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Old 03-07-2010, 12:12 PM   #76
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Didn't realize until after I posted, but spunk has an SS.....wrong thread!
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:15 PM   #77
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:29 PM   #78
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This is probably a stupid question but why cant you put the 16483 (Part number) v8 exhaust on the v6????


And what does the thing in the middle do? Is it necessary? ^^^^^^^^^
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:36 PM   #79
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the thing in the middle is a resonated x pipe. It replaces the factory H pipe and resonators in one smaller package!

It would fit, albeit it's probably slightly bigger tubing, I could be wrong. Again, as far as fit goes, it would work.
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:42 PM   #80
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This is probably a stupid question but why cant you put the 16483 (Part number) v8 exhaust on the v6????


And what does the thing in the middle do? Is it necessary? ^^^^^^^^^
Can I ask why you would want to? I don't think adding a V8 designed aftermarket exhaust on a V6 car is going to get you any closer to V8 sound than a properly tuned V6 designed exhaust.

Is it cheaper or something??
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do just merely wondering if you could and because the v8 system is done with 3in tubing?

And with that v6 exhaust could you cut out the resonated x pipe to get a more raspier sound? Cause in theory you dont need it right?
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well I installed magna flow cat back yesterday with K & N filter replacement. I noticed more power, more response, no rasp, better fuel economy, and the sound is the same as the shown on the magna flow video.

I liked those huge tips !!
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:14 PM   #83
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i bought the street series also, wish I would have went with the comp though. . . street isn't much louder at all vs. stock.
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The resonated x-pipe will definately quiet it down...go with just the regular x-pipe if you want it to be a bit louder.

x-lethal, the V8 is stock 2.5" tubing
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:51 PM   #85
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well I installed magna flow cat back yesterday with K & N filter replacement. I noticed more power, more response, no rasp, better fuel economy, and the sound is the same as the shown on the magna flow video.

I liked those huge tips !!
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:52 AM   #86
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The resonated x-pipe will definately quiet it down...go with just the regular x-pipe if you want it to be a bit louder.

x-lethal, the V8 is stock 2.5" tubing
The resonator is there to remove the rasp, it gives the deep tone along with the Axel back.

I looked down my Camaro and saw the stock X pipe with no resonator. Yet tone is low.
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:54 AM   #87
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i bought the street series also, wish I would have went with the comp though. . . street isn't much louder at all vs. stock.
No comp. series for V6. Its only for V8.

Yeah street is not loud but sounds racier.
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:59 AM   #88
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I will see what I can do.
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The resonator is there to remove the rasp, it gives the deep tone along with the Axel back.

I looked down my Camaro and saw the stock X pipe with no resonator. Yet tone is low.
So you have the Magnaflow cat-back installed right? You say you looked under your car at the system and saw the stock X-pipe? Do you mean the Magnaflow Tru-X pipe was installed (looks like an X), or was the actual resonated x-pipe (looks like a muffler from outside) installed?

Thanks...and yeah vids/pics would be awsome.
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:46 AM   #90
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So you have the Magnaflow cat-back installed right? You say you looked under your car at the system and saw the stock X-pipe? Do you mean the Magnaflow Tru-X pipe was installed (looks like an X), or was the actual resonated x-pipe (looks like a muffler from outside) installed?

Thanks...and yeah vids/pics would be awsome.
Yes I have the Magna Flow cat back, but I was referring to the stock exhaust.

I removed the enitre exhaust and couldnt find a resonator!!

It has a Tru X pipe welded in the middle. Even my dealer has critisized this ugly setup . It seems that GM was relaying on those huge cans to delete the rasp rather than having a resonater in the middle.

Magna flow setup, is resonated Tru X pipe. I think that this issue was discussed in detail in the Magna Flow exhaust thread.

From my side. Magna Flow rocks, the tips are wide and long, mufflers and resonator are shiny steel with Magna Flow Sign on them.

Sound and Performance is outstanding. You will have a Camaro with GT sound.

It vooomms all the time, but I really like it when the gear shifts .

Magna flow video on the magna flow. com is a good example. Others may mislead you. We only use cellphone camras and sound is really poor. It will get you confused.

Dont take Mustangs as a benchmark for your tone, you can never reach it with V6.
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Stock exhaust has an h-pipe just after the 4 cats. Not long after that are two bullet style resonators, then the ugly cans at the end.

Cyber, you're saying your factory exhaust had an x-pipe and no resonators?
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Old 03-12-2010, 09:01 PM   #92
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Will the GFX kit's diffuser get in the way of this installation? And anyone know how much an average shop might charge to install the system?
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Stock exhaust has an h-pipe just after the 4 cats. Not long after that are two bullet style resonators, then the ugly cans at the end.

Cyber, you're saying your factory exhaust had an x-pipe and no resonators?
Well mine came in one long welded piece. Two long pipes welded in the middle. Couldnt really figure out whether the joint in the middle was a Tru X or as you mentioned an H?

I didnt open it. In all cases, it was ugly !!

But anyway there was no resonator box as the case with Magna Flow, and I'm facing a problem with the resonator touching the protective steel bars facing it.

Do you think that the pipe is resonated without a case?
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Well mine came in one long welded piece. Two long pipes welded in the middle. Couldnt really figure out whether the joint in the middle was a Tru X or as you mentioned an H?

I didnt open it. In all cases, it was ugly !!

But anyway there was no resonator box as the case with Magna Flow, and I'm facing a problem with the resonator touching the protective steel bars facing it.

Do you think that the pipe is resonated without a case?

Joint in the middle, a tube that runs perpendicular to the exhaust and connects them, is the h-pipe. An x-pipe is shaped just like an x, even if it's inside a case.


There are two bullet shape resonators just behind the brace, after the h-pipe. All the v6 cars, and the LS3 exhausts, look this way.


I'm not sure how the Magnaflow is constructed..
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Joint in the middle, a tube that runs perpendicular to the exhaust and connects them, is the h-pipe. An x-pipe is shaped just like an x, even if it's inside a case.


There are two bullet shape resonators just behind the brace, after the h-pipe. All the v6 cars, and the LS3 exhausts, look this way.


I'm not sure how the Magnaflow is constructed..
You seem to describe the stock exhaust very well, I only seen it for couple of minutes in the Garage.

They look like 2 beer cans , never imagined that they could be defined as a resonators.

Well done GM, a resonater in the size of a beer can

Magna Flow has an X pipe in a case (resonator) which according to them provides the deep tone.

I think that scriming has shown a detailed image of that, in some other thread on Magna Flow: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28427.

OOOOPPSS it seems that someone has crossed his image. May be it was X rated !!
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You seem to describe the stock exhaust very well, I only seen it for couple of minutes in the Garage.

They look like 2 beer cans , never imagined that they could be defined as a resonators.

Well done GM, a resonater in the size of a beer can

Magna Flow has an X pipe in a case (resonator) which according to them provides the deep tone.

I think that scriming has shown a detailed image of that, in some other thread on Magna Flow: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28427.

OOOOPPSS it seems that someone has crossed his image. May be it was X rated !!


Lmao, my car has been on a lift or three, lol. Beer cans,eh? They are a little bigger then that, but yep, those are the resonators!

If the can around the x-pipe holds the fiberglass, then the x-pipe inside is perforated. Could be, makes sense!

X-rated x-pipe!! Who would've thunk it??
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Wonder if that would help my raspiness? Man oh man, lol.
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Mrray13....I'm thinking a one those would probably help you greatly...but if you wanted to go all out, I'd recommend adding magnaflow mufflers.

But maybe their tone isn't for you? If not...try the flowmaster delta 40s like member KGA has...they seem to be the least raspy FMs Ive heard and they should sound similar to your setup before the longtubes.
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Thanx !!

That is the X rated photo deleted from the thread. You should find a good lawyer now.

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