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Old 08-25-2008, 07:17 PM   #176
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No deal breaker ... yet.

If it looked more like I was drawn to originally in the concept, it would be easy to sign off and order that car sight unseen in real life. No worries. As for now, I can go over my build list with the dealer to see costs. However, order or money transactions can't take place until I physically see and touch one from one of the 12 folks in front of me on the list.
yeh bro i was just like you...concept was just pure godliness...but the people who made the car only made changes because of regulations and tried as much as they could to keep it looking exactly like the concept...unfortunately government regulations are a part of the car building process and the only way to change that would be to make the car a higher priced car where i believe there is less regulations but that would go against what the camaro is all about
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Old 08-25-2008, 07:18 PM   #177
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Great shots,espeacially that nose to nose with the other heavy hitter, tight shots guys!
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Old 08-25-2008, 07:21 PM   #178
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what color is this car and will it be available as an option??? since the concept convertible orange is not an option i want this one
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:01 PM   #179
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ChevyDude, it's good to have you on the other side of this conversation. You really are very skeptical, and that makes your arguments that much stronger.
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:28 PM   #180
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Looks great to me... Might need a tad larger wheel combined with lower profile tires. I wonder if there's gonna be a "bigger" factory spoiler option? Something with just a little more flare to it. That's all it's missing IMO.
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:29 PM   #181
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Now that looks right on snazzy. Can't wait to see it in actual color-colors, though. Easier to photoshop.
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:37 PM   #182
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This better?
Am I picky? Of course! There are a lot of cars to choose from at this price level. Sure it may be a lighting issue. Or, an angle of the drawing vs. the photo.

As my user name implies, I am not a die hard Camaro owner. However, I am one who was inspired by what Chevrolet appeared to be coming out with. As such, my money can wait on the table or better yet in my pocket. No offense to anyone here that truly loves the new car, but as I said in my first post of concern I will need to see it in person to see if it lives up to what it could have been.
A couple of things... you are actually comparing an artist's rendition against an actual photo. Again, at the risk of repeating myself... check out this picture from the salesperson reference guide (I included it below so there is no confusion here). Now look at the picture of the two camaro's facing each other on the bottom there. One is the production LT/RS and the other is the concept. Look real close at the two. They are about as close to each other as you can get when making the transition from a anything goes concept to a street legal production vehicle that you can own. Where do you see all of these differences about the hood being longer, the curves of the sheet metal being so dramatically different? Don't compare two different photo's and think they are equal. The only real way to compare them is in a photo like this where they are actually side by side or in person. Any other way your perception will be distorted because the pictures are not taken at the same angle, with the same lens, with the same lighting, the same distance from the camera, all of which play a significant role on how the subject of the picture appears in the image.

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Old 08-25-2008, 08:40 PM   #183
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Worth $40K ... Not so sure
I just love how you:

1. Estimate an SS to be 40k when Scott has REPEATEDLY stated they (GM) would be insane to price it in that price bracket, and the actual price range will be very close to a Mustang GT (high 20s to low 30s).

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2. Make your mind up about the value of ANY car before you actually see it in person, sit in it, touch it, feel it, and most importantly, DRIVE IT!.

I thought Scott already waved his magic wand and made everyone who cried about a 40k sticker or made their mind up about the car before even actually seeing it in person dissappear
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:41 PM   #184
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I just love how you:

1. Estimate an SS to be 40k when Scott has REPEATEDLY stated they (GM) would be insane to price it in that price bracket, and the actual price range will be very close to a Mustang GT (high 20s to low 30s).

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2. Make your mind up about the value of ANY car before you actually see it in person, sit in it, touch it, feel it, and most importantly, DRIVE IT!.

I thought Scott already waved his magic wand and made everyone who cried about a 40k sticker or made their mind up about the car before even actually seeing it in person dissappear
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:45 PM   #185
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I thought Scott already waved his magic wand and made everyone who cried about a 40k sticker or made their mind up about the car before even actually seeing it in person dissappear
Nah... I think Scott waving his magic wand went something like
*poof* and another mustang bites the dust...
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:48 PM   #186
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Who -- the Camaro or the driver?????

Haha! Sorry Mr. Settlemire, I meant the Camaro.
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:49 PM   #187
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Unfortunately, when dealers first get there greedy wittle hands on the 1st Camaros, there MIGHT be a dealer mark up, so 40 g's might be a reality at least for the first year, unfortunately, :(
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:01 PM   #188
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HOTT diggity-damn that's a nice car!!!!!!
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:03 PM   #189
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I'm on my meal break, so I haven't taken the time to read any of the posts, but man, does that car look good!! Silver is definitely a good PR color for the Camaro for Chevy (even though I'm still getting Imperial Blue). And I don't know if they changed it much or something, but to anyone who says the SS bumper doesn't look good, these pics just HAVE to change your mind...

Bravo, Chevrolet!!!!
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:14 PM   #190
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[QUOTE=Optimus Prime;119115 And I don't know if they changed it much or something, but to anyone who says the SS bumper doesn't look good, these pics just HAVE to change your mind...
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I was one who preferred the V6 fascia, but I've got to admit that these photos have changed my mine. Now, if there was just some way to delete the goofy looking shark fin antenna I'd be happy.

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Old 08-25-2008, 09:14 PM   #191
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Sexy car!!!!!!!!!!! Scott can I have oneeeeee !!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:21 PM   #192
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front bumper...and again if your buying the ss your buying it for the engine...and if you want this car to succeed you don't want the v6 to look like the gimped version...since thats the breadwinner of the camaro sales...

the v6 camaro craps all over both the v6 and v8 mustang...

why would you complain about the v6 looking just as good as the v8??? that gives the whole brand a better image
I don't know what you're talking about. I never criticized it. I hope they do look alike, except for badges. I was merely saying i don't see any difference, so i hope they didn't spend much money on differences to the front end.
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:22 PM   #193
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:24 PM   #194
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Silver just makes the lines of the car stand out, for me there has been no other color choice except silver...(my username, my car in my avatar) I do like Black but Black is not a color, it is a commitment
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:25 PM   #195
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the car look grate more than grate looks down right wonderful but I don't like the car with out the halo's
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:30 PM   #196
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To those who think the production SS looks too different from the concept, and I know it's already been said by Scott and many others, but regulations required several changes. Personally, I think the Camaro team did an AMAZING job considering what had to be done to make it street legal.

On top of that, I don't know who here has actually sat in, much less driven, the concept, but I'm sure in all of their testing and designing, the Camaro team made some changes simply for day-to-day driving reasons. I personally have never seen the concept in person, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a pain to drive as a daily driver (blind spots and what not). I'm sure Scott could comment, if he hasn't already. Regardless, everyone here has to be able to at least admit that this Camaro is quite possibly the closest any company has ever come to making the production car look like the concept...
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:37 PM   #197
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To those who think the production SS looks too different from the concept, and I know it's already been said by Scott and many others, but regulations required several changes. Personally, I think the Camaro team did an AMAZING job considering what had to be done to make it street legal.

On top of that, I don't know who here has actually sat in, much less driven, the concept, but I'm sure in all of their testing and designing, the Camaro team made some changes simply for day-to-day driving reasons. I personally have never seen the concept in person, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a pain to drive as a daily driver (blind spots and what not). I'm sure Scott could comment, if he hasn't already. Regardless, everyone here has to be able to at least admit that this Camaro is quite possibly the closest any company has ever come to making the production car look like the concept...

I agree, as for the changes for day-to-day driving reasons, here is a photo from Kevin Kolvenbach photo album showing just how "easy" it is to get in and out of the concept, look how far back the drivers seat is leaning so Scott can get out.

Photo courtesy of Kevin Kolvenbach
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:41 PM   #198
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To those who think the production SS looks too different from the concept, and I know it's already been said by Scott and many others, but regulations required several changes. Personally, I think the Camaro team did an AMAZING job considering what had to be done to make it street legal.

On top of that, I don't know who here has actually sat in, much less driven, the concept, but I'm sure in all of their testing and designing, the Camaro team made some changes simply for day-to-day driving reasons. I personally have never seen the concept in person, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a pain to drive as a daily driver (blind spots and what not). I'm sure Scott could comment, if he hasn't already. Regardless, everyone here has to be able to at least admit that this Camaro is quite possibly the closest any company has ever come to making the production car look like the concept...
Agreed,

The Camaro segment from the Saving GM special on CNBC shows just how hard they tried to keep it like the Concept.

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Old 08-25-2008, 09:47 PM   #199
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awesome pics. Thanks Kevin and Chris. Now, the SS/RS...but, I can wait for Indy for that.
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:48 PM   #200
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My only complaint is that the bow tie on the front takes away the aggressiveness of the SS bumper.
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