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Old 01-19-2010, 03:54 PM   #1
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Stillen Rotors Installed with other Brake Upgrades

Well my calipers were done in gloss black professionaly with the logo in Silver. They look awesome. Did the Goodridge lines, HPS pads and the Stillen rotors.

The rotors looks very nice and very good quality. I took crapy photos with the blackberry but its raining so I cant take photos til the morning.

What really blows is the rear rotors are larger than the fronts, why the hell is that?


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Old 01-19-2010, 07:35 PM   #2
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Are the stock ones all the same size? maybe they sent you the wrong ones. I'm interested in the Stillen rotors also, so please let me know how the install goes and pics!
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Old 01-19-2010, 08:01 PM   #3
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No, my rear rotors also look larger than the fronts! ??

Did you do the rotors yourself? if so, how did you break the Torx bolts loose on the front wheels since the front wheel rotates freely?

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Old 01-19-2010, 09:13 PM   #4
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front rotors are usually larger. that's strange that your rear rotors are bigger. can't wait to see the pics
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need pics.
I am looking at doing this upgrade myself.
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Old 01-19-2010, 09:21 PM   #6
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Guys the OEM rotors are the same deal the rears are larger. I placed them on top of one another and was shocked. I realized the larger rotor goes out back for the inside recess for the E brake. Stupid GM thinking for sure. The rear rotors look to be 1/4-1/2 larger but I didnt take a ruler or caliper to measure. Look wise it should be larger up front but my brakes stock like my Porsche and BMW now, Huge difference with the ATE Blue fluid, stainless lines and the HPS pads and rotors, WOW, you do hear some howling noise but thats normal with cross drilled rotors




Install was a joke. I did this alone on my lunch break at the house in exactly 39 minutes. I do have a shop full of tools at the house but once I jacked the car up i knocked it out quick. I think it would have went faster if i wasnt afriad to scratch ording my freshly painted calipers.

rotor torx screw just unscrews make sure youi have the right bit so you dont strup the head. If it doesnt budge get some WD40 and if that doesnt work get a small propane torch.


Ill have plenty of photos before 12noon EST so hang tight
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Old 01-19-2010, 09:28 PM   #7
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Guys the OEM rotors are the same deal the rears are larger. I placed them on top of one another and was shocked. I realized the larger rotor goes out back for the inside recess for the E brake. Stupid GM thinking for sure. The rear rotors look to be 1/4-1/2 larger but I didnt take a ruler or caliper to measure. Look wise it should be larger up front but my brakes stock like my Porsche and BMW now, Huge difference with the ATE Blue fluid, stainless lines and the HPS pads and rotors, WOW, you do hear some howling noise but thats normal with cross drilled rotors




Install was a joke. I did this alone on my lunch break at the house in exactly 39 minutes. I do have a shop full of tools at the house but once I jacked the car up i knocked it out quick. I think it would have went faster if i wasnt afriad to scratch ording my freshly painted calipers.

rotor torx screw just unscrews make sure youi have the right bit so you dont strup the head. If it doesnt budge get some WD40 and if that doesnt work get a small propane torch.


Ill have plenty of photos before 12noon EST so hang tight
Can you PM me the details on what it ran you to purchase all of the stuff you put on.
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Old 01-19-2010, 11:06 PM   #8
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Stock rotors are 14" front, 14.5" rear.

To help with the rotor retaining screw (torx30), I used an impact driver.
Most motorcycle owners have one. It just has whatever bit you need inserted in one end, then you hit the other end with a hammer, it's spring loaded and each blow with the hammer, twists the screw out. This keeps you from stripping out the head of the screw.
Use a hammer handle crossways through the wheel studs to hold the rotor from turning.
Use blue loctite on threads when reassembling screws and bolts.
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Old 01-19-2010, 11:29 PM   #9
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Old 01-20-2010, 09:59 AM   #10
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Yea, I had my Camaro at my friends shop last summer and some eagle eye was checking the car out and said my rears were bigger than the front, lol
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Old 01-20-2010, 11:32 AM   #11
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What really blows is the rear rotors are larger than the fronts, why the hell is that?
Fronts: 355.4mm OD, 31.9mm thick (30.0mm min. thickness)

Rears: 365.0mm OD, 28.0mm thick (26.0mm min. thickness)

The rears are larger in OD due to the larger than normal parking brake drum (and the fact the CTS-V rotors were used as is!). It is definitely heavier than it needs to be. The fronts are a bit thicker as they run hotter.

Of course, the rear caliper piston area is a lot less to balance the larger effective radius. There are many vehicles using this sort of setup, but most are trucks and SUV's.

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Old 01-20-2010, 01:21 PM   #12
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Here are some photos for everyone. Taking my time seating the HPS pads so the rotors still need to wear in and get the plating off the surface area but so far these are great. I do wish they were larger, much larger up front.
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Old 01-20-2010, 01:40 PM   #13
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Looks good!!!!
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Here are some photos for everyone. Taking my time seating the HPS pads so the rotors still need to wear in and get the plating off the surface area but so far these are great. I do wish they were larger, much larger up front.
You have your rotors on backwards. They should have been stamped L or R
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Old 01-20-2010, 02:37 PM   #15
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Nice 55...Car looks sick with the brake set up and those awesome 4.5" SOLO PERFORMANCE tips!

How much were the rotors??
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You have your rotors on backwards. They should have been stamped L or R
uh oh.................
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You have your rotors on backwards. They should have been stamped L or R
No they are on the right way. Check Brembo, Stillen, and Racing Brake. They all say that the outer most end of the slot should enter the brake pad first.
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They look great! Yup, they look correct - they were written on:
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uh oh.................
No worries. Those are pillar vane rotors, which means the internal venting is unidirectional. The shop has guidelines they adhere to for the L/R designation in general, but these can run either way with no difference. Our experience has shown that slot direction is immaterial.

Now with curved-vane vented rotors (like many Corvettes), it does matter. We choose to slot across the vanes for better strength, so the slots are like what the above picture here shows. It is important to run curved-vane rotors in the correct direction so they pump the air from the center of the rotor outward.

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Well mine had no L or Right designation but after installing lots big brake kits my eyes drew a blank and I figured it out.

Thanks the car does look sweet.

These rotors were cheaper than the Brembos so for anyone interested get a set.

The braking performance is awesome. Car stops better than other cars I owned with factory Brembo kits, E63 AMG, Jaguar XKR etc. For anyone to spend 7k on a big brake kit has rocks in their head unless they are doing a show car and want the look. I am hard as heck on my cars and my Camaro has ZERO fade. The pistons are a decent size for the OEM calipers so I doubt I will do aything else unless a vendor wants to gives me a bigger kit to try out for kicks.

Xmicro Paul when the weather gets better we will all get together and you cant take my SS for a spin. You will be blown away at the way it drives now.
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Cool can't wait for the weather to clear so I can do mine. Hopefully Saturday!
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No worries. Those are pillar vane rotors, which means the internal venting is unidirectional. The shop has guidelines they adhere to for the L/R designation in general, but these can run either way with no difference. Our experience has shown that slot direction is immaterial.

Now with curved-vane vented rotors (like many Corvettes), it does matter. We choose to slot across the vanes for better strength, so the slots are like what the above picture here shows. It is important to run curved-vane rotors in the correct direction so they pump the air from the center of the rotor outward.

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I called Stillen and they actually told me I was one of the first customers to correctly install the rotors.....and they are left and right.....

It's your car.......so as long as you are happy.....so are we.
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I called Stillen and they actually told me I was one of the first customers to correctly install the rotors.....and they are left and right.....

It's your car.......so as long as you are happy.....so are we.
Just for the record, the next batch will not be marked. Install in the direction you wish.

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Xmicro Paul when the weather gets better we will all get together and you cant take my SS for a spin. You will be blown away at the way it drives now.
Sounds Great, I cannot wait for warmer weather!
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I think I might raise my car up a little in the rear. I love the stance of your car.
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