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Old 02-02-2010, 05:41 PM   #26
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probably the main reason the mustang is gaining some ground is they have 0% financing for 60 months, that makes a huge difference in payments compared to GM with 4.99% here in canada that is, not sure what rate they have in the US.
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Old 02-02-2010, 06:16 PM   #27
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Pretty good numbers.. even with a vacation, maybe in february the sales might skyrocket or something because we are sure to get SOME ex-toyota drivers in a new camaro... maybe?
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Old 02-02-2010, 06:22 PM   #28
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Old 02-02-2010, 06:35 PM   #29
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Looks like GM is going to meet their goal of 100,000 Camaroa for the 2010 MY.
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Old 02-02-2010, 06:36 PM   #30
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Actually, if you look at the numbers month by month, the gap between Mustang sales and Camaro sales is actually closing despite the 2011 Mustang being right around the corner for Ford.

GM sold only 624 more Camaros than Ford did Mustangs in January. Compare that to the gap back in October (3293 cars).
Anybody dumb enough to buy a 2010 (non-Shelby) Mustang instead of a 2010 Camaro or waiting for the 2011 Mustang is dumb enough that their sales shouldn't be counted.

Acknowledging stupidity is the start of a slippery slope toward embracing stupidity - and ultimately encouraging it.
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Old 02-02-2010, 07:11 PM   #31
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Actually, if you look at the numbers month by month, the gap between Mustang sales and Camaro sales is actually closing despite the 2011 Mustang being right around the corner for Ford.

GM sold only 624 more Camaros than Ford did Mustangs in January. Compare that to the gap back in October (3293 cars).
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Old 02-02-2010, 07:21 PM   #32
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Anybody dumb enough to buy a 2010 (non-Shelby) Mustang instead of a 2010 Camaro or waiting for the 2011 Mustang is dumb enough that their sales shouldn't be counted.

Acknowledging stupidity is the start of a slippery slope toward embracing stupidity - and ultimately encouraging it.
You're right. But then, why buy a new car of any year model? Rarely does any make or model of car not see an improvement or refinement over the outgoing model year.

Considering only a very small percentage of all buyers even care about the performance aspects of a car, I doubt the extra horsepower the 2011 Mustang brings to the table trumps the crazy deals you can get on a 2010 Mustang right now. Just a thought.
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Old 02-02-2010, 07:57 PM   #33
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That is for sure...but someday some of them may end up on here..

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This Summer there will be ALOT of Camaro's on the road
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Old 02-02-2010, 08:12 PM   #34
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I think it's safe to say we're gonna hit 100,000 Camaro's by March 16.
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Old 02-02-2010, 08:46 PM   #35
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if the camaro had 0% financing like the mustang there wouldn't be one left on any lots.
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Old 02-02-2010, 09:02 PM   #36
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Cool Video

Ah, don't worry....they are also claiming 30mpg with the automatic v6. Classic game of one-upmanship.

GM did it with the SS LS3 (426hp) when compared to the Challenger SRT8 (425hp).

Either way, the Mustang still isn't getting an IRS. Check out how loose that backend gets in this Motor Trend video...

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Old 02-02-2010, 10:11 PM   #37
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Actually, if you look at the numbers month by month, the gap between Mustang sales and Camaro sales is actually closing despite the 2011 Mustang being right around the corner for Ford.

GM sold only 624 more Camaros than Ford did Mustangs in January. Compare that to the gap back in October (3293 cars).
They only sold 624 more Camaros in January because Oshawa was shut down the last week of Dec, and for the first week in January. Also, the current lack of supply means that most people buying a new Camaro are ordering their car vs. the 2010 Mustang buyers can walk into a showroom and drive off with it. But this argument can be settled with February's sales comparison.
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I got the ball rolling for Camaro deliveries in Feb. Took delivery of my 2SS yesterday
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I got the ball rolling for Camaro deliveries in Feb. Took delivery of my 2SS yesterday
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Old 02-03-2010, 12:33 AM   #40
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Pretty good numbers.. even with a vacation, maybe in february the sales might skyrocket or something because we are sure to get SOME ex-toyota drivers in a new camaro... maybe?
lmao im sure your right, i think toyota f'ed up big time. who knows if they'll be able to recover from this because this has def ruined the way some ppl look at their brand. maybe GM can come out on top???
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:56 AM   #41
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I bet people are getting really good deals on mustangs right now. After all, who would really want to buy a 2010 when you could get new the engine for 2011? I think that if it wasn't for the 0%, they would have a really hard time moving those.
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Old 02-03-2010, 06:15 AM   #42
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Chevy also sold the most cars out of all manufactures last month

1. Ford F-Series: 27,630
2. Chevy Silverado: 22,772
3. Honda Accord: 20,759 (1,737 Accord Crosstours included)
4. Nissan Altima: 18,636
5. Toyota Corolla: 17,121
6. Chevy Malibu: 16,439
7. Toyota Camry: 15,792
8. Honda Civic: 14,693
9. Chevy Cobalt: 12,962
10. Ford Fusion: 12,179
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Old 02-03-2010, 07:41 AM   #43
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Nevermind the pony wars, the Mustang continues on in the year 2010 and 2011 with a chassis that cannot accomodate curtain airbags. That is simply unacceptable today, and just for that reason the Camaro is a much more desireable car.

As safety consious Ford makes themselves out to be, I can't believe when the redesigned the Mustang for the new platform in 2004 (or whenever it was, I don't really remember) that they did not make accomodations for curtain airbags.
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Old 02-03-2010, 08:45 AM   #44
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lmao im sure your right, i think toyota f'ed up big time. who knows if they'll be able to recover from this because this has def ruined the way some ppl look at their brand. maybe GM can come out on top???
On a tangent - a buddy of mine went to rent a car yesterday and every rental car agency is sold out within a 100 mile radius (at least). Once the recall went through, all the rental agencies were forced to instantly yank all Toyotas from their inventory.
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Old 02-03-2010, 10:38 AM   #45
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The way the v6 2011 Mustang was sliding around in the corners in that video, I'm betting it'll be pretty popular with drifters and the type of teenage showoff who loves making noise.
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Old 02-03-2010, 05:30 PM   #46
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The boys at GM have to be pretty dang thrilled about the Camaro #s so far. When things were going to pot not all that long ago, the new Camaro became one of the most sought out cars in America. It was the lone bright spot during the darkest hours. Now that GM has made some great strides toward regaining its rightful place at the top, I feel they owe the Camaro a serious amount of devotion. I really think they will put in the effort to remain head and shoulders above the competition (Mustang and Challenger) for many years to come.
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Old 02-03-2010, 06:58 PM   #47
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The boys at GM have to be pretty dang thrilled about the Camaro #s so far. When things were going to pot not all that long ago, the new Camaro became one of the most sought out cars in America. It was the lone bright spot during the darkest hours. Now that GM has made some great strides toward regaining its rightful place at the top, I feel they owe the Camaro a serious amount of devotion. I really think they will put in the effort to remain head and shoulders above the competition (Mustang and Challenger) for many years to come.
I hope so, because with the Stangs upgraded interior and upcoming powerplants now is NOT the time for GM to sit back and rest on its pony car laurels! We need A) a track pack, B) power adders (CAI, exhaust, gears), C) more appearance mods and last but certainly not least D) THE Z/28!!!!
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I think you may see the game change in spring once the new 5.0 hits the dealers. Not to mention the Camaro will be a year old.
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The boys at GM have to be pretty dang thrilled about the Camaro #s so far. When things were going to pot not all that long ago, the new Camaro became one of the most sought out cars in America. It was the lone bright spot during the darkest hours. Now that GM has made some great strides toward regaining its rightful place at the top, I feel they owe the Camaro a serious amount of devotion. I really think they will put in the effort to remain head and shoulders above the competition (Mustang and Challenger) for many years to come.
I agree. It is not taboo at GM to talk about/work on the Camaro like it was for some time...it's a legitimate player in their plans going forward.

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I think you may see the game change in spring once the new 5.0 hits the dealers. Not to mention the Camaro will be a year old.
I dunno...The Mustang has proven for the bast three decades that engines and power have little to do with holding the sales crown. Maybe that's changed...but I would expect design and other daily-driver features to have more of an effect.

That said...and I'm not trying to be pessimistic....I don't expect Camaro to hold the crown forever. Eventually, Mustang will overtake, as it typically has. All I care about is that GM keeps the car viable and competitive in sales...not necessarily #1. fwiw...
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How many of each style; 2SS, 1SS, 2LT and 1LT?
How many were manual transmission of each style?

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