mode feels like... I really wonder if it makes a difference in the 1/4 times?
Stock, probably not. With a tune yes, but you could just tune drive mode the same way.


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Old 07-25-2013, 07:50 AM   #1777
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I can tell you I have run in both D and Sport Mode. It makes a difference. Probably a tenth or so.
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I tested at the 1/4mile track a couple months back and Sport mode was 3 tenths faster then Manual mode consistantly, so i would have to think it would be the same or maybe even faster then D mode.
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Old 07-25-2013, 08:48 AM   #1779
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Few questions...are the people running 13's or better running full trim or are they taking the spare, seats, etc. out of the car? Also, are those times posted true track times or are they from a programmer or DA corrected track times. Reason i ask, i have a lot of bolt ons and without the nitrous with full trim including spare tire and stuff in the trunk it ran 14.2. It was hot and humid and car was always running hot(205-212 range). Will try again in the cooler weather and try it with the Nitrous as well.
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Few questions...are the people running 13's or better running full trim or are they taking the spare, seats, etc. out of the car? Also, are those times posted true track times or are they from a programmer or DA corrected track times. Reason i ask, i have a lot of bolt ons and without the nitrous with full trim including spare tire and stuff in the trunk it ran 14.2. It was hot and humid and car was always running hot(205-212 range). Will try again in the cooler weather and try it with the Nitrous as well.
The only thing I did take out was the spare because it's easy to get out. Left everything else. True track time, I think the slip is posted above, or on the previous page.

The weather is killing everyone's times right now... Could be your elevation as well? Didn't look to see where you are.

What's killing me? A 2.92 gear ratio, and not having sport mode.

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Old 07-26-2013, 08:03 AM   #1781
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If you have an LFX you should be able to get a tune. The LLTs had problems I know.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:06 AM   #1782
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I have a 2012 and I think the 2013 has the same ECU; at least I haven't heard otherwise. We are tuning almost everything we want on mine.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:01 AM   #1783
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It has been my experience that S is indeed faster than D. From what I can tell the real benefit on the strip is that S holds on to 3rd gear longer whereas D would try to shift into 4th right before the trap. No bueno.

I'm still untuned so perhaps the difference would be even more noticeable afterwards, assuming I leave D alone and the tune is on S or something like that.
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:22 PM   #1784
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I don't see why S would be faster at a drag race than D. To my knowledge S just holds a gear longer, less shifting involved. However if you are going from a dig at WOT then it really wouldn't matter.
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:25 PM   #1785
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I don't see why S would be faster at a drag race than D. To my knowledge S just holds a gear longer, less shifting involved. However if you are going from a dig at WOT then it really wouldn't matter.
It has higher shift points and lessens or removes the rev limiter I believe
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:10 PM   #1786
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I don't see why S would be faster at a drag race than D. To my knowledge S just holds a gear longer, less shifting involved. However if you are going from a dig at WOT then it really wouldn't matter.
I thought I read quicker, firmer shifts also? This 2ls has spongy feeling shifts that seem to take FOR - EV - ER.

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I have a 2012 and I think the 2013 has the same ECU; at least I haven't heard otherwise. We are tuning almost everything we want on mine.
2012 has the E93, while 2013 has the E93A, which it looks like both HP Tuners, EFI live both do not currently have support for? Can't say as for Trifecta... I wonder if Rhino79 has any experience with this?

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Old 07-26-2013, 07:24 PM   #1787
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I thought I read quicker, firmer shifts also? This 2ls has spongy feeling shifts that seem to take FOR - EV - ER.



2012 has the E93, while 2013 has the E93A, which it looks like both HP Tuners, EFI live both do not currently have support for? Can't say as for Trifecta... I wonder if Rhino79 has any experience with this?

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Did not know that. Why the FXXX does GM keep doing this. I'll see Rhino next week and ask him if he's tried either on a 2013.
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Old 07-28-2013, 03:19 PM   #1788
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Went out last night, mods include a ported LFX intake, and a 1/2" intake spacer both done by myself.

Fastest time a 14.605 @ 95.15, highest mph for the night 95.56

Got a long way to go to make the bolt on fast list...
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It has been my experience that S is indeed faster than D. From what I can tell the real benefit on the strip is that S holds on to 3rd gear longer whereas D would try to shift into 4th right before the trap. No bueno.

I'm still untuned so perhaps the difference would be even more noticeable afterwards, assuming I leave D alone and the tune is on S or something like that.
Was your 14.11 pass with full interior trim? What size rims?
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Was your 14.11 pass with full interior trim? What size rims?
I've seen you've been asking about the stock or stripped interiors.

All of the runs in the stock and bolt on section here have been with full interiors. If they weren't then we certainly weren't told or just lied to.

These cars can hit 13s...just not usually this time of the year. Your location plays a huge role in how fast your car will run down the track.
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Went out last night, mods include a ported LFX intake, and a 1/2" intake spacer both done by myself.

Fastest time a 14.605 @ 95.15, highest mph for the night 95.56

Got a long way to go to make the bolt on fast list...
So about a tenth and a half quicker than your previous outing. Not too shabby...assuming all variables the same that equates to somewhere around a 15 HP gain right? Its something lol.
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I would say most of my runs have been with the back seat out. Not always though and don't think it made much difference in my experience.

Easy to take out so 40 lbs less (includes seat anchor bracket) can't hurt.

You can make the car lighter with a near empty fuel tank too. Some feel a little extra weight in the rear helps with the launch but I haven't seen that in my 60' times.

No spare tire came with my car, just the inflator thingy and take that out also.
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Best way to drop weight is with the driver........LOL. I could stand to drop 150 lbs. leaving me around 200 lbs. This could be worth 0.15 on the track. Getting me to maybe the low 13.5's. Then again this is bench racing math. Until it happens it is just numbers.
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So about a tenth and a half quicker than your previous outing. Not too shabby...assuming all variables the same that equates to somewhere around a 15 HP gain right? Its something lol.
DA @ previous fast time was ~2330 iirc? This time it was appx. 3100. I also had an extra half a tank of fuel more than I had last time on accident.

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Best way to drop weight is with the driver........LOL. I could stand to drop 150 lbs. leaving me around 200 lbs. This could be worth 0.15 on the track. Getting me to maybe the low 13.5's. Then again this is bench racing math. Until it happens it is just numbers.
I could stand to drop about 60-70 but... Ain't nobody got time for dat! I can drop that with a pair of good skinnies on the front
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Did any of you guys happened to notice what your engine temp was when you were staging? The air was bad when i ran and the engine ran hot...i noticed my engine running 205-212 range even though i let it cool down between rounds. Nearly 70% humidity and mid 90's temps doesnt help either. My car feels faster then a 14.2...will try again in september or early october when we start to get some nicer weather.
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I found mine runs better times when hot. Worst times are when I get first get there and by the end I am running like .3 faster... i keep mine on in the staging lanes most of the time.
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Did any of you guys happened to notice what your engine temp was when you were staging? The air was bad when i ran and the engine ran hot...i noticed my engine running 205-212 range even though i let it cool down between rounds. Nearly 70% humidity and mid 90's temps doesnt help either. My car feels faster then a 14.2...will try again in september or early october when we start to get some nicer weather.
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I found mine runs better times when hot. Worst times are when I get first get there and by the end I am running like .3 faster... i keep mine on in the staging lanes most of the time.

We have found that the engine likes to perform better when hotter, but you do want colder air coming in too.

For me running whne it is 50 degrees out is a good combo of traction, cool air and decent DA.
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WE have found that the engine likes to perform better when hotter, but you do want colder air coming in too.

For me running whne it is 50 degrees out is a good combo of traction, cool air and decent DA.
Yep hot fluids and cold air... and I have the dyno sheets to prove it! LOL!

Put my LLT on the dyno after a LONG cool down period... took 5 back to back dyno pulls to see peak power! So you can see the gain of a fully warmed up LLT vs a cool one!

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