Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Dyno Max
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Tuning / Diagnostics -- engine and transmission

Tuning / Diagnostics -- engine and transmission Tune and diagnostics for engines and auto transmission.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-12-2010, 02:06 PM   #1
miltp
Jim Pappas
 
miltp's Avatar
 
Drives: Rally Yellow 2SS/RS,Auto,G/X
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Saugerties, N.Y.
Posts: 379
Diablosport Tune

When you do a tune in your camaro does it automaticly shut off the AFM and do torque management calibrations or is it somthing you have to do with a custum tune within your Diablo sport tuner. Thanks For the help, Jim
miltp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2010, 02:21 PM   #2
BlownSS

 
BlownSS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lincoln Nebraska
Posts: 1,759
I have the diablosport but also have a LS3...so what i can tell you is that there is a tune built into the diablosport and when you install it, it will give you some choices right before it loads the tune to your car.....one of these items is the AFM......on mine...it let me choose to turn of the skip shift. If you want to talk to somebody with great prices and a wealth of knowlege, pm or Call Jannetty Racing.....Ted is great to work with! Plus if you buy from him, and you decide to change something, he can help with remote tuning!
__________________
2010 IOM SS/RS LS3, Hennessey HPE550 Polished Magnuson TVS2300 Supercharger. 3.4 Pulley. Kooks long tube headers / high flow cats. GHL Full exhaust. ZL1 Fuel Pump/ADM FPCM. MSW Bap. JRE ZL1 Race cam with new springs/pushrods/Trunion Upgrade. FIC 850cc injectors. ZR1 Map sensor. CAI Induction. JRE Tune.
BlownSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2010, 02:27 PM   #3
hypurone
I'm not totally useless..
 
hypurone's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 SIM 2SS/RS A6 SC LPO Rallies
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Cali - NorthBay
Posts: 2,010
Send a message via AIM to hypurone Send a message via MSN to hypurone Send a message via Yahoo to hypurone
You have to turn it off manually. It is an option in the "modify tune" section. They call it DOD not AFM.

EDIT: There are NO torque management options other than to shut it off completely (IIRC). They state they have "optimized" them as part of their tunes.
__________________
"You were really flyin' when I passed you back there!" - Born on 10/05/09 MyCamaroBuildInfo
hypurone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2010, 02:49 PM   #4
06MonteSS
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2006 Monte Carlo SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 226
correct...

under Modify Tune, there is an option for the DOD where you can go in and disable it...

as for torque management, there are no end-user adjustable parameters for that - the engine TM is already reduced/removed in the tunes...
06MonteSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2010, 02:47 PM   #5
miltp
Jim Pappas
 
miltp's Avatar
 
Drives: Rally Yellow 2SS/RS,Auto,G/X
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Saugerties, N.Y.
Posts: 379
Thanks alot guys,just one more question though.Do you Manually put in the the changes you want first then put in the Diablo sport tune. Thanks for any help.
miltp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2010, 02:57 PM   #6
tony1
 
tony1's Avatar
 
Drives: 2SS/RS Vortech/L99
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CHICAGO
Posts: 473
if Torque management is removed does this cause any issues with the Tranny down the road or is this safe??
tony1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2010, 03:03 PM   #7
06MonteSS
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2006 Monte Carlo SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 226
Quote:
Originally Posted by miltp View Post
Thanks alot guys,just one more question though.Do you Manually put in the the changes you want first then put in the Diablo sport tune. Thanks for any help.
you can do it when you initially install the tune, or afterwards, doesn't matter...

if you want to make changes/adjustments after you've already installed one of the diablo tunes, you simply connect to your car, select the same diablo tune that you installed before, and then - instead of selecting Install Tune - you select Modify Tune... then scroll through the parameters to get to the parameters you want to modify... select the parameter menu/submenu, make your adjustment/change, press the Enter/Center button to save the change, then press the ESC button a few times to back out of the menus, and it will prompt you and ask "Install Tune Now?"...

answer/select YES, and it will install the diablo tune with the adjustments/changes you made to it...
06MonteSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2010, 03:05 PM   #8
06MonteSS
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2006 Monte Carlo SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 226
Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1 View Post
if Torque management is removed does this cause any issues with the Tranny down the road or is this safe??
None of the TM is removed/reduced in the tranny/TCM...

it is only reduced/removed on the engine-side of the tune so that you get the most allowable power available sent to the tranny/wheels...

and yes, it's safe...
06MonteSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2010, 03:41 PM   #9
miltp
Jim Pappas
 
miltp's Avatar
 
Drives: Rally Yellow 2SS/RS,Auto,G/X
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Saugerties, N.Y.
Posts: 379
Thanks alot MonteSS ,you answered all my questions.Its people like this that make these forums so great. Thanks again Jim
miltp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2010, 06:44 PM   #10
06MonteSS
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2006 Monte Carlo SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 226
cool...

np man, you're welcome...

06MonteSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2010, 08:52 PM   #11
Flynnaz
Wicked Camaro
 
Flynnaz's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 IOM 2SS/RS 1LE
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 2,413
Send a message via MSN to Flynnaz Send a message via Yahoo to Flynnaz Send a message via Skype™ to Flynnaz
I just installed my Predator Tune on my 2010 Camaro LS3. I only had two options, Diablo Tune and 91oct tune. Which one should I pick? I have a Airaid CAI, and Muffler delete.
Thanks for the help.
__________________

Mods so far: Ported Throttle Body/Airiad CAI/ Elite Oil Catch Can/Clutch reservoir separation Mod/Subthump/Foot well Lighting/RBG LED behind Grill/LED under Polished Strut Tower Brace/Vinyl Gill Blackouts/Skip Shift Eliminator/DYI Mild to Wild/AAC Plasma DRL's with Plug n Play harness/Blue LED Dome light, white LED trunk and Licence plate light/tinted windows/blacked out side markers and tail lights/Headlight Armor/Clear Bra/splash guards/Black Gorilla Locking Lug Nuts/Plastidipped Bow Ties and rear Tail Light Bezels/Emblem Pros Black Camaro letters/diodedynamics lighted cup holder (SS)
Flynnaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2010, 09:44 PM   #12
steeleshark2


 
steeleshark2's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Transformer 1SS Camaro
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Kingsland, Ga
Posts: 2,558
Diablo tune is 93 octane tune.
steeleshark2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2010, 10:01 PM   #13
06MonteSS
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2006 Monte Carlo SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 226
correct... what Steele said ^ ^ ^

the Diablo Tune is made for 93 octane gas... and then there's the 91 octane tune...

so, if you have access to, and use, good 93 octane gas in your car, install the Diablo Tune...

but if you're area is like California and only has 91 octane gas available, then install the 91 octane tune...
06MonteSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2010, 10:11 PM   #14
Flynnaz
Wicked Camaro
 
Flynnaz's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 IOM 2SS/RS 1LE
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 2,413
Send a message via MSN to Flynnaz Send a message via Yahoo to Flynnaz Send a message via Skype™ to Flynnaz
Thank you, I live in AZ, so I am good with the 91 oct tune, how do I take out the skip shift? Is it the CAGS On/Off setting?
__________________

Mods so far: Ported Throttle Body/Airiad CAI/ Elite Oil Catch Can/Clutch reservoir separation Mod/Subthump/Foot well Lighting/RBG LED behind Grill/LED under Polished Strut Tower Brace/Vinyl Gill Blackouts/Skip Shift Eliminator/DYI Mild to Wild/AAC Plasma DRL's with Plug n Play harness/Blue LED Dome light, white LED trunk and Licence plate light/tinted windows/blacked out side markers and tail lights/Headlight Armor/Clear Bra/splash guards/Black Gorilla Locking Lug Nuts/Plastidipped Bow Ties and rear Tail Light Bezels/Emblem Pros Black Camaro letters/diodedynamics lighted cup holder (SS)

Last edited by Flynnaz; 02-17-2010 at 11:19 PM.
Flynnaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2010, 07:54 AM   #15
06MonteSS
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2006 Monte Carlo SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 226
yes... set the CAGs to off...

hook up to your car... select the same tune you installed before (91 octane tune), then select Modify Tune... go into CAGs, highlight OFF, press the center enter button to save the change, then press the ESC button a few times and it will ask you "Install tune now?" - answer/select YES and it will install the tune change you made...
06MonteSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2010, 07:56 AM   #16
2010 SSRS



 
2010 SSRS's Avatar
 
Drives: 3 V8 Camaros
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Ocean State
Posts: 123,973
nice
2010 SSRS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2010, 09:10 AM   #17
Flynnaz
Wicked Camaro
 
Flynnaz's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 IOM 2SS/RS 1LE
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 2,413
Send a message via MSN to Flynnaz Send a message via Yahoo to Flynnaz Send a message via Skype™ to Flynnaz
Thank you for all the help everyone
__________________

Mods so far: Ported Throttle Body/Airiad CAI/ Elite Oil Catch Can/Clutch reservoir separation Mod/Subthump/Foot well Lighting/RBG LED behind Grill/LED under Polished Strut Tower Brace/Vinyl Gill Blackouts/Skip Shift Eliminator/DYI Mild to Wild/AAC Plasma DRL's with Plug n Play harness/Blue LED Dome light, white LED trunk and Licence plate light/tinted windows/blacked out side markers and tail lights/Headlight Armor/Clear Bra/splash guards/Black Gorilla Locking Lug Nuts/Plastidipped Bow Ties and rear Tail Light Bezels/Emblem Pros Black Camaro letters/diodedynamics lighted cup holder (SS)
Flynnaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2010, 10:39 AM   #18
06MonteSS
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2006 Monte Carlo SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 226
np man, you're welcome!

06MonteSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2010, 04:02 AM   #19
Black LS3
 
Black LS3's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Black 2SS LS3
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Cape Coral, Florida Lets Ride.
Posts: 128
Quote:
Originally Posted by billyjk7 View Post
I have the diablosport but also have a LS3...so what i can tell you is that there is a tune built into the diablosport and when you install it, it will give you some choices right before it loads the tune to your car.....one of these items is the AFM......on mine...it let me choose to turn of the skip shift. If you want to talk to somebody with great prices and a wealth of knowlege, pm or Call Jannetty Racing.....Ted is great to work with! Plus if you buy from him, and you decide to change something, he can help with remote tuning!
What Options would you be able to call them about to have Changed?

Did you buy the PC Cable and Extra Power Cable in order to do Internet Updates?

That totally blows that it doesnt come with those Cables and Power Adapter,... That's an extra $40 on the site that I saw it for sale on.

My PC doesnt even have those old Com 1 or Com 2 Serial Ports any longer so you pretty much have to buy the Serial to USB Adpater Cable,... I dont know if any of the Misc Adapters I have laying around here would work with that Tuner or Not.

I'm having to Return my SC Cortex Tuner (Read About The Problem I was Having If You Wish http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64902 )

But I'm thinking about getting the Diable Tuner in Exchange. I also have a AirAid CAI and Custom Exhaust done,... Are there any Special Tunes for people who have added those sort of things to their 2SS?

Jim
__________________
OnlineAutorama.US - A Camaro Parts/Accessories Site for Dealers & Vendors.
Muffler Delete. ( See Videos - Vid 1. - Vid 2. )
Stock Resonators & H-Pipe Removed.
Magnaflow 2.50" Tru-X X-Pipe.
AirAid Cold Air Intake System.

11.21.09 1100 Order Accepted At Dealer - 11.24.09 2000 Accepted At GM - 11.25.09 2500 Preferenced - 12.03.09 3000 Production Control Notes: 01/11/2010 - 12.17.09 3400 Order Broadcast - 01.13.10 3800 Order Produced VIN # 2G1FT1E - 01.25.10 4000 Available to Ship from Rail Yard by Truck - 01.27.10 5000 Delivered to the Dealership - 01-27-10 6000 Delivered to Customer.
Black LS3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2010, 09:21 AM   #20
06MonteSS
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2006 Monte Carlo SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 226
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black LS3 View Post
My PC doesnt even have those old Com 1 or Com 2 Serial Ports any longer so you pretty much have to buy the Serial to USB Adpater Cable,... I dont know if any of the Misc Adapters I have laying around here would work with that Tuner or Not.

But I'm thinking about getting the Diable Tuner in Exchange. I also have a AirAid CAI and Custom Exhaust done,... Are there any Special Tunes for people who have added those sort of things to their 2SS?

Jim
no special tunes are needed for GM's like they are for fords or chryslers with that setup like you have...

after installing a diablo tune and putting on about 100 miles, you can do some data logging and get your fueling adjusted correctly so that your average ltft's are in the 0 to -2 range... doing so will give you even quicker throttle response, better acceleration, stronger/harder pull, and better mileage to boot!

here's info on how to do that:

http://diablosport.com/index.php?nam...iewtopic&t=917


as for the cables, you can get/use a USB to serial cable (make sure the drivers are installed for it), and the power supply needed is a 12v 1 amp power supply (2.5x5.5mm tip, center is positive)
06MonteSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2010, 10:21 AM   #21
Black LS3
 
Black LS3's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Black 2SS LS3
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Cape Coral, Florida Lets Ride.
Posts: 128
Quote:
Originally Posted by 06MonteSS View Post
no special tunes are needed for GM's like they are for fords or chryslers with that setup like you have...

after installing a diablo tune and putting on about 100 miles, you can do some data logging and get your fueling adjusted correctly so that your average ltft's are in the 0 to -2 range... doing so will give you even quicker throttle response, better acceleration, stronger/harder pull, and better mileage to boot!

here's info on how to do that:

http://diablosport.com/index.php?nam...iewtopic&t=917


as for the cables, you can get/use a USB to serial cable (make sure the drivers are installed for it), and the power supply needed is a 12v 1 amp power supply (2.5x5.5mm tip, center is positive)

Do all of the Diablo Tuners have this Ability or do you need the Higher End Models?

I saw a post somewhere at one time that gave you the Model # of the AC Adapter and USB Cable from Radio Shack, I think the price was like $15 Bucks or something, I dont remember the price actually,...
You dont happen to know that Information right off hand do ya?

Thanks for the link to that information, I added that to my favories forsure.
__________________
OnlineAutorama.US - A Camaro Parts/Accessories Site for Dealers & Vendors.
Muffler Delete. ( See Videos - Vid 1. - Vid 2. )
Stock Resonators & H-Pipe Removed.
Magnaflow 2.50" Tru-X X-Pipe.
AirAid Cold Air Intake System.

11.21.09 1100 Order Accepted At Dealer - 11.24.09 2000 Accepted At GM - 11.25.09 2500 Preferenced - 12.03.09 3000 Production Control Notes: 01/11/2010 - 12.17.09 3400 Order Broadcast - 01.13.10 3800 Order Produced VIN # 2G1FT1E - 01.25.10 4000 Available to Ship from Rail Yard by Truck - 01.27.10 5000 Delivered to the Dealership - 01-27-10 6000 Delivered to Customer.
Black LS3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2010, 11:19 AM   #22
06MonteSS
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2006 Monte Carlo SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 226
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black LS3 View Post
Do all of the Diablo Tuners have this Ability or do you need the Higher End Models?

I saw a post somewhere at one time that gave you the Model # of the AC Adapter and USB Cable from Radio Shack, I think the price was like $15 Bucks or something, I dont remember the price actually,...
You dont happen to know that Information right off hand do ya?

Thanks for the link to that information, I added that to my favories forsure.
do they all have the ability to data log and make those adjustments?? yes...

for the power supply:

Power Adapter:
CLASS 2 TRANSFORMER
OUTPUT : 12VDC 1000mA (1 Amp)(Radio Shack Part # 273-1776)
Note: Plug Tip is 2.5mm x 5.5mm, female, and center is positive.(Radio Shack Part # 273-1717)

Radio Shack normally carries both of these items. Most Wal-Marts have the Power Adapter (multi output version).
06MonteSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2010, 04:15 AM   #23
Black LS3
 
Black LS3's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Black 2SS LS3
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Cape Coral, Florida Lets Ride.
Posts: 128
Quote:
Originally Posted by 06MonteSS View Post
do they all have the ability to data log and make those adjustments?? yes...

for the power supply:

Power Adapter:
CLASS 2 TRANSFORMER
OUTPUT : 12VDC 1000mA (1 Amp)(Radio Shack Part # 273-1776)
Note: Plug Tip is 2.5mm x 5.5mm, female, and center is positive.(Radio Shack Part # 273-1717)

Radio Shack normally carries both of these items. Most Wal-Marts have the Power Adapter (multi output version).
Thanks for the Information but theres one problems,...

I can't find this part 273-1776 anywhere.
The ONLY one that I can find is this one,... 273-316 for $20 Bucks.

Hell,... by the time you pay for the AC Adapter and the Plug tip your already at $27 without Tax and without the Serial to USB Cable.

The only one i can find on their website is the Palm GUC232A USB/Serial Adapter for Mac and I have a PC not a Mac, That alone is $40 which is a pretty Crazy price so now your at $67.00.
__________________
OnlineAutorama.US - A Camaro Parts/Accessories Site for Dealers & Vendors.
Muffler Delete. ( See Videos - Vid 1. - Vid 2. )
Stock Resonators & H-Pipe Removed.
Magnaflow 2.50" Tru-X X-Pipe.
AirAid Cold Air Intake System.

11.21.09 1100 Order Accepted At Dealer - 11.24.09 2000 Accepted At GM - 11.25.09 2500 Preferenced - 12.03.09 3000 Production Control Notes: 01/11/2010 - 12.17.09 3400 Order Broadcast - 01.13.10 3800 Order Produced VIN # 2G1FT1E - 01.25.10 4000 Available to Ship from Rail Yard by Truck - 01.27.10 5000 Delivered to the Dealership - 01-27-10 6000 Delivered to Customer.
Black LS3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2010, 09:05 AM   #24
06MonteSS
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2006 Monte Carlo SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 226
yeah man... dunno... those could be old radio shack numbers....

don't go by the part numbers...

just go by the power adapter specs and find one that is the same...

12VDC - 1 Amp - Plug Tip is 2.5mm x 5.5mm, female, and center is positive.
06MonteSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2010, 09:32 AM   #25
brtaus
 
brtaus's Avatar
 
Drives: None
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 577
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black LS3 View Post
Did you buy the PC Cable and Extra Power Cable in order to do Internet Updates?

That totally blows that it doesnt come with those Cables and Power Adapter,... That's an extra $40 on the site that I saw it for sale on.

My PC doesnt even have those old Com 1 or Com 2 Serial Ports any longer so you pretty much have to buy the Serial to USB Adpater Cable,... I dont know if any of the Misc Adapters I have laying around here would work with that Tuner or Not.

Jim
If you buy the Predator through Brandon at Maryland Speed, they throw in the PC interface kit for free.
brtaus is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Official 1/4 Mile (V8) 2010+ Camaro Fast List Merc Dragstrip and Launch Techniques Discussion 2816 12-23-2014 12:44 PM
Unofficial 1/4 Mile (V8) 2010+ Camaro Fast List Merc Dragstrip and Launch Techniques Discussion 250 04-01-2014 11:40 AM
Diablosport Trinity: New Lower Price $599 @ BMC Performance Kris@BMCPerformance V8 Bolt-Ons & Tunes 11 02-18-2010 08:00 PM
which vendors will INCLUDE a custom tune with purchase of diablosport predator? Mustang Killa Tuning / Diagnostics -- engine and transmission 7 02-11-2010 09:41 AM
LS3 goes 11`s Bonestock! GMRULZ Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 28 12-08-2008 10:10 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.