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Old 09-02-2008, 02:28 PM   #103
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If your a young Male rates will be HIGH, SORRY. My son is 20 and pays $4000 a year for a Chevy AVEO. NO tickets.
Yeah, that sounds like a ripoff. Either that or you're just full of it. Or maybe he's full of it. My buddy has a Mazdaspeed3 and pays 250 a month. He's 19 and it's a more powerful car than the aveo. I got quoted 212 dollars a month for my 2005 Pontiac GTO which is a 400hp RWD coupe. That's less than what he pays for his 100hp aveo. I'm 22. I ended up getting on a joint policy with my sister and pay 148 a month. If your son continues to pay 4000 bucks a year, he's crazy. Oh, if I have a speeding ticket I get a lawyer to take care of them. I still have one speeding ticket on my record that I paid outright. It was only 5mph over but I still paid one. So if I can get a 200 dollar a month car insurance payment for my GTO he should be able to do better than 300+ a month for his Aveo.


On the subject of power, these cars are very manageable. My GTO was my first RWD car and it was very streetable. The throttle was very predictable and easy to manage. I've always been a pretty cautious dude, but I can't speak for teenagers.

We can all judge these kids for getting their camaros for doing school work and what not, but that's really up to their parents. My dad wouldn't have anything to do with me buying my GTO so I have no idea what that's like. But I think growing up the way I did, I wouldn't feel right letting him buy me a car.

I think there's something to be said for teaching kids to earn their own way. And buying them a 30+k car when their barely legally able to drive it kind of spits in the face of that theory. But as long as parents are able to do it, it'll happen.

That's all assuming these kids aren't full of crap. Making it seem like they have to work so hard to get their straight As and come up with money so their the "least worst" of the spoiled kids.

I was on the Principal's honor roll for 4 years straight. AP classes and all kinds of academic achievement. I still never thought that was cause for my dad to buy me a 30k car considering going to school is for my benefit, not theirs. I can't understand the mindset that people get into thinking they're doing their parents a favor by going to school and doing well.


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Price: low to mid 30ks
Model: SS (possibly RS package depending on how the two look side by side)
Trans: 6 speed manual. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Color: Tough one. Black is classic and would work fine for me. Maybe some white stripes would be nice. Orange was my first choice, but I'm not sure how I like the orange they offer. Have to see it in person first.
Buying: Maybe the second model year or so.
Extras(?): HUD would be fun. Not exactly necessary, but could be entertaining. Navigation would be nice. I'd like MP3 connectivity too. I know the suspension will already kick ass, but if they have a handling upgrade, I'm all over it.
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Old 09-02-2008, 02:40 PM   #104
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Old 09-02-2008, 06:41 PM   #105
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yea i agree with you bowtieguy about the school stuff. that's why i started saving about two months ago and will probably be saving for the next two years to get up some money to pay for this car. part of the reason i am taking the AP's is so i can get an academic scholarship and save some money and all on college so i can afford the payments. he he he i got it all mapped out :].. either that or just stick with soccer and get a soccer scholarship. always got a back up
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Old 09-02-2008, 07:14 PM   #106
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Of course age has something to do with it. Not everyone has had the experience with hi-po cars like you and I have.

I can't believe that some of you are talking about making straight A's as actual work towards a Camaro. I mean I know honors and AP classes is a little harder and all that but come on. If you are actually taking these classes that must mean you have the mental capacity to pass them. Not to belittle any accomplishments, but getting A's just means doing all your work and turning in assignments on time.

I guess I came off like a bit of a prick just now. Sorry if I offended anyone. I'm just sore that I have to be saving for the next two years and work a 40+ hour job as a service technician to get my dream car.
Why the HELL are you pissed man? Listen to yourself. I'd rather work for my car like I am than just get it handed to me. You watch, three years into owning your Camaro you worked hard for, it will still be spotless getting thorough details on a weekly basis while any kids that were given theirs will probably neglect them or hell, sell them for the next big thing.

If you work for something, you appreciate it all the more, and you're working for something you know you'll keep for the long haul. I'm proud of you and what you're doing - don't be disappointed that you will have to be patient. Patience is the hallmark of a true leader, as they say. In the long run, you'll appreciate yourself more, everyone here will appreciate your efforts more, hell, everyone in general will appreciate it more. Would you rather have good luck or a nice sense of accomplishment? The latter if ya' ask me.

You watch, man. Thirty years from now, you'll be one of those guys whose 5th-gen Camaro everyone is gawking at because somehow it is at 75,000+ miles and looks as if it's at 5,000 miles with original equipment and paint.
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Old 09-02-2008, 08:02 PM   #107
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Of course age has something to do with it. Not everyone has had the experience with hi-po cars like you and I have.

I can't believe that some of you are talking about making straight A's as actual work towards a Camaro. I mean I know honors and AP classes is a little harder and all that but come on. If you are actually taking these classes that must mean you have the mental capacity to pass them. Not to belittle any accomplishments, but getting A's just means doing all your work and turning in assignments on time.

I guess I came off like a bit of a prick just now. Sorry if I offended anyone. I'm just sore that I have to be saving for the next two years and work a 40+ hour job as a service technician to get my dream car.
Well, let's look at this from this standpoint.

Straight A's + AP courses + Honors classes = Scholarships.

Scholarships = Money saved.

Money saved = Camaro.



And by the way, I think you need to spend some time in my AP courses. You can turn in assignments on time, but if that's all you do, you're still going to fail miserably. The only reason I got As and Bs throughout the year and a 5 on the AP test was by literally studying every single friggin' night.
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Old 09-02-2008, 08:28 PM   #108
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Straight A's + AP courses + Honors classes = Scholarships.

Scholarships = Money saved.

Money saved = Camaro.
And I must say...that theory is working out VERY well for me right now.
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:16 PM   #109
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Yeah, that sounds like a ripoff. Either that or you're just full of it. Or maybe he's full of it. My buddy has a Mazdaspeed3 and pays 250 a month. He's 19 and it's a more powerful car than the aveo. I got quoted 212 dollars a month for my 2005 Pontiac GTO which is a 400hp RWD coupe. That's less than what he pays for his 100hp aveo. I'm 22. I ended up getting on a joint policy with my sister and pay 148 a month. If your son continues to pay 4000 bucks a year, he's crazy. Oh, if I have a speeding ticket I get a lawyer to take care of them. I still have one speeding ticket on my record that I paid outright. It was only 5mph over but I still paid one. So if I can get a 200 dollar a month car insurance payment for my GTO he should be able to do better than 300+ a month for his Aveo.
Yeah, $4000 for an Aveo for a 20 year old is crazy without tickets.

At 20 (in 1993) I had a '91 Camaro V6 and was paying a little over $3000. Even less than that at 21 for a brand new 1995 Cavalier.
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:09 AM   #110
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Why the HELL are you pissed man? Listen to yourself. I'd rather work for my car like I am than just get it handed to me. You watch, three years into owning your Camaro you worked hard for, it will still be spotless getting thorough details on a weekly basis while any kids that were given theirs will probably neglect them or hell, sell them for the next big thing.

If you work for something, you appreciate it all the more, and you're working for something you know you'll keep for the long haul. I'm proud of you and what you're doing - don't be disappointed that you will have to be patient. Patience is the hallmark of a true leader, as they say. In the long run, you'll appreciate yourself more, everyone here will appreciate your efforts more, hell, everyone in general will appreciate it more. Would you rather have good luck or a nice sense of accomplishment? The latter if ya' ask me.

You watch, man. Thirty years from now, you'll be one of those guys whose 5th-gen Camaro everyone is gawking at because somehow it is at 75,000+ miles and looks as if it's at 5,000 miles with original equipment and paint.
I know it. I just get mad at kids and parents like that. I'm going to love and appreciate my car for as long as I can drive it before it falls apart around my ass (and then probably have it rebuilt). I'm basically just venting, I would much rather earn it than recieve it.
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Old 09-03-2008, 01:32 AM   #111
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Yeah, that sounds like a ripoff. Either that or you're just full of it. Or maybe he's full of it. My buddy has a Mazdaspeed3 and pays 250 a month. He's 19 and it's a more powerful car than the aveo. I got quoted 212 dollars a month for my 2005 Pontiac GTO which is a 400hp RWD coupe. That's less than what he pays for his 100hp aveo. I'm 22. I ended up getting on a joint policy with my sister and pay 148 a month. If your son continues to pay 4000 bucks a year, he's crazy. Oh, if I have a speeding ticket I get a lawyer to take care of them. I still have one speeding ticket on my record that I paid outright. It was only 5mph over but I still paid one. So if I can get a 200 dollar a month car insurance payment for my GTO he should be able to do better than 300+ a month for his Aveo.


On the subject of power, these cars are very manageable. My GTO was my first RWD car and it was very streetable. The throttle was very predictable and easy to manage. I've always been a pretty cautious dude, but I can't speak for teenagers.

We can all judge these kids for getting their camaros for doing school work and what not, but that's really up to their parents. My dad wouldn't have anything to do with me buying my GTO so I have no idea what that's like. But I think growing up the way I did, I wouldn't feel right letting him buy me a car.

I think there's something to be said for teaching kids to earn their own way. And buying them a 30+k car when their barely legally able to drive it kind of spits in the face of that theory. But as long as parents are able to do it, it'll happen.

That's all assuming these kids aren't full of crap. Making it seem like they have to work so hard to get their straight As and come up with money so their the "least worst" of the spoiled kids.

I was on the Principal's honor roll for 4 years straight. AP classes and all kinds of academic achievement. I still never thought that was cause for my dad to buy me a 30k car considering going to school is for my benefit, not theirs. I can't understand the mindset that people get into thinking they're doing their parents a favor by going to school and doing well.


On topic:

Price: low to mid 30ks
Model: SS (possibly RS package depending on how the two look side by side)
Trans: 6 speed manual. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Color: Tough one. Black is classic and would work fine for me. Maybe some white stripes would be nice. Orange was my first choice, but I'm not sure how I like the orange they offer. Have to see it in person first.
Buying: Maybe the second model year or so.
Extras(?): HUD would be fun. Not exactly necessary, but could be entertaining. Navigation would be nice. I'd like MP3 connectivity too. I know the suspension will already kick ass, but if they have a handling upgrade, I'm all over it.

Now what I bolded I take offense to, I am in no way shape or form spoiled. Hell Im probably on the lower end of the middle class. And for someone to call me spoiled, even your "least worst" of the spoiled kids just pisses the Fking shit out of me. I realize you point of view but you need to understand Im one of the kids that took a job moving crap around in the back of grocery, clothing department, stores and shit just so I wold ask my parents for money. I've earn all the things I have and for you to say that I'm SPOILED is the single handedly dumbest thing to say to me.

And to nUcLeArEnVoY: owning a Maro is the only car I've truly wanted since I sat in My uncles 86 IROC. This car will never be sold never be neglected. This is the only car in the world that is worth anything more to me than what is costs. This car is the only way I feel like my uncle is still with me.
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alright this is getting out of hand.. maybe we should just drop this and get back on topic which was basically what do you want your maro' to be?
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Yeah, that sounds like a ripoff. Either that or you're just full of it. Or maybe he's full of it. My buddy has a Mazdaspeed3 and pays 250 a month. He's 19 and it's a more powerful car than the aveo. I got quoted 212 dollars a month for my 2005 Pontiac GTO which is a 400hp RWD coupe. That's less than what he pays for his 100hp aveo. I'm 22. I ended up getting on a joint policy with my sister and pay 148 a month. If your son continues to pay 4000 bucks a year, he's crazy. Oh, if I have a speeding ticket I get a lawyer to take care of them. I still have one speeding ticket on my record that I paid outright. It was only 5mph over but I still paid one. So if I can get a 200 dollar a month car insurance payment for my GTO he should be able to do better than 300+ a month for his Aveo.


On the subject of power, these cars are very manageable. My GTO was my first RWD car and it was very streetable. The throttle was very predictable and easy to manage. I've always been a pretty cautious dude, but I can't speak for teenagers.

We can all judge these kids for getting their camaros for doing school work and what not, but that's really up to their parents. My dad wouldn't have anything to do with me buying my GTO so I have no idea what that's like. But I think growing up the way I did, I wouldn't feel right letting him buy me a car.

I think there's something to be said for teaching kids to earn their own way. And buying them a 30+k car when their barely legally able to drive it kind of spits in the face of that theory. But as long as parents are able to do it, it'll happen.

That's all assuming these kids aren't full of crap. Making it seem like they have to work so hard to get their straight As and come up with money so their the "least worst" of the spoiled kids.

I was on the Principal's honor roll for 4 years straight. AP classes and all kinds of academic achievement. I still never thought that was cause for my dad to buy me a 30k car considering going to school is for my benefit, not theirs. I can't understand the mindset that people get into thinking they're doing their parents a favor by going to school and doing well.


On topic:

Price: low to mid 30ks
Model: SS (possibly RS package depending on how the two look side by side)
Trans: 6 speed manual. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Color: Tough one. Black is classic and would work fine for me. Maybe some white stripes would be nice. Orange was my first choice, but I'm not sure how I like the orange they offer. Have to see it in person first.
Buying: Maybe the second model year or so.
Extras(?): HUD would be fun. Not exactly necessary, but could be entertaining. Navigation would be nice. I'd like MP3 connectivity too. I know the suspension will already kick ass, but if they have a handling upgrade, I'm all over it.


+1 on the whole mommy and daddy buying 30k cars for teenagers. I have worked 40+ hours PLUS gone to college for 4 years now just to live and PAY for my education. Not because my parents can't pay, its because they WON'T, and i don't blame them. I recieved scholarships, but they don't take care of everything, and its not as hard as you think to work while in school. Sorry if i sound a little irritated, but lets be honest, what 16 year old needs a camaro? I will have to buy mine used most likely, because i can't afford student loans, bills, and housing along with a 350+ dollar car payment. Now to the topic:

What i want: ss/rs, auto trans, HAVE to have the gauge pod. See what i can find used after the first year, just hope GM brings something sweet out year 2 so someone will trade in their SS. Color would be black, silver or blue, beggers can't be choosers though
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:22 PM   #114
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I need one because next year I am going to have a really chaotic schedule. I am going to be in band and we practice every night for 3 hours. It's pretty hard and we're really good. 2nd in the world. I then have golf which practices at various time and so does baseball so don't tell me I don't need a car. My parents are almost always busy because they have lots of responsibilites in the companies that they work in. Don't get me wrong, they are still there for me and come to my games and stuff but don't tell me I don't need a Camaro when you don't even know me.
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I need one because next year I am going to have a really chaotic schedule. I am going to be in band and we practice every night for 3 hours. It's pretty hard and we're really good. 2nd in the world. I then have golf which practices at various time and so does baseball so don't tell me I don't need a car. My parents are almost always busy because they have lots of responsibilites in the companies that they work in. Don't get me wrong, they are still there for me and come to my games and stuff but don't tell me I don't need a Camaro when you don't even know me.
Technically you don't.

You need transportation, it can be an 84 honda with different sized rims all around, and 4 different colors of paint. You just need something that runs, it doesn't HAVE to be a Camaro.

That's technically speaking of course.

Chevy needs you to buy a Camaro though, the more they sell, the better off they are, and the happier we'll all be
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TECHNICALLY I don't need a CAMARO but I do need a car. I am getting a Camaro. If you pay attention in school and do well in college, people come to YOU. That is what my dad did, he is smart and has money. He said it was okay to buy one so I am going to get one. Get over it.

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I am torn between a V8 with Tapshift and a V8 with manual.
I am also torn between what color to get the Camaro in. Black or White?
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TECHNICALLY I don't need a CAMARO but I do need a car. I am getting a Camaro. If you pay attention in school and do well in college, people come to YOU. That is what my dad did, he is smart and has money. He said it was okay to buy one so I am going to get one. Get over it.

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I am torn between a V8 with Tapshift and a V8 with manual.
I am also torn between what color to get the Camaro in. Black or White?
Well, is there alot of traffic in your daily commute? If there is, I would definitely go for the auto, and as for black/white, I wouldn't go for either, cuz they are both a pain to keep clean, but since those are the only two choices you gave, I'd get black.
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