Rumor: 6th gen 2014 Camaro, CTS to join Cadillac ATS on ALPHA Rear-Drive Platform

[jleinaweaver]

Originally Posted by AngryAmish

GM made this mistake in the '80s, I doubt they'll make it again. Anyone can tell by the sales numbers which kind of engine most people buying a Camaro prefer.

Simply put, you don't neuter one of your best studs in the stable.

They don't have a choice given the changes in CAFE and wanting to keep it affordable.

[stand-al0ne]

I'm an advocate of FI smaller cyc/ displacement motors, however, I still respect the notion that a v8 should still be an offering in a car such as this.

I would like to see a ttv6 option in the line-up, but don't deny the car its heritage.

If they want to make a ttv6-only coup, do it on a car thats not directly associated with "american muscle".

The new ATS/ CTS would be a great pick because it would go head to head with 335i's out there and should bump out IS350's from people's considerations.

Swizz says it well...

[klatterblast]

Originally Posted by SSOOCH

Yeah, because the Obama Administration invented the CAFE standards

Let's keep this post to the topic, not political please.

this whole topic is political because its what they want not us . let the public deside what to drive.

[bradRS]

Smart move to Alpha. Engines are getting far better these days, so the performance will come in many forms. Maybe even a diesel or hybrid Camaro. LOL Something for everyone

Camaro is making $$$ with the V8's. I'm sure they will continue to offer them for 8heads. Nothing can replace the real sound. However, they are experimenting with active sound in many upcoming vehicles, but i'm not too keen on that just yet.

Gotta love speculation and the varying opinions. This thread is going to become massive.

[CamaroTransAmFAM]

da auto world is getting 2 be too damm soft who and da heck wants a sports car with a V6???? turbocharged R not i WANT a V8 engine!!!!!!! all this MPG stuff is getting to be annoying who cares about MPG anyway i love muscle carz i hate da idea of a v8 not existing in a Camaro GM dont do it!!!!!!!! all US V8 loving guyz should start a petition & send it to GM to let them kno we love V8 cars,we already had to live with da fact of da Trans Am not being remade so GM please dont kill da Camaro too........

[tmurphycardesign]

alright everyone, Im a designer for cadillac (i havent said so before because i dont want to be bugged about stuff i cant say..sorry) and i, am working on the alpha cadillac. now i obviously cant tell or say much..but what i can tell u is that the alpha platform is great! tight overhangs, good proportions, and yes ive seen how the camaro will look and it looks great! so much that as cool as it is to see it, at the same its a curse because i see mine (5th gen) and i see everything that looks wrong.... weight and size is much improved too, overall camaro goin onto alpha will only make the car better.. in all ways.

[TheClassicCarKid]

Come on guys get real, they're not going to sell canaria without a v8 option, I can't believe how much you're buying into this.
Even if the ss gets a 400+ v6 there will be a higher trim with a v8, either a z28 or zL1

[CamaroTransAmFAM]

this thread is sparkin up a lot of heat no 1 wants a V6 Camaro SS that dont even sound right Camaro SS V6 this will be a HUGE mistake GM trust me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! who's making these decisionz R better yet who's coming up with these wack ideaz????? whoever this person is needz 2 be fired immediatly

[MontyCarlo]

We're already seeing plenty of "I don't care about the performance, the feel, the sound, the price... I only care that 8 is a bigger number than 6!" It's dumb, but a dumb customer's money is as good as a smart customer's money, so GM will probably put a V8 in one of the models even if it's the same performance as the turbocharged V6.

[moto-camaro]

only way i'd really accept a V6 SS is if it blew a V8 mustang out of the water... if not, i'll take a V8 please.

[CamaroTransAmFAM]

Originally Posted by tmurphycardesign

alright everyone, Im a designer for cadillac (i havent said so before because i dont want to be bugged about stuff i cant say..sorry) and i, am working on the alpha cadillac. now i obviously cant tell or say much..but what i can tell u is that the alpha platform is great! tight overhangs, good proportions, and yes ive seen how the camaro will look and it looks great! so much that as cool as it is to see it, at the same its a curse because i see mine (5th gen) and i see everything that looks wrong.... weight and size is much improved too, overall camaro goin onto alpha will only make the car better.. in all ways.

whatz the point of owning a Camaro without a v8 where's the fun N that????

[CamaroTransAmFAM]

Originally Posted by moto-camaro

only way i'd really accept a V6 SS is if it blew a V8 mustang out of the water... if not, i'll take a V8 please.

AGREED!!!!

[F N MUSCLE]

Originally Posted by tmurphycardesign

alright everyone, Im a designer for cadillac (i havent said so before because i dont want to be bugged about stuff i cant say..sorry) and i, am working on the alpha cadillac. now i obviously cant tell or say much..but what i can tell u is that the alpha platform is great! tight overhangs, good proportions, and yes ive seen how the camaro will look and it looks great! so much that as cool as it is to see it, at the same its a curse because i see mine (5th gen) and i see everything that looks wrong.... weight and size is much improved too, overall camaro goin onto alpha will only make the car better.. in all ways.

UHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Information like this makes me sad. I absolutely love my car, but if they are making it that much better, minus the V6, I almost want to wait and see what GM has up its sleeve. Yeah, its four or five years off, but as we have all seen with our cars, amazing things come to those who wait. I know tmurphy can't give us anymore information regarding the 6th Gen, but when I hear "I see everything that looks wrong," I get a little nervous.

[CamaroTransAmFAM]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Well, I also am accustomed to a V8 representing American muscle, but the times are a changin! Just look at fords Ecoboost V6 in the Taurus SHO....I've read that thing is a torque monster. (although I don't think its much easier on the gas sipping than a V8) I've also read they've actually limited its power output....that its capable of more. Anyways, as much as I love the sound of a good V8, IF they could do the V6 right, I'd accept one in an SS model.

That said, I really don't feel that the V8 will go away completely in the next-gen. If anything, I think the Z-28 (or whatever the top performance model will be) will have a V-8.

The good thing from the article is the claim that weight may come down! A couple hundred pounds off would be very sweet!

A tauras sho is junk its ugly its trash its a freakin ford.....garbage GM 4 Life

[BearDownSS]

I'd be really disappointed if there were no v8 available for the Camaro, I mean come on its a CAMARO not a friggin nissan z!

[Libertyforall1776]

VERY interesting... Now I am just waiting for the other shoe to drop (GM announcing DI V8s in the Camaro) ;-)

[Libertyforall1776]

You know they could come up with some other high performance models like ZR1, etc... It doesn't have to be named Z28.

Originally Posted by songsj

One thing is for sure, if the V8 goes I will be buying a 5th Gen and keeping it for summer pleasure driving, Maybe a Convertable. I do not like the sound of a turbo or supercharged 3.6 for the SS models. Unless there will be a V8 Z28. The is no repacement for displacement!!!!! Even though there are some very fast 4 and 6 cyl cars.
they just do not represent American muscle to me!!

[n!ght r!der]

a 3.6l v6 supercharged or not...is the opposite of muscle...by then, camaros will be everywhere and people are gonna want to buy mustangs just because they will probably be the only affordable v8 car left ..... and NOBODY wants that to happen, or at least I hope they dont.

[Leolee]

a camaro isnt a camaro w.o. a v8... enough said.

[n!ght r!der]

Originally Posted by Leolee

a camaro isnt a camaro w.o. a v8... enough said.

[FenwickHockey65]

Oh look, Camaro5 has ANOTHER freakout thread.

Calm down folks. GM knows what you want. GM will deliver.

[RocketCutlass]

I've learned not to take Motor Trends future speculations too seriously. Plus its all irrelivent, the apocolypse is 12/21/12 so there will be no 6th gen LOL... J/K... I hope LOL

[Libertyforall1776]

Sometimes saying so little says so much.

Thanks for the TEASE! ;-)


Can I have seconds?

Originally Posted by tmurphycardesign

alright everyone, Im a designer for cadillac (i havent said so before because i dont want to be bugged about stuff i cant say..sorry) and i, am working on the alpha cadillac. now i obviously cant tell or say much..but what i can tell u is that the alpha platform is great! tight overhangs, good proportions, and yes ive seen how the camaro will look and it looks great! so much that as cool as it is to see it, at the same its a curse because i see mine (5th gen) and i see everything that looks wrong.... weight and size is much improved too, overall camaro goin onto alpha will only make the car better.. in all ways.

[Brokinarrow]

Originally Posted by moto-camaro

only way i'd really accept a V6 SS is if it blew a V8 mustang out of the water... if not, i'll take a V8 please.

oh, it will. Mustang will probably have to end up going this same route though.

[Libertyforall1776]

I think it's time for a reply from fbodfather... ;-)

Originally Posted by MontyCarlo

We're already seeing plenty of "I don't care about the performance, the feel, the sound, the price... I only care that 8 is a bigger number than 6!" It's dumb, but a dumb customer's money is as good as a smart customer's money, so GM will probably put a V8 in one of the models even if it's the same performance as the turbocharged V6.