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Old 02-16-2010, 05:24 PM   #1
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KIDS AND KOPS TOGETHER EVERY DAY

HEY CAMARO5..... Pls give me your comments and feedback to my project of having kids and kops together every day in every Canadian school

PROJECT : La Fondation Kid Kop Foundation......

WHO?
Police officers and students


What?

Have a small office at the main entrance of every Canadian school with the sign

.............."Protected by your local police " ...................

with the help of car manufacturers, car dealers, petroleum companies, coffee producers, distributors as well as food distributors, restaurants and coffee shops


Where?
In all Canadian schools


Why?
To:
1 Improve kid and kop relations
2 Improve the everyday lives of our kids and our kops
3 Reduce school entry by intruders
4 Reduce loss of life of KIDS and KOPS


HOW?
As part of their routine, all police officers must drop in at a school at least once per day.
The school principal makes sure that a fresh pot of coffee is always brewing in the small police office.
Kops can be at bus stops in the morning or in the afternoon, can take a walk around the school, can even have lunch in the student cafeteria. The sky's the limit with no minimum and no maximum. The key is visibility even if only for a minute or two while kids are growing up from 5-15.

WHEN?
Before the next tragedy :upset:


PS MAYBE THE NEXT TIME A GUY POINTS A GUN AT A KOP ....HE MIGHT ACTUALLY NOT PULL THE TRIGGER AS HE MAY HAVE A FLASHBACK TO HIS YOUTH!

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Old 02-17-2010, 08:53 AM   #2
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CAMARO5 COMMUNITY SUGGESTIONS WANTED : WAYS TO BRING KIDS AND KOPS TOGETHER ON A DAILY BASIS .

I have been working on a societal project to:

1 Improve the lives of our kids and our kops
2 Improve the relations between the two groups
3 Increase school security without much cost

Any ideas would be welcomed keeping in mind where kids and kops spend most of their day during the week

THANK YOU
Great idea! In Montreal we have a bike squad where officers learn how to maintain and repair bikes.Well when spring appeared the officers did a bike clinic where all the kids were invited to show up with there bikes and the officers gave them safety tips (deflectors missing etc etc) and tuned the bikes up for the the kids for the summer(tightened chains,air in tires etc).Kids loved it and they had our cavalry division show up too, soo needless to say it was a great event.
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Ohhh forgot too mention this was a local initiative.It wasnt what we call "corporate".We did this from our neighbourhood police station and our 4 bike patrollers.
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Excellent initiative ! This is so important to build relationships with the kids as they grow up! You guys need the respect from young kids ...boys.... early in life before they grow up and become a problem!
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Ohhh forgot too mention this was a local initiative.It wasnt what we call "corporate".We did this from our neighbourhood police station and our 4 bike patrollers.

The idea is to have every police officer visit at least one Canadian school every day even for just a minute, perhaps have a free coffee and say Hi to some of the staff and students!

In 2006 , a girl was killed on the job in Montreal.

Her mom asked me to get some recognition and some compensation for her daughter from the employer.

The approach I used with the employer in June 2008 ,was one of out of court friendly approach ..........a foundation in the name of her daughter of $10 for every Canadian kid.

Three months later, the employer gave 100 000$ , a drop in the bucket for this big gas company from the Netherlands.

Our minister of education and of justice as well as your police director were impressed with the approach and with the 100 000 result.

The 45 Police officers spoken to so far like the idea.

The foundation would help pay for a small office at the main entrance of every Canadian educational institution.

I hope to approach the big Canadian coffee establishments to help this idea come to fruition.

My background is education :16 yrs as a Pe teacher and 16 yrs as a HS VP.
I took police force entrance exams before deciding to teach PE.


I would appreciate feedback and ideas from my Camaro5 North American friends

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Old 02-21-2010, 05:16 PM   #6
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So i take it you mean bridging the gap between our youth and police officers (Cops)?

Well it soo happens to be that i am an active volunteer for Peel Police. Our goal is to bridge the gap between members of our community and our officers.
Being 18, i have always had alot of respect for our officers, but i do know alot of teenagers who dont.
Im part of the events sub commitee as well and we have already set up 6 events this year. All of which youth and general members will be able to approach and talk to our fellow officers and build relationships.
As for the small offices in schools, its a great idea however im not sure it is very feaseable although i hope we can make it happen, it is a great idea.
In our division, we have NPUs, which are neighborhood policing units for those who dont know. These officers are each assigned a specific school or two in which they attend/montior/educate.
These officers are based there and their presence is great. My school NPU was a great Police officer. We ended up forming a great relationship and he stated that he would be my reference for when i apply for Peel Police.
Your idea is great and i would love to help make it happen.
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Hey thats great .

However..Community police officers in Quebec are assigned to only certain troubled schools.
Its an after the fact approach which is to keep a lid on things.
Its preventative but again only after an serious incident of violence or drug problem that the school administration cannot stop.

Im glad you understand where im coming from in terms of bridging the gap.
What im trying to achieve is many many things

Basically:
If 5-12 old KIDS see and say hi or wave to a KOP everyday at school ,say a minimum few seconds at the bus drop off in the am and KOPS see many kids every day and then they visit those same kids high school when there 12-16 yr old ,
those kids and those Kops will have grown up together.
ITS REALLY THAT SIMPLE.... YOU will then have the majority of each group (KIDS and KOPS) have a real appreciation for each other....the sky is the limit with positive outcomes including less dead kids and less dead kops !


I will be approaching TIM HORTON's at one point to get things brewing
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So i take it you mean bridging the gap between our youth and police officers (Cops)?

Well it soo happens to be that i am an active volunteer for Peel Police. Our goal is to bridge the gap between members of our community and our officers.
Being 18, i have always had alot of respect for our officers, but i do know alot of teenagers who dont.
Im part of the events sub commitee as well and we have already set up 6 events this year. All of which youth and general members will be able to approach and talk to our fellow officers and build relationships.
As for the small offices in schools, its a great idea however im not sure it is very feaseable although i hope we can make it happen, it is a great idea.
In our division, we have NPUs, which are neighborhood policing units for those who dont know. These officers are each assigned a specific school or two in which they attend/montior/educate.
These officers are based there and their presence is great. My school NPU was a great Police officer. We ended up forming a great relationship and he stated that he would be my reference for when i apply for Peel Police.
Your idea is great and i would love to help make it happen.
DID U hear about the lockdown at a HS in Quebec yesterday.
The school was in that lockdown mode for over 4 hours because a teen had what appeared to be a gun.:upset::upset:

The problem with the Quebec ministry of Education is that they leave it up to individual school boards to govern school access. In December a local news station went into 6 diffrent high schools with a hidden camera and only 1 out of 6 schools questionned the news guy who by that point was well into the building!

I guess they just dont get it yet. Maybe when a politician's child gets hurt by an intruder that the gov will react.

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The idea is to have every police officer visit at least one Canadian school every day even for just a minute, perhaps have a free coffee and say Hi to some of the staff and students!
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HEY CAMARO5..... What do you think?.... ideas and feedback appreciated

WHO?
Police officers and students

What?
Have a small office at the main entrance of every Canadian school with the sign

.............."Protected by your local police force" ...................

with the help of car manufacturers/dealers, petroleum companies, coffee producers/distributors and food distributors/restaurants



Where?
In all Canadian schools

Why?
To:
1 Improve kid and kop relations

2 Improve the everyday lives of our kids and our kops
3 Reduce school entry by intruders

4 Reduce loss of life of KIDS and KOPS


How?

Police officers must drop in once per day as part of their routine.


WHEN?
Before the next tragedy :upset:


Small picture of some of the violence in Canada :
Age of most victims* 17-25
Age of most officers 23-29

1987 Montreal...............Anthony Griffin...and detective G.
1989 Polytechnique...... 23 victims.........and Marc L.
2005 Toronto .............. Jane Creba........and street gang
2006 Montreal.............. Brigitte Serre.....and Sebastien S.
2006 Montreal Dawson.. .20 victims.........and Kimveer G.
2006 Alberta..................4 Officers.........and ?
2007 Laval....................Officer Gignac....and ?
2008 Laval................... Officer Tessier...and P.
2008 Montreal...............Freddy V...........and officer L.
2009 ??


53 victims
28 deceased

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It would be nice to get some feedback ...........
I'm not sure exactly what kind of feedback you're looking for but my kids high school have 2 officers assigned to it. They are there at least once a day (sometimes more) and are always available for the kids while there. My kids know them by name (not sure if that's good lol) and i have met them as well. Overall i am satisfied with the amount of time and effort put into making sure that the police have a presence in my kids school. I'm not sure if this program is unique to Brampton, peel region or Ontario for that matter but i think it makes a real difference.

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I'm not sure exactly what kind of feedback you're looking for but my kids high school have 2 officers assigned to it. They are there at least once a day (sometimes more) and are always available for the kids while there. My kids know them by name (not sure if that's good lol) and i have met them as well. Overall i am satisfied with the amount of time and effort put into making sure that the police have a presence in my kids school. I'm not sure if this program is unique to Brampton, peel region or Ontario for that matter but i think it makes a real difference.

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Hey Ken :All feedback to the idea is welcome!!

What was the reason that your kids school has 2 police officers assigned to it?

I'd also like to hear from police officers on my project idea. So far every KOP that I've talked to wants the project to come to fruition...Trying to get kops to know kids as they grow up in elementary school and then as teens in high school is the key...to their success.

Kops assigned to a school is due to previous criminal activity such as dope and violence.

My project is much more than that.......


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Hey Ken :All feedback to the idea is welcome!!

What was the reason that your kids school has 2 police officers assigned to it?

I'd also like to hear from police officers on my project idea. So far every KOP that I've talked to wants the project to come to fruition...Trying to get kops to know kids as they grow up in elementary school and then as teens in high school is the key...to their success.

Kops assigned to a school is due to previous criminal activity such as dope and violence.

My project is much more than that.......

All peel region high schools have officers assigned. I will assume it is a peel region specific program if you don't have it in your municipality.

from the peel police web site "Neighbourhood Policing Unit (N.P.U.) is responsible for policing the secondary schools within the Region of Peel. Seminars are conducted on Bullying, Cyber proofing,Police Recruiting and general policing topics."

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All peel region high schools have officers assigned. I will assume it is a peel region specific program if you don't have it in your municipality.

from the peel police web site "Neighbourhood Policing Unit (N.P.U.) is responsible for policing the secondary schools within the Region of Peel. Seminars are conducted on Bullying, Cyber proofing,Police Recruiting and general policing topics."

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HEY CAMARO5..... Pls give me your comments and feedback to my project of having kids and kops together every day in every Canadian school

PROJECT : La Fondation Kid Kop Foundation......

WHO?
Police officers and students


What?

Have a small office at the main entrance of every Canadian school with the sign

.............."Protected by your local police " ...................

with the help of car manufacturers, car dealers, petroleum companies, coffee producers, distributors as well as food distributors, restaurants and coffee shops



Where?
In all Canadian schools


Why?
To:
1 Improve kid and kop relations
2 Improve the everyday lives of our kids and our kops
3 Reduce school entry by intruders
4 Reduce loss of life of KIDS and KOPS


HOW?
As part of their routine, all police officers must drop in at a school at least once per day.
The school principal makes sure that a fresh pot of coffee is always brewing in the small police office.
Kops can be at bus stops in the morning or in the afternoon, can take a walk around the school, can even have lunch in the student cafeteria. The sky's the limit with no minimum and no maximum. The key is visibility even if only for a minute or two while kids are growing up from 5-15.
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WHEN?
Before the next tragedy :upset:


PS MAYBE THE NEXT TIME A GUY POINTS A GUN AT A KOP ....HE MIGHT ACTUALLY NOT PULL THE TRIGGER AS HE MAY HAVE A FLASHBACK TO HIS YOUTH!

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I guess my Camaro friends in Montreal are speechless....
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Well I thought you had enough info already...all the ideas are good and the ones that have the police already is because it`s probably a problemed school..
My daughter was at Dawsons school when the shooting happened a few years back. If its going to happen it will, no matter what...but like you said it would minimize the occasions(shootings / Fights) with some sort of Police appearance...
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Well I thought you had enough info already...all the ideas are good and the ones that have the police already is because it`s probably a problemed school..
My daughter was at Dawsons school when the shooting happened a few years back. If its going to happen it will, no matter what...but like you said it would minimize the occasions(shootings / Fights) with some sort of Police appearance...


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Well in montreal all the community police stations have 2--4 ``agent socio-communautaire``There job is to be in schools on a regular basis and interact in a positive fashion.Prevention is the key!.They seem to be realy appreciated by the school boards and by the principals of these schools.many a time ive recieved calls about them just too say how much they appreciated their presence.
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Well in montreal all the community police stations have 2--4 ``agent socio-communautaire``There job is to be in schools on a regular basis and interact in a positive fashion.Prevention is the key!.They seem to be realy appreciated by the school boards and by the principals of these schools.many a time ive recieved calls about them just too say how much they appreciated their presence.

Yes they are very much appreciated when there is a obvious need or recent hot situation.
Community police officers are there to work with a handful of troubled youth and to appease occasionally violent racial tensions and street gang activity in the area of a school.
It's preventative but it's after the fact. Let me explain.

When things are quiet, police officers leave. When things are hot ,police officers return as they are there to prevent....further situations and insure that everyone "feels" safe for a while.The problem is that they will soon leave afterwards.
The problem is that the majority or 95%of the student population,ie the good kids don't see or talk to the kops on a regular basis.
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Example:Last year 6 SQ police cars secured two attached high schools on April 9th. One french and one english because of the threat of school shooting.Then the the next school day only one car came by.Then after that nothing.

KOPS GO TO MONTREAL AND LAVAL SCHOOLS only when the principal dials 911 .
As a HS VP, we have had to call KOPS between 12-20 times a year for dope , violence , students with knives (3-16'') and guns usualy 9mm and 38mm.

The problem is that anyone also off the street can walk into the schools as most high schools doors (5-10) remain unlocked. But that's another issue .

What I am trying to get people to see.... and it's not easy is that why not make life better for kids and kops every day.

Imagine 5,6,7,8,9,10,11, year old kids say hi every day at their bus stop to a police officer in or out of uniform for 200 days a year throughout elementary school.
Then when those kids are now 12, 13 14,15 and if the police officers continue to stop in every day for another 200 days throughout the high school years ,those good kids (95% of 2000 in large schools) will appreciate their local kops so much so that the sky is the limit with this potential.

I know now that after being a VP and a teacher and almost a kop myself, that this is absolutely necessary in today's society of one or multi parent families where the boys are getting more and more pissed off and grow up to be more and more frustrated.

I just cant figure out how to get the message across without being long winded. Its frustrating.

Thats why Im asking camaro5 for feedback to see if my message is clear or not. I'm getting there ....I think


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