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Old 09-04-2008, 12:05 AM   #1
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too many Mustangs!

On the Ford site, I was looking at pricing to compare with the recent rumors that the Camaro will cost $22k, which coincides with Premium Mustang prices.

Anyway, here's the link. These are all ordered from the factory. In other words, these are not special editions that are made by third parties. Isn't this about the worst possible business strategy? There are too many variations. Doesn't that bring up production costs?
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:27 AM   #2
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We don't get floor mats autographed by Carol Shelby? What a gyp! I did see a "Blackjack" edition one day on the road which looked pretty sweet and is pretty rare I guess. They do have some builds that are low production but they charge an arm and a leg.

Another thing is they overprice these cars anyway and then the dealers will discount it and be all WOW, WHAT A GREAT DEAL!!1111eleven
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On the Ford site, I was looking at pricing to compare with the recent rumors that the Camaro will cost $22k, which coincides with Premium Mustang prices.

Anyway, here's the link. These are all ordered from the factory. In other words, these are not special editions that are made by third parties. Isn't this about the worst possible business strategy? There are too many variations. Doesn't that bring up production costs?
You would think so, but since their strategy is a Ford in every driveway, they go the other way. Plus, if you noticed, all these "special editions" come with real tiny/shitty upgrades like colors, trim pieces, badges, etc. They still keep production down to a lesser degree because they essentially use the same car with a different name .
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According to my highly scientfic testing, Chix don't dig it much. Well maybe convertibles.

Yawn.. Unless it's a 65-72 it's boring.
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According to my highly scientfic testing, Chix don't dig it much. Well maybe convertibles.

Yawn.. Unless it's a 65-72 it's boring.
Chicks dig it, just not with guys in it. Women are one of the highest rankings in the Mustang demographic.
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:45 AM   #6
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Yeah, being able to tool up and make things in mass quantities actually lowers costs because they can spread the cost of say a new engine's development over the 140k cars they plan to sell with that engine and easily make their money back.

The Mustang seems like easy money when you look at it. They look good, have cheap interiors, cheap chassis (that's shared with a lincoln I believe) not to mention the chassis uses old simple technology, and a decent motor. That's why they can sell them so cheap. And people buy them because they're a decent value and look good.

I hate to bring it up but I think Car and Driver said "As usual, the Camaro will outperform and undersell the Mustang". Which is likely true. Hopefully the price of the Camaro is right and they compete with the Mustang in price and it's true to a lesser extent.
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I remember seeing on the wall of a drycleaners a sign which read:

"We have no quarrel with those who sell for less. They know what their product is worth".

Cheaper isn't always a good thing.
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I remember seeing on the wall of a drycleaners a sign which read:

"We have no quarrel with those who sell for less. They know what their product is worth".

Cheaper isn't always a good thing.
THEY might, but does the normally uninformed public know? Nope, that's why you see so many damn Mustangs out there.
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Old 09-04-2008, 01:01 AM   #9
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I'm with you. I believe the Mustang is worth what it costs. But I would rather pay Camaro money for GM engineering and performance. My experience with their cars has kept my expectations high. Camaros have always had badass performance. And with the improvements GM is making in the interior department I think they'll be the total package now.

Unfortunately for GM, a lot of people only see the numbers. The Mustang is 28k for a V8 model and they want the cheapest RWD platform to start with. A few extra grand for a Camaro may seem like a no brainer with 400hp though.
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The best part is the option on the bottom right: "Not sure".

And yes, I'm sure that the Camaro will outperform and undersell. Just so long as it sells enough to earn its keep, I'm fine with that. The discerning driver buys a Camaro. The rest just drive Mustangs.
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WHO THE F CARES ABOUT PREMIUM CRAP?

Just lump them all into one : V6 Coupe and vert, GT coupe and vert, GT500 coupe and vert, GT500kr, then the Bullitt. And then 8 models is still too much. the KR is a waste, imo. It makes a fugly KITT in attack mode.


The GT sucks. It's overpriced, and the base camaro can beat it. the V6 is totally underpowered and belongs in a Focus. Not a Mustang. Bullitt is probably the only one worth getting, but is still overpriced. GT500..... I have no problem with that.....
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On the Ford site, I was looking at pricing to compare with the recent rumors that the Camaro will cost $22k, which coincides with Premium Mustang prices.

Anyway, here's the link. These are all ordered from the factory. In other words, these are not special editions that are made by third parties. Isn't this about the worst possible business strategy? There are too many variations. Doesn't that bring up production costs?
This is an ignorant post. You do know that base and premium don't make it two different models right? So,we've got V6,GT,Bullitt,CS,GT500 and GT500KR....OH MY GOD......that's too many to count,i didn't know 5 was too many. The CS doesn't even count,it's just a stripe package,and the KR is too rare,so now we've got 4. V6,GT,Bullitt and GT500.........OH MY GOD......4 different Mustangs to choose from.........OH MY GOD......WHAT THE HELL IS FORD THINKING,giving people variation.....idiots.
Wha.....wait a minute,if we're being picky,what about the Camaro.Let's see,we've got LS,LT,RS,SS,SS/RS....Wait,let's not forget the Convertible.......LS,LT,RS,SS,SS/RS.......HOLY SHIT,that's too many Camaros to choose from,my tiny little petty little brain can't handle it,damn you GM.
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This is an ignorant post. You do know that base and premium don't make it two different models right? So,we've got V6,GT,Bullitt,CS,GT500 and GT500KR....OH MY GOD......that's too many to count,i didn't know 5 was too many. The CS doesn't even count,it's just a stripe package,and the KR is too rare,so now we've got 4. V6,GT,Bullitt and GT500.........OH MY GOD......4 different Mustangs to choose from.........OH MY GOD......WHAT THE HELL IS FORD THINKING,giving people variation.....idiots.
Wha.....wait a minute,if we're being picky,what about the Camaro.Let's see,we've got LS,LT,RS,SS,SS/RS....Wait,let's not forget the Convertible.......LS,LT,RS,SS,SS/RS.......HOLY SHIT,that's too many Camaros to choose from,my tiny little petty little brain can't handle it,damn you GM.
You're the ignorant one. Don't say the CS doesn't count. Ford put it up there as a model. You should know that the RS Package doesn't add another model to the lineup. RS package is an option- right next to options like leather seats and remote start. Maybe you need to remember the Convertibles in Ford's lineup. And yes. Convertibles mean another model added to the lineup:

V6 convertible
V6 coupe
GT convertible
GT coupe
GT500 convertible
GT500 coupe
V6 Pony Package (WTF?)
Bullitt
The KR does count. It's still a mustang. That's 9.
Not counting the V6 premium coupe, V6 premium convertible, GT premium coupe and GT premium convertible... again. I say WTF.

Camaro: LS (probably only a coupe) and LT Coupe and Convertible.
SS Coupe and Convertible.......
Yep. 5 doesn't seem like too much to count compared to your 14 Mudstains.
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