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Old 01-26-2010, 08:04 PM   #1
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V6 to V8 Conversion

I've Finally reached a decision in which engine im putting in my v6 camaro. Its a Ls376/480 and I don't really know what all needs to be changed, If you know more about what I need or what changes need to be made could you guys make me a little list of what needs to be done? thx!
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Old 01-26-2010, 09:50 PM   #2
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Computer, z28 Rear End.... I think... lol. Google is your best friend sir...
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Old 01-26-2010, 11:26 PM   #4
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LMAO, hahaha. Yeah dude, sorry, but by the time you get done doing all that needs to be done, you'll have spent enough to buy 3 z28's, so yeah....if you're wantin some more power, just upgrade your suspension, tranny, and rear end a bit, slap a turbo on it and call it done.
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LMAO, hahaha. Yeah dude, sorry, but by the time you get done doing all that needs to be done, you'll have spent enough to buy 3 z28's, so yeah....if you're wantin some more power, just upgrade your suspension, tranny, and rear end a bit, slap a turbo on it and call it done.
yea, might as well mod the v6 and have fun with that, and get a v8 later. some advice to the op, unless hes troll.
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Yeah... mod it, keep it for a few years or so. Keep it real nice, sell it, buy a v8.
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Yeah... mod it, keep it for a few years or so. Keep it real nice, sell it, buy a v8.
i know im guna mod mine, not too much though. only some headers, exhaust, intake, just to make it a little more fun, and ofcourse the leather seats and new audio system and some sporty rims. not a hot rod by any means, but good enough for me right now
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If you plan on doing the swap because you want a V8, I'd suggest you find a nice used Z28. If you're doing it because you want to get dirty, have a fun project, and are willing to spend months of time and thousands of dollars on it, go for it.

That being said, your life will be a whole lot easier if you buy a complete donor car. Look for a trans am or something that has rolled. A front end collision should be okay since you plan on buying a crate engine. If it were my project, I'd buy a wrecked LS1 Fbody, rebuild the engine to MY specs, then throw that in. There is no set "list" to make for you--everyone's swap is different. Look 'dis.
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305 Pride-I already have some mods, i have CAI and i think its tuned but i cant really tell because i bought it used
brandotron- You think so? i've been told that too, my camaro actually needs front end work because i was in a accident but, do you really think i should? bc that car has lots of sentimental value to it.. it holds alot of "first's" in that car..but what do u mean rolled?
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305 Pride-I already have some mods, i have CAI and i think its tuned but i cant really tell because i bought it used
brandotron- You think so? i've been told that too, my camaro actually needs front end work because i was in a accident but, do you really think i should? bc that car has lots of sentimental value to it.. it holds alot of "first's" in that car..but what do u mean rolled?
If you have another car to daily drive, have at. I would highly recommend that you don't do an engine swap if this is your only car though. It will take forever and it most likely will not be a perfect swap at first.

However, if you do have some disposable income, you may want to think about getting the donor, stripping it, and building the engine/rebuilding the trans while you continue to daily drive your v6. EVERYTHING drivetrain related will need to be swapped - Engine, trans, rear end, computer, front suspension, etc. It's much easier to go and buy a Z28 or an SS. Prices are coming down on fourth gens.

Also, by "rolled" I mean something that's been in a rollover accident. A car that is totaled but still has a functional drivetrain.
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in addition to Brandotron's link, check out this place

http://hpsalvage.com/

you'll need full V8 suspension, engine, trans, fuel lines, heater/lines, and more.

its honestly a lot easier to just trade/buy a Z28 than do a swap in a v6 car.
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Ooh yeah if a was to get a v8(ls1) then what would i have to change if anything?
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Thx for the links guys
Brandotron-I actually think im Gonna go look and see how much it would cost to just find the v8 equipped car, but if it is a LT1 would it cost a little more to do the LS376 swap? or would it be cheaper to do the swap with a Ls1? or is it all the same?
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Thx for the links guys
Brandotron-I actually think im Gonna go look and see how much it would cost to just find the v8 equipped car, but if it is a LT1 would it cost a little more to do the LS376 swap? or would it be cheaper to do the swap with a Ls1? or is it all the same?

it would cost about the same for an LS1/LT1 swap. for the LS3, it would take more money to buy the motor than with a used LT1/LS1. other than that, the LS376 is an LS based engine and would involve the same work as an LS1 install would
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Brandotron-I actually think im Gonna go look and see how much it would cost to just find the v8 equipped car, but if it is a LT1 would it cost a little more to do the LS376 swap? or would it be cheaper to do the swap with a Ls1? or is it all the same?
If you picked up an LT1 Fbody and wanted to throw in an LSX, you'd need a Trans (LT1 T56s and 4L60Es have different bellhousings) and a computer at the very least. If you were to pick up an LS1 Fbody, it would only require a tune...if the trans and rear end didn't have a million miles on it.

If money is a factor, the LT1s are going for pretty cheap these days and there's a lot of potential in that motor. I'd say pick up a v8 Fbody and practice tearing that thing apart and putting it back together in the garage. Then you'll have a pretty good idea of what to expect with an engine swap
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Old 01-27-2010, 06:23 PM   #17
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http://www.tacreationsusa.com/3_4_3_8_v6_to_ls1.htm

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Old 01-29-2010, 06:56 PM   #19
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LMAO, hahaha. Yeah dude, sorry, but by the time you get done doing all that needs to be done, you'll have spent enough to buy 3 z28's, so yeah....if you're wantin some more power, just upgrade your suspension, tranny, and rear end a bit, slap a turbo on it and call it done.
what kind of upgrade?(suspension/trans)
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Thx fbodyrs96 thats VERY useful
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I traded mine in for a Z28, best route...they only way I'd even think about doing a swap like that is if I was gonna drop in a 402/427 or something of that nature. you'd still need PCM, shocks, springs, K-member and upgraded rearend. I'd either mod the hell out of the V6, or buy a V8
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Being a 4th gen its modular.

Drop the V6 and cradle out of the bottom, slide under a V8 n cradle.
The good junkyards will have em complete like that.

Few hr driveway swap.

And who knows what they will have pre bolted up. Could be anything.
More engine, more likley to end up wrapped around a tree.

I would also not sweat it over the rear end, it will be fine.
Its the 3rd gen V6 rears you watched out for
and they can take a good 300ish HP [few turbo mod cars pushing that much on a v6 rear]. The 4th gen v6 rear is much better.


Sell left over. 3rd gen V6 folks will want the 4th gen V6.
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Being a 4th gen its modular.

Drop the V6 and cradle out of the bottom, slide under a V8 n cradle.
The good junkyards will have em complete like that.
Wow, you are right about that . Sometimes I do forget how easy dropping the engine out of a 4th gen is hell you dont even need a lift. For those who don't know here you go http://www.keliente.com/engine.htm
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Recent 4th gen swap I seen, the guy used his 2ton engine hoist to lift the nose of the car, not the engine
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well im doing the swap and i got a 400 dollar car with the 3800 in it. im still using the v6 crossmember. i have gone with a carb style engine. and it fits. almost completed also.. imma post a couple of pix shortly
and in my total swap i dont have over 500 into it. how people say 5 grand to swap... bs haha


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