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Old 09-03-2008, 10:12 PM   #43
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Don't get your panties in a bunch, you guys.
He never said "dead", or "canceled". Only that the original plan isn't jusifiable anymore.
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Old 09-03-2008, 10:43 PM   #44
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A definitive answer sure would be nice....

I would agree -- and so would a comprehensive energy plan that's consistent.......however, don't get me going about how things happen in Congress and the Senate..........
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Old 09-03-2008, 10:52 PM   #45
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I would agree -- and so would a comprehensive energy plan that's consistent.......however, don't get me going about how things happen in Congress and the Senate..........
I think that may have been the answer you all wanted.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:07 PM   #46
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I would agree -- and so would a comprehensive energy plan that's consistent.......however, don't get me going about how things happen in Congress and the Senate..........
Z28? Still on the table? Might possibly see one again? In some form?
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:12 PM   #47
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I think that may have been the answer you all wanted.
As far as a blown car goes, yup. My next best hope is to be able to get one from GMPP.

And then aftermarket...

If it is what GM needs to do to stay competitive then, I believe em.

I can't believe CA is favoring foreign cars... 50,000 unit limit. So not only did CAFE screw us, But CA policy just spilled over to the rest of us... That is infuriating.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:34 PM   #48
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As far as a blown car goes, yup. My next best hope is to be able to get one from GMPP.

And then aftermarket...

If it is what GM needs to do to stay competitive then, I believe em.

I can't believe CA is favoring foreign cars... 50,000 unit limit. So not only did CAFE screw us, But CA policy just spilled over to the rest of us... That is infuriating.
I dont favor foreign cars. me likey american cars.
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:38 AM   #49
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I would agree -- and so would a comprehensive energy plan that's consistent.......however, don't get me going about how things happen in Congress and the Senate..........
I'm sorry 'Father, but going back to your original statement in this post:

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Not true.

Sorry.


CAFE is making it VERY HARD to justify what we'd planned.

You might want to write to your elected officials and tell 'em what you think about CAFE.........
This statement is what has me a little confused. I'm not going to waste your time in asking for specifics, but are you saying that your plan is not completely dead, because you didn't say that it was; just that it was very hard. I don't mean to put words on your keyboard, I'm just asking for clarification there.

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I'm sorry 'Father, but going back to your original statement in this post:



This statement is what has me a little confused. I'm not going to waste your time in asking for specifics, but are you saying that your plan is not completely dead, because you didn't say that it was; just that it was very hard. I don't mean to put words on your keyboard, I'm just asking for clarification there.

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i think ill keep my faith. maybe gm has something up there sleve to make it just as powerful as plan a but good mpgs. or maybe modded plan a
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:35 PM   #51
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i think ill keep my faith. maybe gm has something up there sleve to make it just as powerful as plan a but good mpgs. or maybe modded plan a
Me too. Maybe the Volt can be the savin grace GM needs. We don't know what's in the works (what was) but the Volt can't hurt anything.
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they are banking heavily on the volt and it's technology.
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Old 09-04-2008, 05:58 PM   #53
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something I've said before that I pray to God will happen for this car:

GM has done alot of testing and tuning for different variants of the new Camaro... GM doesn't have to offer a Z28 and get all of the certifications done for a production car... offering all of the parts to make your own Z28 through the GMPP aftermarket branch of GM could easily justify the time and effort of testing and tuning the car and the equipment... and save GM a HUGE investment by not having to bring the car fully to market.

so my question to everyone is this:
if your local Chevy dealership offered a $7500 package that included the supercharger, a computer flash for said supercharger, a set of stiffer springs and some nifty Z28 badges, would you buy it?
would you have the dealership install it? or would you install it yourself?
would you be more interested in this package if it were to carry a 36month/30,000mile warranty if installed by a GM certified install technician?






oh, and the LS7 might not be quite as dead as we had originally thought... check out some of the recent offerings by the Aussies to get a better idea of why I say this
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I say yes; at the same time (not to be argumentative) I ask whether or not the rest of the drivetrain will take it... YES
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I say yes; at the same time (not to be argumentative) I ask whether or not the rest of the drivetrain will take it... YES

ahhhhh, see, that's where the testing and tuning of the car comes in... GM has already done some testing of the driveline with this setup (c'mon, folks, you know the car's out there... its just not being talked about), so they already know what to the tolerances are for horsepower and suspension upgrades... so the computer flash that comes with this nifty package would take you to the limits of what the driveline can hold... if you modify it farther, you void the warranty... see where this is going?
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