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Old 02-11-2010, 04:19 PM   #51
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actually...the dealer that I am buying it from did not tell me that. I talked to a well known poster on here about it.
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Old 02-11-2010, 04:35 PM   #52
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RE; Sold SS waiting for Z28

I work for a Chevrolet dealership in the parts department and just had to ask the question to our GM rep. Below is my question and his answer. He didn't answer everything, but this is a solid informant.

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Do you know if there is a Z28 Camaro in the works for the Camaro enthusiast?

If there is – What will it have?

Manual or Automatic?
Cadillac sts-v (556 h.p. 6.2 liter)supercharged?

Or is this just some body doing something like the Callaway guys are doing?

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That seems to be the 'hot rumor'

Even was asked as a question on one of our recent conference calls

No 'direct answer' but hint that we are in business to provide what the market demands.

The description below looks like someones 'pilot or one off'

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Old 02-11-2010, 05:15 PM   #55
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Chevrolet has already made over 90,000 Camaros and there are still about three months left in the model year.
I would guess that means around 120,000 units or more. I would say that is more than they originally anticipated. Does anyone know what the initial projections were for Camaro sales for the 2010 model?
From my vantage point I would say the Camaro has been a success. What makes the Z28 the holy grail?
Where are you going to drive 198 mph at in NY?
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Never said it wasn't a success. It outsells it's class. But I thhikn they expected them to leave the showrooms alot quicker than they have been nationally. I have been through 23 states since the Camaros release and for the last 4 months I have seen alot of Caamros on the lot whereas they were off the truck and purchased before that. and I never said the Z28 is the Holy Grail but I'm not gonig to sit here and debate that it is gonig to be a better performer. I belong to a Track Membership in Monticello, NY along with my father and some friends. I bring my cars there and race around the track for fun. The truth is right now I am blessed enough where I can afford to buy the Z28 and I want one. It's like if you can afford the C6 or Z06 and money is no object most would opt for the Z06 if they take the car to a racetrack. And I will enjoy my Accord it is a good car that's been good to me. My '10 SS is 3 miles away in my father's garage. And since I run his business for him I don't think he'll mind if I take it to the office if I feel like it!
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Old 02-11-2010, 05:23 PM   #56
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GM is set to sell more than they thought they would. Estimates before the Camaro went on sale were for 80,000. So far they are at about 70,000 sold with 85,000 built. The fact that there are cars on lots means that supply is catching up with demand. Typically a car will spend around 2-3 months on a lot before being sold, and I think the average for the Camaro is around 1 month.
Valid point but every dealer I havee stopped and asked including the dealer I do business with is sitting on Camaros for almost 2-3 months. My dealer has 3 SS and 2 V6. 2 - 2SS / 1 - 1SS / 1 - 2LT / 1 - 1LT. They have been sitting there for a very long time. Now in NY the winter market will not be as good as Summer and Spring so it's understandable. But I just got back from Florida and North Carolina and their dealers seem to have the same problem. I do not know what th answer is but the fact is supply and demand affects prices so yes maybe they have caught up to demand but a used Camaro when no dealer had them was worth more at auctions or on trades than they are now. Now give the car another model year and a potential Z28 on the market it will affect the car if the Z28 is priced where it should be. I'm not trying to make a problem here but as usual I catch crap from anyone on here. I could care less. I am not the only one in this boat!
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Old 02-11-2010, 05:32 PM   #57
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Just out of curiosity, what is it about the Z28 that would make you sell your SS and wait 2 years? Is it the styling, the power? I don't get it. You can get more power and performance with adding to the SS for what you will pay for the Z28. Just curious since the Z28 is still rumor and no exact details as to why you would give up and awesome car to wait so long.
Anytime you buy add ons you never get that money back in resale and for an aftermarket Camaro from Hennessey or ZL575, etc... You pay anywhere from $59k-$70k depending on options and the priginal car ordered. You are lucky to get half that 2-3 years down the road my brother learned that the hard way with his Mustangs: Roush and Saleen. Finally he opted for a GT500 with the same performance at a much cheaper price and better resale. If there is a Z28, since most of you on here doubt that it will exist at some point, it will be no more than $53k loaded I beleive and even that may be too much. A base Vette is in the low $50k and it cannot be near that price because they cannot compete with one another. GM has already said that if a Z28 were to exist it would not be at the Vette price. And an aftemarket Camaro is more than a Vette.
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dumb.............

shoulda keep the SS, sent it to Livermois or LM Speed or Hennessey for a 650 kit (which will kill a Z28) and enjoy it.

or just admit ya can't afford to keep it and not lie about it.
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Old 02-11-2010, 05:59 PM   #59
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I think there will be a 2012 Z28. The CTS-V coupe getting the green light may possibly be the best indication that a Z28 is on the way. Most of the parts will be right from the GM parts bin. Not to mention some people very high up the corporate latter (Ed Welburn) have spilled the beans. I wouldn't expect an official announcement till the end of the summer once the G'ment is paid back. I think the car is much more than a rumor. I wouldn't sell my SS yet, but I would bet money on the 2012 Z28.
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Old 02-11-2010, 06:08 PM   #60
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Can i ask a question? why didn't you just wait???

never thought of that
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Old 02-11-2010, 06:30 PM   #61
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But the new Z/28 is actually going to be the Holy Grail Of all Factory Camaros. Bottom line. This slap on a blower on your SS and you have yourself a Z/28 and be faster is getting old quick and boring. It will be nice to have something different and you won't see many on the streets.
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Valid point but every dealer I havee stopped and asked including the dealer I do business with is sitting on Camaros for almost 2-3 months. My dealer has 3 SS and 2 V6. 2 - 2SS / 1 - 1SS / 1 - 2LT / 1 - 1LT. They have been sitting there for a very long time. Now in NY the winter market will not be as good as Summer and Spring so it's understandable. But I just got back from Florida and North Carolina and their dealers seem to have the same problem. I do not know what th answer is but the fact is supply and demand affects prices so yes maybe they have caught up to demand but a used Camaro when no dealer had them was worth more at auctions or on trades than they are now. Now give the car another model year and a potential Z28 on the market it will affect the car if the Z28 is priced where it should be. I'm not trying to make a problem here but as usual I catch crap from anyone on here. I could care less. I am not the only one in this boat!

Okay here we go:

5 Camaros on a lot is not a huge problem, it's not like the 40 camry's sitting on a nearby toyota lot.... The car is selling. Of course the market will slow down in the winter if you live in a northern state. (I can't speak for the market in Southern states as i don't have experience in their sales patterns)

To your original post, It's your car if you want to sell it, sell it. I would have kept it for at least this year though, maybe next year too. And I have no idea why your pop would give back a new grand sport to go to the Camaro.
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very funny, making a lanyard does not qualify as "making" parts for the Camaro Z28 nice try

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But the new Z/28 is actually going to be the Holy Grail Of all Factory Camaros. Bottom line. This slap on a blower on your SS and you have yourself a Z/28 and be faster is getting old quick and boring. It will be nice to have something different and you won't see many on the streets.
amen. a Z28 isn't just a blower. it's heritage and hopefully they will focus on the suspension just as much as the engine. original Z28. . .
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Old 02-11-2010, 08:29 PM   #65
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Well said BoxMonkey. Atleast 2 other people see that now. It amazing how some people rip this guy apart selling his SS.

When your gonna own the most bitchin' Camaro ever built....sure you are gonna have your haters.
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Well said BoxMonkey. Atleast 2 other people see that now. It amazing how some people rip this guy apart selling his SS.

When your gonna own the most bitchin' Camaro ever built....sure you are gonna have your haters.
Its more about the timing ... why sell what you have now for something you won't have for a year and a half?
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Okay here we go:

5 Camaros on a lot is not a huge problem, it's not like the 40 camry's sitting on a nearby toyota lot.... The car is selling. Of course the market will slow down in the winter if you live in a northern state. (I can't speak for the market in Southern states as i don't have experience in their sales patterns)

To your original post, It's your car if you want to sell it, sell it. I would have kept it for at least this year though, maybe next year too. And I have no idea why your pop would give back a new grand sport to go to the Camaro.

I respect your opinion. And to answer the question about my father is he got rid of the Corvette because unlike me he drives his toy more than I do. I drive my toys once in a blue moon and on the track at Monticello. He drives his druring the winter, etc... The truth is the Corvette suspension is primitive unless you are on a track. Leaf springs are the Vette's weakest link not it's interior. But that is a completely different debate which I'm sure I will be flamed for. But i have owned many Vettes and that's my opinion. The Camaro is more comfortable and a much better overall car for your money.
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dumb.............

shoulda keep the SS, sent it to Livermois or LM Speed or Hennessey for a 650 kit (which will kill a Z28) and enjoy it.

or just admit ya can't afford to keep it and not lie about it.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but please don't guess what my financial situation is and I won't assume yours. Even if I couldn't afford it what did you gain by putting me down please have some respect and enjoy your SS I'll enjoy my Z28 when it comes out.
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I hope your wait isn't longer than what you feel is reasonable. I've been without my '02 for less than a year and I'm still going through withdrawls. I do hope Z28 gets here in the next couple years and am sure it won't disappoint Good luck on your wait
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I hope your wait isn't longer than what you feel is reasonable. I've been without my '02 for less than a year and I'm still going through withdrawls. I do hope Z28 gets here in the next couple years and am sure it won't disappoint Good luck on your wait
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but please don't guess what my financial situation is and I won't assume yours. Even if I couldn't afford it what did you gain by putting me down please have some respect and enjoy your SS I'll enjoy my Z28 when it comes out.
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Its more about the timing ... why sell what you have now for something you won't have for a year and a half?
That is what he wanted to do. So what if it is 1 1/2 away. That year and half will be here before you know it. The guy should not be nailed to a cross for making a decision. Honestly, what do you care if this guy sold his car?
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