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Old 02-04-2010, 08:10 PM   #35
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:17 AM   #36
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No extra parts either. It's not like they had to buy stuff for it. Or use stuff on it. Just allign it. I don't care WHAT they say. You just don't pay 370.00 for an allignment.

Bay Chevrolet, Mobile, AL is an awesome dealership till you get around back.
thats sad. at all dealerships ive worked at its been the other way around in most cases. ive always work for a top notch fixed ops dept. i wish i was close enough to help you man. BTW sorry i re-read your post i didnt realise you didnt buy it. there morons to have the balls to ask you to pay that much more for the alignment. they were just trying to get you.

if someone calls it a "stealership" its because they have obviously gone to horrible dealerships who give us good ones a bad name. its sick. i would never cheet or steel from a customer.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:38 AM   #37
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thats sad. at all dealerships ive worked at its been the other way around in most cases. ive always work for a top notch fixed ops dept. i wish i was close enough to help you man. BTW sorry i re-read your post i didnt realise you didnt buy it. there morons to have the balls to ask you to pay that much more for the alignment. they were just trying to get you.

if someone calls it a "stealership" its because they have obviously gone to horrible dealerships who give us good ones a bad name. its sick. i would never cheet or steel from a customer.
Well, I think those guys got a bad idea of me back in June when I went in there like 6 times telling them there is something wrong with my car and they never found anything until I was able to prove (with the fuse pull) that there was. They appolagized but I have a feeling they still dont' like me because of it. And I was NEVER a dick to them, because you're right. The service department is usually the one that you can get along with.
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:25 AM   #38
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By law, dealerships are allowed to charge up to 400% markup on parts and service.....
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:31 AM   #39
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Well from what I understand it's just the camber and toe. And it shouldn't be too hard if I give them those two numbers. I told her when I dropped it off that I had them if they needed them.

So I doubley agree. They should have called me.

Oh well. I'm picking it up this evening and tomorrow morning I'll pay somone else to do it. And they will have apperently waisted bout 3 hrs.
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:56 AM   #40
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By law, dealerships are allowed to charge up to 400% markup on parts and service.....
By free choice, we are allowed to NOT use them.

This may be the very reason FEW people use them after the warranty expires.
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:58 AM   #41
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$160 & someone who knows what they are doing.

You can check some of the other threads on coilover installation and even make some changes to the alignment, based on how you will be driving.
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:14 PM   #42
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Dude, its a dealership, they're ripping you off if you go with them.
My salesman keeps leaving messages on my home phone to get my oil changed soon since its on special: $110.... The oil and filter were $60 from wal mart. Tell the dealerships to go suck a fat one. Bastids.
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:18 PM   #43
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By law, dealerships are allowed to charge up to 400% markup on parts and service.....
Like the guy said below;

By RIGHTS I can take it somewhere else.

I'm picking it up today. The paint will be finished.

One thing to note here is that not only will they NOT be making any money on my alignment, they won't see my car again for anything but warranty work. Ya, they get paid by GM for warranty stuff but I use the dealers I buy my cars from. Lexus and Jeep and Chevy. Well, I'll take my car to the Jeep place or maybe just do it myself.

If I have no warranty issues, they won't see my car again.

To be fair, when I pick my car up today, I'll verify with them that I'm not over-reacting. I want a breakdown of the cost. According to the lady I talked to on the phone, they are charging 2 hours for researching the proper specs, and then the rest is what their standard price is for a 4 wheel allignment. w'hich would still be around 180.00 but I could live with that. I have a feeling I will now be able to get it done for around the 120.00 to 150.00 range. I don't mind paying a little more to use the dealership but this is crazy.
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Dude, its a dealership, they're ripping you off if you go with them.
My salesman keeps leaving messages on my home phone to get my oil changed soon since its on special: $110.... The oil and filter were $60 from wal mart. Tell the dealerships to go go suck a fat one. Bastids.
Holy crap. I've had all mine done at the dealer so far and it is only 80.00 total. Which is a shocker that they were so screwball on this.
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way too much $ (as you know and have already decided)

Dealerships are rip offs, especially in the service department.
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Old 02-05-2010, 03:13 PM   #46
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way too much $ (as you know and have already decided)

Dealerships are rip offs, especially in the service department.
As I mentioned already, they seemed reasonable on the oil changes. I just went out and got my last recipt from an oil change I got last Monday. $83.46

Not too bad.

I want to be fair about this and dont think I'm being unreasonable.

I own a business myself and I would do the alignment at this point for the standard cost.

I would not have a problem charging someone 370.00 for it as long as I called them before hand and told them I was gonna have to do some research and they would be 'On the clock' so to speak. Then I would be justified in charging them. But I got the call AFTER they did their 'research'
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That is high if they are not installing some type of aftermarket camber or caster kit. 80.00-100.00 would be normal for a four wheel alignment even with it being lowered.
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Old 02-05-2010, 04:12 PM   #48
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Sounds like they spent time looking for the specs and decided to charge me for the time spent.

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As I mentioned already, they seemed reasonable on the oil changes. I just went out and got my last recipt from an oil change I got last Monday. $83.46

Not too bad.

I want to be fair about this and dont think I'm being unreasonable.

I own a business myself and I would do the alignment at this point for the standard cost.

I would not have a problem charging someone 370.00 for it as long as I called them before hand and told them I was gonna have to do some research and they would be 'On the clock' so to speak. Then I would be justified in charging them. But I got the call AFTER they did their 'research'
when I lowered my 94Z, I took it to the local tire shop that damn near EVERYONE uses and they told me flat out they wouldnt touch my car cus they thought the springs had been cut (instead of swapped for lowering springs).

I drove it over to Sears and they did the alignment to the specs I asked for $75.00
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No extra parts either. It's not like they had to buy stuff for it. Or use stuff on it. Just allign it. I don't care WHAT they say. You just don't pay 370.00 for an allignment.

Bay Chevrolet, Mobile, AL is an awesome dealership till you get around back.
Did he ask you to spin around and stare at your mouth a lot while he talked?
He wanted you around back alright

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I find too that car dealerships seem to be completely useless once you stray away from anything factory/stock. It is like they live in a bubble, completely oblivious to any after-market applications.
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Ok, I picked the car up earlier today. The paint work was perfect. They did a really good job. Painted the whole rear deck lid. No problems there.

I just couldn't allow myself to leave without talking to the service manager.

She of course remembered me from the situation that led up to the fuse pull. I asked her why the alignment would cost so much and she said that when they saw the car was so much lower that they didn't know what to do. I dont' have time to post the entire conversation but the 'long short' of it was, and I quote from her, "These guys do tune ups, oil changes and simple service work, they don't do performance modifications. They aren't trained for that kind of thing."

So I figure she did me a favor.

When they came to her and showed her what they were dealing with she said, and I quote again, "DO NOT PUT THAT ALIGNMENT EQUIPMENT ON THOSE WHEELS". When they asked her why she said "Because I know who's car that is."

Again, they were quite embarassed after the whole fuse pull thing. The fact that I had to fix my own car while they told me time and time again that there was nothing wrong with it.

I then asked her if she knew that these wheels were FACTORY EQUIPMENT, she said yes, but she didn't feel comfortable with them working on it.

Basically the 370.00 thing was their way of telling me that they won't work on a modified car.

So there you have it. I showed the Pfadt spec sheet to a local shop and he said he'd do it for 90.00 so I will have him do it on Monday.

Bay Chevrolet won't work on a car that has been modified with aftermarket stuff.

I got no problem with that. But they should have just told me that to begin with.

(I feel that she wasn't completely honest with me on how it all went down but I do know that they just didn't want to fool with it because they had some rookie guy working on it at the time)
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