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Old 08-22-2008, 02:59 PM   #101
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if i'm not mistaken...to all you "i hate the ss bumper" people, GM posted on their website about A. different front bumpers available. and B. different grilles available. ..
Do you have the link? I don't remember seeing this on any of the sites.
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Old 08-22-2008, 03:05 PM   #102
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I agree completely, GM has said "priced competitively" and I have to think comparitively as well. A solid axle 300hp Mustang GT = 425hp IRS RS/SS Camaro? From Ford.com website the Mustang prices are as follows; Attachment 7009

Base V6 -----------------------$19,735.00 210hp
V6 Premium ------------------ $21,735.00 210hp
V6 Pony Pk --------------------$22,485.00 210hp
GT------------------------------$26,425.00 300hp
Gt Plus-------------------------$28,375.00 300hp
Shelby GT500 -----------------$42,685.00 500hp
Shelby GT500KR --------------$79,995.00 540hp est.

You decide what you think is realistic, I truly hope and pray that the RS/SS comes in at 29K. I believe, IMHO, it will probably come in somewhere between the GT Plus and the GT500 and closer to the GT500 for the RS/SS. Your definitely getting more than the GT Plus in the SS but you may be getting slightly less than the GT500 with the RS/SS. I say less only from a hp stand point, overall the Camaro brings much more to the table.

I sure hope that if this logic is correct that the Z28 isn't priced competitively with the GT500KR
Also, Dodge had the following information about the Challenger on its website:

SE MSRP: $21,995
R/T MSRP: $29,995
SRT8 MSRP: $41,695

In short, the base SS has to come in right at about $30k to compete with the Mustang GT and the Challenger R/T. Sweet action.
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Old 08-22-2008, 03:23 PM   #103
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cool hopefully edmunds is right then either way i highlly doubt the ss will come in at more than 32-33k. I love how its in the same class as the gt but has roughly 125hp more? awesome...
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Old 08-22-2008, 03:29 PM   #104
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Lets update this.....

Mustang Base V6 ------------------------$19,735.00 210hp
Mustang V6 Premium ---------------------$21,735.00 210hp
Challenger SE ----------------------------$21,995.00 XXXhp
Mustang V6 Pony Pk ----------------------$22,485.00 210hp
Mustang GT-------------------------------$26,425.00 300hp
Mustang Gt Plus---------------------------$28,375.00 300hp
Challenger R/T ----------------------------$29,995.00 370HP
Challenger SRT ----------------------------$41,695.00 425HP
Mustang Shelby GT500 -----------------$42,685.00 500hp
Mustang Shelby GT500KR --------------$79,995.00 540hp est.

Personally, if the SS starts at 29995.00 then just like the challenger its out of my price range of 30k with no options (ss + ttl). The base ss NEEDS to be at the gt premium price or thats no sale for me, regardless of content. That means I'm looking for a used vette.. where as a GT is WELL within my price range, but not gonna happen unless vetts suddenly gain value which is not likely.

Bottom line is the customer needs to be able to walk out the door with base ss + ttl under 30k and that wont happen if its only $5 shy...
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Old 08-22-2008, 04:56 PM   #105
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If that pricing is true, then that's it. I'm sold, GM's built a champion.
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Old 08-22-2008, 06:39 PM   #106
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$29,995 would surely be the "base price" for a V8 model. That would be a stripped model with NOTHING added. With the option "packages" that most people want, the price will be several thousands more- guaranteed.

I still don't see the big stink about the front bumper on the SS. The little lip across the bottom, is that what people are talking about? It's such a small detail. People want to change the entire front end because of that? It's no big deal!

And I'm glad the halo lights are optional. I don't like the looks of those at all. The car looks much meaner with the standard headlights. Halos just look too gimmicky to me.
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Old 08-22-2008, 07:00 PM   #107
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That is the best looking Camaro I have ever seen. Love the front end design. I'll have mine in black with white stripes.
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Old 08-22-2008, 08:17 PM   #108
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anyone recall what a 2002 SS cost, waaaaaaay back when?
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Old 08-22-2008, 08:53 PM   #109
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$29,995 would surely be the "base price" for a V8 model. That would be a stripped model with NOTHING added. With the option "packages" that most people want, the price will be several thousands more- guaranteed.

I still don't see the big stink about the front bumper on the SS. The little lip across the bottom, is that what people are talking about? It's such a small detail. People want to change the entire front end because of that? It's no big deal!

And I'm glad the halo lights are optional. I don't like the looks of those at all. The car looks much meaner with the standard headlights. Halos just look too gimmicky to me.
its not the little lip on the bottom...the grille and mouth is wider and bigger and looks less symmetrical than the concept. its not a deal breaker but some of us find the v6 bumper more appealing and more true to the concept
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Old 08-22-2008, 08:57 PM   #110
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Question which comes under 30k the l99 or the ls3

and sup everyone been a while
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Old 08-22-2008, 09:01 PM   #111
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$29,995 would surely be the "base price" for a V8 model. That would be a stripped model with NOTHING added.
Which is perfectly fine with me, considering the "bare bones" SS has all the features of the LT along with 20-inch rims. Not a bad deal at all, considering all the stuff you get for the same price of the R/T.
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Old 08-22-2008, 09:20 PM   #112
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Did anyone notice the "Ground Effects" on the rocker panel??? It gives the Camaro a 'lower' look without actually decreasing ground clearance or looking like it was glued on at the dealerships(like the 4th Gen "RS" package)...



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anyone recall what a 2002 SS cost, waaaaaaay back when?
I believe my 1998 Z28 w/ leather, 6-speed, t-tops, Monsoon, cruise came in around $24K. But I bought the car used in 2004 and I found the window sticker behind the glove box, and I don't remember if that was 'base' Z28 price or out the door price...

I think fully-loaded SS's were going for around $31K near 2002...And the 35th Anniversary's were going quite a bit more (badass looking car!).
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Old 08-22-2008, 09:56 PM   #113
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Personally, if the SS starts at 29995.00 then just like the challenger its out of my price range of 30k with no options (ss + ttl). The base ss NEEDS to be at the gt premium price or thats no sale for me, regardless of content. That means I'm looking for a used vette.. where as a GT is WELL within my price range, but not gonna happen unless vetts suddenly gain value which is not likely.
Dude seriously if you a fretting over a couple grand, you cannot afford this car. You're going to pay more in car insurance to insure that Corvette than the couple grand more (allegedly) than a premium trimed Mustang GT or optioned out Challenger R/T. My advice.... start saving for a nice down payment then you'll have nothing to worry about. Plus typically you can get better interest rates on new cars than used.
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:14 PM   #114
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Dude seriously if you a fretting over a couple grand, you cannot afford this car. You're going to pay more in car insurance to insure that Corvette than the couple grand more (allegedly) than a premium trimed Mustang GT or optioned out Challenger R/T. My advice.... start saving for a nice down payment then you'll have nothing to worry about. Plus typically you can get better interest rates on new cars than used.
A couple grand should mean a couple months of savings. No big deal if you want the car.
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:17 PM   #115
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:22 PM   #116
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Question which comes under 30k the l99 or the ls3

and sup everyone been a while
Usually autos are about an $800 option on models where they're optional, but then again Chrysler is making the manual the extra cost option, so who knows at this point? Assuming AFM adds cost, my guess is GM will go the traditional route and charge extra for auto/L99 equipped models.
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:37 AM   #117
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every time i see a new picture of the SS bumper, it strengthens my love for it, and this is no exception! it looks so mean and muscular i think. oh and i definately decided on a color. cant wait to get my silver SS with the black stripes!
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:47 AM   #118
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ok, i hate to be skeptical. but is this price of under 30k true?
i just want to hear it from one of the Moderators or big time Sr. members here. i dont want to get my hopes up, just to have them brought down.
Um. Car and driver said that Chevy quoted the base price to be around 25,000. It's in their Sept 08 Edition.
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:52 AM   #119
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Um. Car and driver said that Chevy quoted the base price to be around 25,000. It's in their Sept 08 Edition.
speculated the price to be. . .chevy hasn't come out with the answer yet. . .Dec young padawan. . .
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:57 AM   #120
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Old 08-23-2008, 09:43 AM   #121
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This car is very good looking. I personally have no problem witht he lower grill. But like someone else said, you can always change it out. These grills are just held on by black plastic clips. (Those pin things)
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Nice under 30k rocks yeah that would be AWSOME!!!! and nice to have Fergie next to the SS. What a great pair.....
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Old 08-23-2008, 01:57 PM   #125
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its not the little lip on the bottom...the grille and mouth is wider and bigger and looks less symmetrical than the concept. its not a deal breaker but some of us find the v6 bumper more appealing and more true to the concept
I only see the lower grill opening just lightly different. The way some people are fussing, it's like an entirely new front end. I'm very detailed and particular about my car, but damn, this just isn't that much to get all bent out of shape about.

If I could afford the V8, I'd gladly have that front end on my car. But with NO halo headlights.
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