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Old 08-26-2008, 07:55 AM   #176
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Thanks Jim and I believe I said top dog for 2002 which I believe was the Z28 And you are right about depreciation, I think it is 15% just by driving it off the dealers lot.
There was no 2002 SS?
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Where is the rest of this pic set? Fergie bending over the hood. Fergie on the back. Fergie on the bumper etc..??
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:05 PM   #178
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Thanks Jim and I believe I said top dog for 2002 which I believe was the Z28 And you are right about depreciation, I think it is 15% just by driving it off the dealers lot.
I'm pretty sure the SS was top dog in 2002.

SS Performance/Handling pkg.= 325hp
Z28= 305hp
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:09 AM   #179
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Old 08-27-2008, 07:15 AM   #180
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Old 08-27-2008, 07:50 AM   #181
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I'm pretty sure the SS was top dog in 2002.

SS Performance/Handling pkg.= 325hp
Z28= 305hp

See there you go, that whole Top Dawg thing again. Thanks for pointing this out as I assumed (which I shouldn't have) that the Z28 was Camaro King. So the SS was obviously more money than the Z28 in 2002?
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Old 08-27-2008, 08:04 AM   #182
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Wait, I found this article .... "For 2002 the Chevrolet Camaro Z28's price has went up quite substantially, especially equipped with the 'SS' (super sport) package. My test car with the preferred equipment package had a sticker price of almost $30,000 dollars! This is still a good value, but is not going to attract more customers into the showrooms. Reliability has been very good with both the base models and the Z28/SS Camaro's. I have heard of people with 100,000 miles already on their 1998 models, and have had hardly had any problems. If anything does go wrong with your 2002 Z28, Chevy backs it up with a 'average' 3 year 36,000 mile bumper-bumper warranty, I believe an extended warranty can be purchased at an extra cost."

I'm confused, so this was a Z28 with a Super Sport (SS) package or is the person who wrote this just retarded?
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Old 08-27-2008, 08:19 AM   #183
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I'm confused, so this was a Z28 with a Super Sport (SS) package or is the person who wrote this just retarded?
Most, if not all, Camaro SS started out life as a Z28. The Super Sport moniker came as a package...appearance, induction (ram-air hood), handling (was handling increased?), increased breathing (freer flowing exhaust). Some of the SS were made by SLP (Street Legal Performance) and others where made by the factory. With the new Camaro, the story will be significantly different. Since the L99 and LS3 will be the SS...if a Z28 comes along later...it most likely won't just be a package that's added on.

But to answer your question...no, the person wasn't retarded, they were, in fact, very well informed. Many people call their Camaro SS Camaro Z28/SS...in fact, in the '96 - 97 SS, the moniker on the name plate inside...behind the shifter (I believe), it says Z28/SS. (Anyone: feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)
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Old 08-27-2008, 08:48 AM   #184
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Most, if not all, Camaro SS started out life as a Z28. The Super Sport moniker came as a package...appearance, induction (ram-air hood), handling (was handling increased?), increased breathing (freer flowing exhaust). Some of the SS were made by SLP (Street Legal Performance) and others where made by the factory. With the new Camaro, the story will be significantly different. Since the L99 and LS3 will be the SS...if a Z28 comes along later...it most likely won't just be a package that's added on.

But to answer your question...no, the person wasn't retarded, they were, in fact, very well informed. Many people call their Camaro SS Camaro Z28/SS...in fact, in the '96 - 97 SS, the moniker on the name plate inside...behind the shifter (I believe), it says Z28/SS. (Anyone: feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)
Sorry, I've tried to follow this whole SS vs. Z28 thing in various threads on here, which is top dawg blah, blah.... So, in 2002 the top dawg Camaro was a Z28 with an SS performance package on it, is that correct? Much as the gen 5 SS with RS appearance package will, in some opinions, be the top dawg for 2009 assuming we don't see some additional performance package offered.

I apologize, I just didn't follow the 4th gen's all that closely, wasn't particularly fond of the body style, just my opinion. Owned the first year gen 3 Z28 and loved it, my first brand new car, loved the last few years of the gen 2 and help re-build several gen 1's mostly small blocks, 302 & 327.

This all goes back to my earlier post in this thread regarding the CDN price of a top dawg 2002 which the dealer was using as a comparison(worst case) for the 09 SS.
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Old 08-27-2008, 09:16 AM   #185
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Here's an old post that may help. I had a bunch of the same questions you did.
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I am so confused.....


Gen1:
RS = appearance
SS= performance
Z28 = better performance
Combinations - RS/SS, RS/Z28

Gen2:
RS = appearance
SS = straight line performer... died early in the 1970s
Z28 = performance early, appearance late
Combinations - nothing nearly as good as the RS/SS of the 1st gens


Gen3:
RS = appearance
SS = did not exist
Z28 = performance & appearance
Combinations - the IROC-Z was offered from '85-'91.. it was the "performance" car during those years, and the Z28 was just below it... in the middle of the '91 production series, the IROC disappeared and the Z28 again became the king of the Camaro lineup

Gen4:
RS = appearance only, but the '01-'02 SLP RS models did have a slight hp advantage over the previous RS 4th gens.
SS = returned in 1996 as the upgrade of the Z28... considered the most luxury and performance you can get in a 4th gen Camaro
Z28 = lighter, and sometimes faster, than the SS, the Z28 was mostly the performance upgrade from the V6 model.
Combinations - the B4C was the V8 mid range model that police used... all of the Z28's performance with none of its badging... if that Camaro next to you sounds like a V8, but doesn't have any badging, hold on to your hats, it might have been a police car in its previous (or current) life.

Thanks in advance. I'd really like to get a better understanding of this.
see above edits in bold... hope this helps out
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Here's an old post that may help. I had a bunch of the same questions you did.
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Thanks gtahvit This helps a lot!
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:54 AM   #188
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in fact, in the '96 - 97 SS, the moniker on the name plate inside...behind the shifter (I believe), it says Z28/SS. (Anyone: feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)
You are correct on that here is the inside of a 96 SS
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