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Vash · 08-25-2008, 01:26 PM

I think it was not a bad review. It said the car would beat the other 2 competing v6 builds. As far as the price. I think 25k is gonna be with RS.

Don't forget the automatic is gonna be 1000-2000 upgrade. So a base LS with manual and the recreate 78 steel wheels could be as low as 20k.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 08-25-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vash

I think it was not a bad review. It said the car would beat the other 2 competing v6 builds. As far as the price. I think 25k is gonna be with RS.

Don't forget the automatic is gonna be 1000-2000 upgrade. So a base LS with manual and the recreate 78 steel wheels could be as low as 20k.

Not necessarily. The automatic could...I stress that word: could...be standard with the manual being a no-cost option.

With so many people opting for automatics nowadays (especially in the majority-sales car), I can see it being standard....

Vash · 08-25-2008, 02:01 PM

Well it's a TH and a 6 speed with electronic shift $$$. They are big and cost a lot more than the simple smaller manual gearboxes. GM has been charging optional for the auto for a long time. You could be right.

pinkcamaro10 · 08-25-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin2323

If you cant take a mullet joke than that might be the problem..... lol jk

no what i can't take is the misinformation.

Vash · 08-25-2008, 02:04 PM

Time to watch Joe Dirt again.

kevin2323 · 08-25-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pinkcamaro10

no what i can't take is the misinformation.

what was the misinformation I breezed through the article. Are you talking about the price? I would assume they would know what it would be around, or not lol.

*GTAHVIT* · 08-25-2008, 02:22 PM

Stay on topic please.

pinkcamaro10 · 08-25-2008, 02:24 PM

im not really sure what is off topic, we're talking about the article, it's not like we're talking about ice cream.

seattlecamaroboy · 08-25-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by radz282003

I don't think it would be asking too much to have it priced right between a base and a Mustang GT. I mean, you'll be getting close to the same acceleration, and I'm sure better handling, hands-down. That's only the performance end, as I'm sure ergonimically, it will be superior also. Now, is that a reasonable price to those in the market, maybe not. I'll have to really represent itself well, IMHO. I'm confident GM won't shoot themselves in the foot though.

Same acceleration? LOL The GT does 0 to 60 in 5.1 seconds. That's not the same acceleration. That's 1 second slower, if 6 seconds as advertised.

Vash · 08-25-2008, 02:28 PM

Sorry the Joe Dirt Comment was from the mullet reference in said article. I was one of them so I lived it.. (redneck with a 78 and doors that would not open).

Anyway it looks like another positive article. I love those 18 Alum IROC style wheels. Looks like a caliper paint kit would be a nice low cost complement to them. Also we see a picture of the Automatic shifter.. drool. Well I have a bad back (disks) so I need auto.

BowtieGuy · 08-25-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pinkcamaro10

I love how they made it sound like the Iroc was the only camaro with t-tops. lol

I hate the stereotype of mullets and stupid redneck crap with camaros. Its just dumb, they need to get over it. It is not 1980 anymore.

I'm glad someone saw it the way I did.

*radz28* · 08-25-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by seattlecamaroboy

Same acceleration? LOL The GT does 0 to 60 in 5.1 seconds. That's not the same acceleration. That's 1 second slower, if 6 seconds as advertised.

Well, if we are going to squable over semantics, I did say close, and if you've even stood next to two cars racing at the track, one second isn't too big a spread. If I remember correctly, GM also stated that they are confident they can get a couple more tenths out of the car before final numbers are released, but I digress.

EZ28 · 08-25-2008, 02:42 PM

My second post I think, but you've got to take the pricing with a grain of salt. Motor Trend is about to test drive and write a review about the same prototype V6 and said it will be in the low to mid $20K range. So who's to say what the price will be until we here it from horses (GM's) mouth.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...res/index.html

I hope to buy an SS later next year.

dayvedayve · 08-25-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vash

Time to watch Joe Dirt again.

Tisk Tisk now Joe was a Hemi fanboy

EZ28 · 08-25-2008, 02:46 PM

Read the last paragraph of the Motor Trend Thread.

"Pictured above is a shot of the V-6 Camaro with its two bogies -- the Dodge Challenger SRT8 and Ford Mustang GT, along with shots of the V-8-powered RS model below."

That's got to be a miss print. The shots look like the RS V6. Will the RS/SS be missing the mail slot?

*radz28* · 08-25-2008, 02:49 PM

I think the RS/SS will have the mail slot, and that you're right in noticing their error.

EZ28 · 08-25-2008, 02:50 PM

Very cool. I knew it had to be a miss print.

kevin2323 · 08-25-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dayvedayve

Tisk Tisk now Joe was a Hemi fanboy

hehe....

Lucas718 · 08-25-2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pinkcamaro10

I love how they made it sound like the Iroc was the only camaro with t-tops. lol

I hate the stereotype of mullets and stupid redneck crap with camaros. Its just dumb, they need to get over it. It is not 1980 anymore.

I was thinking the same thing when I read that article. I'm getting a little tired of nearly every article portraying Camaro owners as mullet-headed rednecks. That stereotype just doesn't fit anymore.

Vash · 08-25-2008, 03:12 PM

lol yea I guess it's not the best comparison. But it's more of a generational thing. I think if it as a good thing (Camaro lore).

scorpio · 08-25-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Car and Driver

Around the 10Best loop, the Camaro showed remarkable poise, with the suspension handling the pockmarked roads with hardly any disturbance to the cabin.

This concerns me a little.

I have a difficult time believing that a suspension setup can be performance oriented and provide good feedback to the driver and at the same time handle a 'pockmarked' road with 'hardly any disturbance'.

Don't get me wrong, the Camaro is no all-out sports car, I am not looking for a super-stiff suspension, but even a 'compromise' setup like the stock sport suspension on a BMW 3 series or Z-4 (non-M) will give you feedback about imperfections in the road in a way that I would not describe as 'hardly any disturbance'.

BowtieGuy · 08-25-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by scorpio

This concerns me a little.

I have a difficult time believing that a suspension setup can be performance oriented and provide good feedback to the driver and at the same time handle a 'pockmarked' road with 'hardly any disturbance'.

Don't get me wrong, the Camaro is no all-out sports car, I am not looking for a super-stiff suspension, but even a 'compromise' setup like the stock sport suspension on a BMW 3 series or Z-4 (non-M) will give you feedback about imperfections in the road in a way that I would not describe as 'hardly any disturbance'.

It's Car and Driver man, they don't know what they're talking about. They probably couldn't give you the definition of "road feel". Or, they meant they felt it though the steering wheel and pedals (responsiveness) but not in the seat (cabin disturbance).

*GTAHVIT* · 08-25-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scorpio

This concerns me a little.

I have a difficult time believing that a suspension setup can be performance oriented and provide good feedback to the driver and at the same time handle a 'pockmarked' road with 'hardly any disturbance'.

Don't get me wrong, the Camaro is no all-out sports car, I am not looking for a super-stiff suspension, but even a 'compromise' setup like the stock sport suspension on a BMW 3 series or Z-4 (non-M) will give you feedback about imperfections in the road in a way that I would not describe as 'hardly any disturbance'.

I undersand your concern. But, their description of the road is up for grabs. Who knows what they mean by pockmarked. It might be as bad a pot holes or just cracks in the pavement. I think all of this is still real subjective. To even talk about suspesion feel is subjective, It's like trying to find one color for everyone. We all want something different in a suspension setup.

MrGazinya · 08-25-2008, 03:40 PM

Automobilemag.com did a review to. alot better than caranddriver in my opinion.

GameOver620 · 08-25-2008, 08:20 PM

this probably isn't that important because i plan on purchasing an ss/rs anyway. but i wonder how many people can fit into the back seat comfortably? i'm 6'1'' so i drive with my seat all the way back.

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08-25-2008, 01:26 PM	#26
Vash Drives: 00 Blazer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,128	I think it was not a bad review. It said the car would beat the other 2 competing v6 builds. As far as the price. I think 25k is gonna be with RS. Don't forget the automatic is gonna be 1000-2000 upgrade. So a base LS with manual and the recreate 78 steel wheels could be as low as 20k.

08-25-2008, 02:01 PM	#28
Vash Drives: 00 Blazer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,128	Well it's a TH and a 6 speed with electronic shift $$$. They are big and cost a lot more than the simple smaller manual gearboxes. GM has been charging optional for the auto for a long time. You could be right.

08-25-2008, 02:04 PM	#30
Vash Drives: 00 Blazer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,128	Time to watch Joe Dirt again.

08-25-2008, 02:28 PM	#35
Vash Drives: 00 Blazer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,128	Sorry the Joe Dirt Comment was from the mullet reference in said article. I was one of them so I lived it.. (redneck with a 78 and doors that would not open). Anyway it looks like another positive article. I love those 18 Alum IROC style wheels. Looks like a caliper paint kit would be a nice low cost complement to them. Also we see a picture of the Automatic shifter.. drool. Well I have a bad back (disks) so I need auto.

08-25-2008, 02:42 PM	#38
EZ28 Drives: Hopefully a Camaro soon! ;-) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas! Posts: 67 View My Garage	My second post I think, but you've got to take the pricing with a grain of salt. Motor Trend is about to test drive and write a review about the same prototype V6 and said it will be in the low to mid $20K range. So who's to say what the price will be until we here it from horses (GM's) mouth. http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...res/index.html I hope to buy an SS later next year.

08-25-2008, 02:46 PM	#40
EZ28 Drives: Hopefully a Camaro soon! ;-) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas! Posts: 67 View My Garage	Read the last paragraph of the Motor Trend Thread. "Pictured above is a shot of the V-6 Camaro with its two bogies -- the Dodge Challenger SRT8 and Ford Mustang GT, along with shots of the V-8-powered RS model below." That's got to be a miss print. The shots look like the RS V6. Will the RS/SS be missing the mail slot?

08-25-2008, 02:50 PM	#42
EZ28 Drives: Hopefully a Camaro soon! ;-) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas! Posts: 67 View My Garage	Very cool. I knew it had to be a miss print.

08-25-2008, 03:12 PM	#45
Vash Drives: 00 Blazer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,128	lol yea I guess it's not the best comparison. But it's more of a generational thing. I think if it as a good thing (Camaro lore).

08-25-2008, 08:20 PM	#50
GameOver620 Drives: 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rockland County, NY Posts: 179	this probably isn't that important because i plan on purchasing an ss/rs anyway. but i wonder how many people can fit into the back seat comfortably? i'm 6'1'' so i drive with my seat all the way back.