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Old 02-09-2010, 05:31 PM   #1
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SS A6 or M6 faster??????

I have an m6 ordered but I am curious as to which one is faster?????? Anybody know? acceleration of course!
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Old 02-09-2010, 05:32 PM   #2
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The tests seem to show the automatic is faster. That's what I've read. I'm no expert.

Note: I didn't say "better" in any way. I firmly believe that is a matter of personal preference. This has been a hot topic of discussion before so beware.
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Old 02-09-2010, 05:36 PM   #3
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Faster at what? And there have been some lengthy discussions, might want to try a search on it.

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Old 02-09-2010, 05:50 PM   #5
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The M6 has 26 more hp at the crank, in addition to lower drivetrain losses. Automatics have up to 5% more losses that manuals, so the difference is even greater at the rear wheels. But, lacking a professional driver, the automatic is often faster in the quarter (as the previous poster stated).
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Old 02-09-2010, 05:53 PM   #6
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Instead of saying the A6 is faster, why not say the A6 is more CONSISTENT. A very good driver can make a M6 shift very fast and precise, but even they mess up from time to time. An automatic will shift at what it determines the best spot EVERYTIME. You have to decide if the computer does indeed shift at the perfect time for YOU. If you like to shift gears, the M6 will be considerably more fun to drive. Oh, you do get that extra 26hp with the M6 as well.

With a good driver, the M6 should have the advantage. Over several races, (bracket racing) the A6 should dominate. For everyday driving, it's purely choice.
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Old 02-09-2010, 05:55 PM   #7
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Old 02-09-2010, 05:56 PM   #8
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http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21013 The official Quarter mile list .
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Old 02-09-2010, 05:57 PM   #9
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Add the right torque converter to the A6 and its over for the poor 6SP guys
Just kidding guys, the camaro has to be a hoot to row threw the gears...
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Old 02-09-2010, 05:59 PM   #10
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In daily driving the M6 feels stronger........ and I drive them both.
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Old 02-09-2010, 06:05 PM   #11
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I have a 3200 stall converter in my 02 and I will be faster in a 1/4 than most stick shift cars, but the manual is more fun to drive. My 5th Gen will be a M6
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:03 PM   #12
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The 6 Speed Manual has 26 more HP, and also gets a 3.45 rear end instead of the 3.27 in the automatic. As far as which one is faster I think I'd say they are probably pretty evenly matched, but the Automatic would produce more consistant results during timed acceleration. I bought the 6SP manual to avoid getting the active fuel management....I'll leave fuel management to my right foot instead.
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:56 PM   #13
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I cant comment on what is faster but how can you get a Camaro with out a stick? i like driving my car. Not my car driving me no offense to you A6 guys.
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:19 PM   #14
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I cant comment on what is faster but how can you get a Camaro with out a stick? i like driving my car. Not my car driving me no offense to you A6 guys.
What does shifting your own gears have to do with DRIVING? If anything, the autos allow you to drive your car more since you're not interupted with HAVING to shift gears. Nice try though. If you like shifting gears, it's totally fine, but don't say it's blasphemy to get one without a manual. I've had my time shifting through gears and now I don't want to anymore. That's my choice and that's what I wanted. I'm glad you like options you chose on your car.
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:21 PM   #15
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How good are you with a 6-speed ?
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:27 PM   #16
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What does shifting your own gears have to do with DRIVING? If anything, the autos allow you to drive your car more since you're not interupted with HAVING to shift gears. Nice try though. If you like shifting gears, it's totally fine, but don't say it's blasphemy to get one without a manual. I've had my time shifting through gears and now I don't want to anymore. That's my choice and that's what I wanted. I'm glad you like options you chose on your car.

But wouldn't you love to have to be interupted by having to shift??
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:29 PM   #17
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Considering that the top 10 right now for stock are mostly manuals, what do you think?

(Top 30 in each category)

Stock

1. 2quick - 12.61 @ 111.60 mph, (LS3, M6)
2. nhra stocker - 12.62 @ 110.30, (LS3, M6)
3. b20 - 12.81 @ 108.73 mph, (LS3, M6)
4. speedy6963 - 12.87 @ 109.08, (LS3, M6)
5. 8ty8ls1 - 12.97 @ 107.61 mph, (L99, A6)
6. 1stGM - 12.98 @ 107. 34 mph, (L99, A6)
7. blufin - 13.03 @ 109.20 mph, (LS3, M6)
8. SSmokey - 13.04 @ 110.80 mph, (LS3, M6)
9. NineBall - 13.07 @ 109.07 mph, (LS3, M6)
10. Kathy63 - 13.07 @ 105.84 mph, (LS3, m6)
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:33 PM   #18
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The automatic is faster in the quarter mile, but the margin is very small.
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:38 PM   #19
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The automatic is faster in the quarter mile, but the margin is very small.
No, it isn't. See the above times. 8 out of the 10 top quarter miles were done on manuals. As others have said, the Automatic will be more consistent, but the M6 is the faster car with a good driver.
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Old 02-10-2010, 01:42 AM   #20
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The A6 will 'generally' have an easier and more consistent launch... coupled with the lower gearing will typically be a little faster to 60mph.

But, the extra HP and more efficient power transfer through the tranny allows the M6 to catch up in the quarter mile and beat the A6 by a tenth or two.

So, all things being equal - A6 quicker to 60 mph... M6 quicker to 1/4 mile.



P.S. neither are 'faster'... both are electronically speed limited to 155 mph!
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Old 02-10-2010, 01:55 AM   #21
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No, it isn't. See the above times. 8 out of the 10 top quarter miles were done on manuals. As others have said, the Automatic will be more consistent, but the M6 is the faster car with a good driver.
I'll take the A6 from in the 1/8th mile thank you.
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Old 02-10-2010, 02:00 AM   #22
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it depends on the driver.
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No, it isn't. See the above times. 8 out of the 10 top quarter miles were done on manuals. As others have said, the Automatic will be more consistent, but the M6 is the faster car with a good driver.
I'd like to know how many L99s have bben to the track as apposed to how many LS3s. I'll bet there are FAR more manual guys at the track. Those numbers can be scewed. This thing could get resolved at the fest. Depending on how many cars there will be stock. Should be plenty of autos there.
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Old 02-10-2010, 02:51 AM   #24
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I believe when Motor Trend and Car and Driver tested both the SS cars out, they got the Automatic quicker in the 0-60 launch but the manuals won the quarter mile battle.
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All things being equal, with 426 HP (stock for the M6 and modded for the A6) and tuned, the auto will run faster in the quarter mile and pretty much any length of whatever track you want to put it on.

It is physically impossible for a human to shift faster and more precisely than a properly tuned automatic transmission.
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