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Old 02-10-2010, 11:13 PM   #26
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They weren't going to bring back the camaro...But everyone wanted it back, they kept asking and eventually gm made it happen.. the z/28 is going to be made as long as we don't lose hope..and bug the hell out of gm.
thanks for the history lesson. lol. but enough people in GM wanted it back to make the concept happen. once that happened and the reaction it got. It was going to be a no brainer.

but all I have to say is what scott said and kept saying "keep the faith."
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No, I can understand simply waiting. What I don't get is having the SS already, then giving it up NOW to settle for my Honda DD. And dad, having a brand new GS stating, "What? The Z/28 is a go?! I gotta sell this thing and buy my kid's used Camaro." What??? I just don't buy the story, and if it is true, they are two of the most strange characters I've ever heard of.
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Boxmonkeyracing, i suggested the zl575 cause you can order it from chevy and get a legit warranty. and from the looks of pictures the hood that SLP 575 is very close looking to the z28 pictured on motor trend which said it was a go but from then on no other updates.

do you have a crystal ball on when the Z28 is coming out what specs do you think it will have and price. I really honestly donno much about this Z28 but just a hunch i think it would be around the same price of a Zl575.

also if the Camaro goes to the alpha chassis, im sure they will make a z28 but would it be the same as the ss. Prob more like a cts.v.
this is all guessing
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just because it looks like it doesn't make it so. and what I do know about the Z is about as much as everyone else here. I just have had my head down and watching the signs for a very long time on the camaro development and all the rumors and even the slight slip ups of GM reps here. and there are many slight slips. sometimes someone calls them on something and they don't respond ever again in that thread. . .So I assure you the Z28 is real. We just don't know anything about it yet because the General hasn't told us. In other words I'm pretty much keeping the faith. read my sig. that was stated long before they ever made the Z28 section.
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Boxmonkeyracing, i suggested the zl575 cause you can order it from chevy and get a legit warranty. and from the looks of pictures the hood that SLP 575 is very close looking to the z28 pictured on motor trend which said it was a go but from then on no other updates.

do you have a crystal ball on when the Z28 is coming out what specs do you think it will have and price. I really honestly donno much about this Z28 but just a hunch i think it would be around the same price of a Zl575.

also if the Camaro goes to the alpha chassis, im sure they will make a z28 but would it be the same as the ss. Prob more like a cts.v.
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Motor trend could have just seen a car with that hood and assumed it was the Z28. Or SLP decided to go and make their cars look like the TF2 Bumble Bee. Lots of other possible explanations.
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thanks for the history lesson. lol. but enough people in GM wanted it back to make the concept happen. once that happened and the reaction it got. It was going to be a no brainer.

but all I have to say is what scott said and kept saying "keep the faith."

The Z is coming guys, just wait and see. Hopefully by then ill have enough to upgrade
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I will keep my 2010 2SS RS IOM IO 6M Camaro waited since 67-69 keeping my daily driver
i am planning on building another garage though, if the Z28 comes out then both Camaros will have a nice quite dust free room of there own. in the mean time i will enjoy my 2010 Camaro until i hear what Chevrolet is going to do. if the Z28 is not built will buy another one leave the 2010 stock put supercharger suspension etc. on the new one take it to the track and "drive it like i stole it" i am having so much fun now i am afraid of being arrested!

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The Z-28 was slated to be released as a late 2011, but as of now got pushed back even further. More like 2012-2013. But G.M. still has it in the works. It will have the same engine as the Cadillac sts-v (556 h.p. 6.2 liter)supercharged. It most likely will only be offered in 6- speed manual as the automatic can't handle the power. Estimated top speed of 198 m.p.h.
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The Z-28 was slated to be released as a late 2011, but as of now got pushed back even further. More like 2012-2013. But G.M. still has it in the works. It will have the same engine as the Cadillac sts-v (556 h.p. 6.2 liter)supercharged. It most likely will only be offered in 6- speed manual as the automatic can't handle the power. Estimated top speed of 198 m.p.h.
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The Z-28 was slated to be released as a late 2011, but as of now got pushed back even further. More like 2012-2013. But G.M. still has it in the works. It will have the same engine as the Cadillac sts-v (556 h.p. 6.2 liter)supercharged. It most likely will only be offered in 6- speed manual as the automatic can't handle the power. Estimated top speed of 198 m.p.h.
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Just out of curiosity, what is it about the Z28 that would make you sell your SS and wait 2 years? Is it the styling, the power? I don't get it. You can get more power and performance with adding to the SS for what you will pay for the Z28. Just curious since the Z28 is still rumor and no exact details as to why you would give up and awesome car to wait so long.
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The source is direct from G.M. The z-28 is almost completed right now, but G.M. ran out of funding to finish and launch the car. Most of the funding G.M. has goes to complete cars like the 2011 convertible camaros. The camaro z-28 may have an automatic transmission, but the top speed would be limited to about 175 m.p.h. just like the ctsv. The manual would propel the car to speeds like that of the z06 vette.
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The source is direct from G.M. The z-28 is almost completed right now, but G.M. ran out of funding to finish and launch the car. Most of the funding G.M. has goes to complete cars like the 2011 convertible camaros. The camaro z-28 may have an automatic transmission, but the top speed would be limited to about 175 m.p.h. just like the ctsv. The manual would propel the car to speeds like that of the z06 vette.
the source.... seems just like the source that MotorTrend quoted a year or so ago when they said that the Z28 was dead in the water....

then they said it was back, then it was dead, then it was back,

direct from GM... direct from who at GM?
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To all you bashing my comments: Why not look into things for yourself instead of just going off the things you read on here. By the way, half of the sales people at the dealerships know less about the camaros than the people buying them. So talk to someone who actually knows something about the camaro.
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To all you bashing my comments: Why not look into things for yourself instead of just going off the things you read on here. By the way, half of the sales people at the dealerships know less about the camaros than the people buying them. So talk to someone who actually knows something about the camaro.
3 comments no credibility. . .and you obviously don't know us. because maybe we have been around long enough and know enough people that would be involved that won't really talk. seems like you are the one on thin ice right now.
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Does anyone else not see this story as BS? Dad takes an immediate loss on the brand new GS (hearing that the Z is a go??? [source?]), deciding he can do with out a vette for 2 yrs, then decides a used Camaro would fill the bill better than the GS. Meanwhile, son CAN NOT WAIT for the Z28, but easily gives up the SS to drive his Honda Accord for some unknown period of time until which GM may or may not build a more desirable Camaro. Can anyone honestly imagine having the SS, then saying, what the heck, they might build the Z, so I'm going to give up this BA car NOW so I can what, put myself thru penance for the unforeseeable future in the event the heavenly Z is built? Raising the BS flag...
Actually Dad didn't lose a cent GM took back the car under the 60 Day return policy haven't you heard of this promotion? Never said when my father took delivery. Used Camaro while it is technically used it had 1800 miles on it it was my weekend car not an everyday vehicle. I live in NY can't drive it from Nov till May with snow and salt on rooads. My cars when traded or sold are in immaculate condition like new! You can raise your flag all you want I believe that GM cannot stand to hear GT500 "king of the musclecar hill" anymore. The car will be out. We once heard there would never be a Camaro again. Just sold my '10 so it is what it is. I can wait I got nothing but time!
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The Z-28 was slated to be released as a late 2011, but as of now got pushed back even further. More like 2012-2013. But G.M. still has it in the works. It will have the same engine as the Cadillac sts-v (556 h.p. 6.2 liter)supercharged. It most likely will only be offered in 6- speed manual as the automatic can't handle the power. Estimated top speed of 198 m.p.h.
so the automatic in the CTS-V with higher vehicle weight wouldnt be up to snuff to stand behind the LSA? even tho it has proven to be the faster of the two transmissions in the CTS-V?

if/when GM releases this car, they wont be as close-minded as Chrysler is with their chally SRT-8 and only offer it with a manual. the chally barely sells 2000 units a month (if that)


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To all you ignorant D-bags bashing my comments: Why not look into things for yourself instead of just going off the things you read on here. By the way, half of the sales people at the dealerships know less about the camaros than the people buying them. So talk to someone who actually knows something about the camaro you bunch of waterheads.
really?

you want us to believe your posts... but then tell us not to just go off what we read here?



and we already know that dealerships know less than we do.
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Because obviously neither one of them knows how to exercise and restraint, and they have the money to do it.

Wish I was in the same position

Actually lets say the Z28 does come out in late 2011. Once that car is close to a release our SS will not be worth the same money they are today. Even now they are losing their value because GM isn't selling as many as they thought they would be. Go to a Chevy dealer in most places Camaros are in the lot. They are not moving right now whether it is because winter although that would only affect some states, the economy, etc... I don't want to lose my @ss when the car does come out and no one knows yeah maybe it does come out in 5 years, but if it is out soon than I made the right move. And if it isn't out for a couple of years I get to save till than. I don't need a sports car to survive. i'm content with driving my everyday car, my wife's truck, etc... My father lives 3 miles away if I get the itch I'll go drive his. But when the Z28 is out I'll have it all paid off.
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and we already know that dealerships know less than we do.
Dealerships know less than us because GM wants them to sell cars. If I walk into a Chevy dealer and I ask about a Z28 release and the salesman knows about it he will tell me and I'll wait. But, if GM doesn't tell them than the salesman will sell me a car on the lot. How many times do you hear about people going to dealers buying a car and than a better model comes out a year later or the model they bought is updated a year later and they get pissed at the dealer. Car companies want the cars they have made sold not future vehicles. If I buy a SS wanting a Z28 and the Z28 comes out GM wins either I sell the SS and buy a Z28 and GM just sold 2 cars. Or I just buy the SS and they at the least sold 1 def car. If they told me to wait for the Z28 there would be the possibility I walk away and buy a GT500, etc... It's called business!
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Chevrolet has already made over 90,000 Camaros and there are still about three months left in the model year.
I would guess that means around 120,000 units or more. I would say that is more than they originally anticipated. Does anyone know what the initial projections were for Camaro sales for the 2010 model?
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Why would you sell your Camaro? Why not wait till the Z28 is produced and sell it then? I mean unless you could find someone dumb enough to pay you what you paid or more you're taking a hit and you have no Camaro for at least a year. What ever makes you happy I guess.
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Actually lets say the Z28 does come out in late 2011. Once that car is close to a release our SS will not be worth the same money they are today. Even now they are losing their value because GM isn't selling as many as they thought they would be. Go to a Chevy dealer in most places Camaros are in the lot. They are not moving right now whether it is because winter although that would only affect some states, the economy, etc... I don't want to lose my @ss when the car does come out and no one knows yeah maybe it does come out in 5 years, but if it is out soon than I made the right move. And if it isn't out for a couple of years I get to save till than. I don't need a sports car to survive. i'm content with driving my everyday car, my wife's truck, etc... My father lives 3 miles away if I get the itch I'll go drive his. But when the Z28 is out I'll have it all paid off.
GM is set to sell more than they thought they would. Estimates before the Camaro went on sale were for 80,000. So far they are at about 70,000 sold with 85,000 built. The fact that there are cars on lots means that supply is catching up with demand. Typically a car will spend around 2-3 months on a lot before being sold, and I think the average for the Camaro is around 1 month.
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I just sold my IOM 2SS/RS to my father. He just got a '10 Corvette Convertible Grand Sport, but once he heard that the Z28 is a go, at the moment, and that the new Vette is only two years away he sold it. He wanted a toy and I was selling it anyway so he bought it. I also am waiting for the Z28 I know alot of people on here are still up in the air about GM building it, but I am one that believes it will be out at the end of 2011 so I am waiting. My dealer also heard from his rep that it's a very realistic timeframe that Oct/Nov 2011 as a 2012 model with the convertibles coming out Aug/Sept 2011 as a 2012. So hopefully we will know something soon and get some pics eventually so we can all gawk at it!
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Hey man, I am in the process of selling my 02 LS7 Camaro SS for a 2011 Z/28. I do not think you made a bad move at all. I already have my name in for one at Ron Davidson Chevrolet in Ebensburg PA. First on the list. From what I been told, if you want one of these get your name in early or else it will be tough to get one. Also work with a guy that is at the top of the food chain at the dealership.
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Hey man, I am in the process of selling my 02 LS7 Camaro SS for a 2011 Z/28. I do not think you made a bad move at all. I already have my name in for one at Ron Davidson Chevrolet in Ebensburg PA. First on the list. From what I been told, if you want one of these get your name in early or else it will be tough to get one. Also work with a guy that is at the top of the food chain at the dealership.

Thats the same spiel that the dealers were spouting when the camaro production was first announced. all they were doing was taking people's money and collecting interest on it till they were given allocations. then, in some cases, they took customer orders and sold them behind their backs to people willing to pay 2, 4, 5, 8, $10k+ msrp.
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