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Old 09-03-2008, 12:04 PM   #1
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21" stock rims.....

i know they keep saying there are going to be optional 21" stock rims for the camaro. and that they are coming in black and polished. but does any one have any idea of that they are going to look like???
is it these?
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if they are ill stick with the stock 20"s
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:21 PM   #3
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I need to see the optional 21" wheels, more like Bumblebee. WOW. HUGE.
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i know they keep saying there are going to be optional 21" stock rims for the camaro. and that they are coming in black and polished. but does any one have any idea of that they are going to look like???
is it these?
Where is it said 21's... the largest they have officially announced is 20's...


Besides 21's are horrible for tire options/pricing.. even 22" tires are cheaper than 21" tires
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Where is it said 21's... the largest they have officially announced is 20's...


Besides 21's are horrible for tire options/pricing.. even 22" tires are cheaper than 21" tires
was mentioned on that KBB video in another thread.
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do you really need 21's ? My current car has 17's and I think they look good. 21's are going to be so freakin heavy you can forget the 0-60 in sub 5 seconds lol.
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it also says 21's on chevys web sight

the bumble bee wheels are the same as the vert and they are 21 and 22's
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do you really need 21's ? My current car has 17's and I think they look good. 21's are going to be so freakin heavy you can forget the 0-60 in sub 5 seconds lol.
there not steel. the 20's are not that heavy and 21's arent much different.

im not too concerned about the price of the tire. im buying a damn muscle car, their ment to go through some rubber. im not buying a honda. i know what to expect with a rwd v8 car with alot of hp. when you buy a car like this you have to prepare for the repair cost and replacement cost even after the arranty expires.
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it also says 21's on chevys web sight

the bumble bee wheels are the same as the vert and they are 21 and 22's
Uhh have an official link because I can't find one.... Also who at KBB is in charge at GM? Until its from GM its just rumor...

The official PDF's have just 3 wheels

18 X 7.5 (LS base)
19 X 8 (LT optional)
20 X 8 (X9 in rear, for the SS)

AFTERMARKET wheels from GMPP sure they probably will have 21's .. but they wont be "stock"
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I'd rather have the 'Vert wheels than any of the abominations on that red car. They look like bling-bling gone flat. I was hoping they'd make the 'Vert wheels in the first place, but I guess not - unless that's what these mysterious 21" rims are.
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The 21" wheels were not going to be stock. They were to be dealer installed GM accessories. They also included a different spoiler and a body kit. It is somewhere on this site. I am curious to see them also.

here is the link to a GM site that list these available accessories

http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/insi...y/?id=cid00018

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The new Camaro is complemented by a wide range of available dealer-installed accessories that allows customers to create a more personal car. From convenience features to appearance and performance upgrades - including 21-inch wheels4 - the accessories include the following:

Interior trim kit - a four-piece kit offered in different colors
Interior accessories - items include premium, "Camaro"-embroidered floor mats, sill plates and more
Exterior detailing accessories - a variety of components are offered, from grille inserts and fuel doors to a High Rear Wing and Lower Ground Effects Package
Stripes - heritage-inspired stripes are offered in RS style for the hood or "hockey stick" style side design
Engine covers - available in five colors for the V6 and V8 engines
Wheels - split-five-spoke 21-inch wheels are offered in black metallic and polished finishes
Performance parts - numerous performance-enhancing components, including a tuned air intake, cat-back exhaust system, a Hurst short-throw shifter as well as more traditional GM Performance Parts.
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Uhh have an official link because I can't find one.... Also who at KBB is in charge at GM? Until its from GM its just rumor...

The official PDF's have just 3 wheels

18 X 7.5 (LS base)
19 X 8 (LT optional)
20 X 8 (X9 in rear, for the SS)

AFTERMARKET wheels from GMPP sure they probably will have 21's .. but they wont be "stock"
http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/insi...y/?id=cid00018
read it. its under accesories toward the bottom of the page.
the 6th bullet down.

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Uhh have an official link because I can't find one.... Also who at KBB is in charge at GM? Until its from GM its just rumor...

The official PDF's have just 3 wheels

18 X 7.5 (LS base)
19 X 8 (LT optional)
20 X 8 (X9 in rear, for the SS)

AFTERMARKET wheels from GMPP sure they probably will have 21's .. but they wont be "stock"
what are you talking about someone at kbb in charge of gm? im lost now.
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Hey Guys. I don’t think you will get the chance to see any of the official aftermarket parts from GM until SEMA in September. I will say that I have been talking with some one that is very reliable from GM in reference to the aftermarket parts and accessories. I have thrown idea at this person that I will not name. Things about what if I decide to get an Eaton TVS R2300 supercharger that is used on the ZR1 sense the two cars share the same LS3 6.2 V8. All I can say from his response is this, “just weight till after Sema and the car hits the show room". But on rims. I have herd people talk about how they like the ones on the Convertible Concept. Well take a look at the "Konig Beyond" rims. They are mostly used by the pony car group, but just check out the similarity before you beat me to death and shoot me. Ow and dear god I hope the 21’s don’t look like the ones in that pic.
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Hey Guys. I donít think you will get the chance to see any of the official aftermarket parts from GM until SEMA in September. I will say that I have been talking with some one that is very reliable from GM in reference to the aftermarket parts and accessories. I have thrown idea at this person that I will not name. Things about what if I decide to get an Eaton TVS R2300 supercharger that is used on the ZR1 sense the two cars share the same LS3 6.2 V8. All I can say from his response is this, ďjust weight till after Sema and the car hits the show room". But on rims. I have herd people talk about how they like the ones on the Convertible Concept. Well take a look at the "Konig Beyond" rims. They are mostly used by the pony car group, but just check out the similarity before you beat me to death and shoot me. Ow and dear god I hope the 21ís donít look like the ones in that pic.
Here are the wheels in question:



If you google them, you'll see them mostly on Mustangs... which at the moment... kind of take up the pony car segment since the Challenger is too new for us to start seeing mods right away. So 13F20 is right.

These Konig's actually look pretty damn sweet if you ask me. I might just get them for my Camaro! They're like a more down to earth, deep-dished version of the 'Vert wheels.
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Old 09-03-2008, 10:38 PM   #15
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thanks for showing some love with out executing me
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thanks for showing some love with out executing me
Why would we do that? Because of what you're driving? Dude, everyone's got their own tastes and there's no denying the 350Z is a looker. Otherwise, you're not bothering anybody so there's no reason to bash. Welcome to Camaro5, BTW.
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Hey guys just to give you a place to look for rims. Check out "www.Americanracing.com" The selection is quite nice.
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Not for the car but for suggesting people put something on there Camaro the is normally used by the pony car crowd.
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Not for the car but for suggesting people put something on there Camaro the is normally used by the pony car crowd.
I wouldn't know, actually. I am quite akin to the pony car trends and I have never seen those wheels, actually. I am more used to Mustangs with TTII's or these ugly chrome blang-blang wheels.
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there not steel. the 20's are not that heavy and 21's arent much different.

im not too concerned about the price of the tire. im buying a damn muscle car, their ment to go through some rubber. im not buying a honda. i know what to expect with a rwd v8 car with alot of hp. when you buy a car like this you have to prepare for the repair cost and replacement cost even after the arranty expires.

Even if they are forged they will be heavy. With the rubber you need to put on there and the size of that rim it is a ton of rotational mass that this car will need to move compared to say an 18.

I would step out and guess that at the VERY BEST that 21 will weigh in at like 28 lbs. Add a 35 lbs tire to that and you have a lot of loss there.

My current car has 17's and they weight 20lbs and 46 total with the rubber. Some people are swapping these out even b/c they are too heavy and opt for 17s that weigh like 16.5 lbs.

I am all for good looks but I don't want to sacrifice all that rolling mass for bling
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Even if they are forged they will be heavy. With the rubber you need to put on there and the size of that rim it is a ton of rotational mass that this car will need to move compared to say an 18.

I would step out and guess that at the VERY BEST that 21 will weigh in at like 28 lbs. Add a 35 lbs tire to that and you have a lot of loss there.

My current car has 17's and they weight 20lbs and 46 total with the rubber. Some people are swapping these out even b/c they are too heavy and opt for 17s that weigh like 16.5 lbs.

I am all for good looks but I don't want to sacrifice all that rolling mass for bling
im not too worried about the camaro being able to roll over a 21"wheels. putting a 21 on the ss is like putting the 20" on the rs package. the rs has less power but its still going to be a performer with the big rim. the ss will be just fine with a 21" wheel if the rs is doing as good as it is so far.

im not big on BLING either, i am white but i have good taste and i knw what looks good on a car. thats why chevy isnt doing anything smaller than a 18, because that style is out and there are new looks to a car.
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Here are the wheels in question:



If you google them, you'll see them mostly on Mustangs... which at the moment... kind of take up the pony car segment since the Challenger is too new for us to start seeing mods right away. So 13F20 is right.

These Konig's actually look pretty damn sweet if you ask me. I might just get them for my Camaro! They're like a more down to earth, deep-dished version of the 'Vert wheels.
dont know if i like that wheel. the description on the chevy page said something like a double bar 5 spoke. in black or polished
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http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/insi...y/?id=cid00018
read it. its under accesories toward the bottom of the page.
the 6th bullet down.
Read the whole thing... here ill copy and underline the pertinent part...

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The new Camaro is complemented by a wide range of available dealer-installed accessories that allows customers to create a more personal car.
Dealer installed =/= stock... Sure you can get them.. but they are still considered aftermarket and not options. This was my only beef with the topic.. everyone saw STOCK and assumed they would come from the factory (which you further implied because KBB said so in thier video). They are not stock, they are not factory options. THEY ARE DEALER INSTALLED ACCESSORIES.
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No one ever said these were listed as being part of the accessories from the dealers. All I was saying is that some people liked the ones used on the Convertible concept and if they wanted to get something very close to those rims then these are a close second to them. So I informed every one where they could go to see what they look like and make a decision for them selves
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Hey Guys. I donít think you will get the chance to see any of the official aftermarket parts from GM until SEMA in September. I will say that I have been talking with some one that is very reliable from GM in reference to the aftermarket parts and accessories. I have thrown idea at this person that I will not name. Things about what if I decide to get an Eaton TVS R2300 supercharger that is used on the ZR1 sense the two cars share the same LS3 6.2 V8. All I can say from his response is this, ďjust weight till after Sema and the car hits the show room". But on rims. I have herd people talk about how they like the ones on the Convertible Concept. Well take a look at the "Konig Beyond" rims. They are mostly used by the pony car group, but just check out the similarity before you beat me to death and shoot me. Ow and dear god I hope the 21ís donít look like the ones in that pic.
You had my complete attention at TVS 2300, LOL. I hope we get lots of info' from SEMA. I wish I could go...

I like the 'Verts wheels a lot. I too worry about the mass of the wheels and tires but I definately need a symetry in the wheelwells so I'll have to see one in person with the different sizes.
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