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Old 02-19-2010, 10:14 AM   #1
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Rear camber kit "is it me or....."

Im looking at dropping my camaro with the h&r drop springs and i was reading up on camber issues on the rear once you do the drop. I started searching for camber kits and the only one that i found is the Pedders kit which is around $200. Im not knocking Pedders but $200 for basically four bolts, that sounds really crazy. You would think that these companies that offer lowering coils would also offer a camber kit to correct the issue. Am i nuts for thinking the price is high or do you agree.
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Old 02-19-2010, 10:18 AM   #2
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Yes, that's very high! From the threads I read at the time, it seemed like this wasn't necessary though - at least not the kit, that you could do it much cheaper yourself. I don't remember where those threads were though... :(
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Old 02-19-2010, 10:26 AM   #3
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well if anyone can help me out with a cheaper way it would greatly be appreciated. Ive searched but i cant find anything.
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Old 02-19-2010, 03:57 PM   #4
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wow no input of other ideas.
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Old 02-19-2010, 03:59 PM   #5
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Just wait a few weeks, deal with it being as close as you can get with factory alignment and pick up the BMR control arms that are adjustable when they become available. Probably cheaper than the bolts from Pedders...
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Old 02-19-2010, 04:03 PM   #6
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Just wait a few weeks, deal with it being as close as you can get with factory alignment and pick up the BMR control arms that are adjustable when they become available. Probably cheaper than the bolts from Pedders...
Exactly what I was thinking. The BMR adjustable pieces will solve your issues, and help your handling/traction at the same time.
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Old 02-19-2010, 05:21 PM   #7
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I too think Pedders is high but you do recieve like 20 different alignment bolts. I am not sure what they are all for but there are alot of them in the kit. I am waiting on BMR.
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Old 02-19-2010, 05:31 PM   #8
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any ideas when bmr will be releasing the control arms
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Old 02-19-2010, 08:09 PM   #9
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There is a reason that Pedders bolts are the price they are, They are welded way better than the stock bolts are, and won't strip the eccentric like the stock ones do. They are stronger than stock bolts, they are plated unlike stock.

These bolts also allow much more adjustment than the stock parts.

The stock bolts are not cheap either, i had to buy a couple sets a while ago when we had a G8 in the shop with one of the eccentrics stripped.
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There's quite a bit of machining done to the bolts as well, they're not something you're gonna find at your local hardware store.
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Old 02-21-2010, 01:06 PM   #11
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There are 3 different kits to meet your needs:

1. Fronts to give you caster increases of 1 to 1.25 degrees plus infinite adjustability within its range plus a allen nut with lock tight to assist in more camber adjustability. It has a allen head to help keep the extension more controlled when adjusting cambers, to assist in reducing the contact possible on your wheels

2. Rears to give you a much greater range of adjustability for camber and toe, and significantly increases the strengh of the eccentrics to the custom made bolts.

3. Complete kit for front and rears

The eccentrics are laser cut not stamped, and everything is cad plated. Also all the kits include secondary locking nuts for added security.There is a rather serious amount of work that goes in to making these kits.









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Old 02-21-2010, 01:12 PM   #12
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There is a reason that Pedders bolts are the price they are, They are welded way better than the stock bolts are, and won't strip the eccentric like the stock ones do. They are stronger than stock bolts, they are plated unlike stock.

These bolts also allow much more adjustment than the stock parts.

The stock bolts are not cheap either, i had to buy a couple sets a while ago when we had a G8 in the shop with one of the eccentrics stripped.
Does this apply to the V6 drop springs as well?
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Old 02-21-2010, 01:13 PM   #13
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Does this apply to the V6 drop springs as well?
Applies to all Camaros

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Old 02-21-2010, 01:22 PM   #14
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There are 3 different kits to meet your needs:

1. Fronts to give you caster increases of 1 to 1.25 degrees plus infinite adjustability within its range plus a allen nut with lock tight to assist in more camber adjustability. It has a allen head to help keep the extension more controlled when adjusting cambers, to assist in reducing the contact possible on your wheels

2. Rears to give you a much greater range of adjustability for camber and toe, and significantly increases the strengh of the eccentrics to the custom made bolts.

3. Complete kit for front and rears

The eccentrics are laser cut not stamped, and everything is cad plated. Also all the kits include secondary locking nuts for added security.There is a rather serious amount of work that goes in to making these kits.









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Old 02-21-2010, 04:10 PM   #15
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So if you put drop coils you wont be able to get a 100% alignment unless you get this bolts?
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Old 02-21-2010, 04:26 PM   #16
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So if you put drop coils you wont be able to get a 100% alignment unless you get this bolts?
For best results, with a drop kit only, you will want to get the rear cambers to -.5 degrees. You will not be able to get this with OEs

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Old 02-22-2010, 10:35 AM   #17
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I went ahead and order the full set, I need to get an alignment done this week.
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Old 02-22-2010, 01:01 PM   #18
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any ideas when bmr will be releasing the control arms
We are still a little ways out on these. The test car has been tied up in other projects so their really hasn't been any progress over the last couple of weeks. A design is very close to being finalized, we just have to do some final clearance testing (throughout the entire suspension travel) with some aftermarket coil-overs and drag wheels.
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Old 10-25-2010, 06:55 AM   #19
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Resurrecting this thread as I am wondering if Pedders or a Pedders dealer sells just the 11114035 rear camber bolts ?? I don't need the whole " Zeta Rear Camber & Toe Kit ".
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Old 10-25-2010, 08:40 AM   #20
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no, they are in one package together.
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Old 10-25-2010, 08:06 PM   #21
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I fixed mine camber without the need for bolts or aftermarket bushes or arms
The VE Commodore down here has the same platform as the Camaro
The fix is easy

The upper control arm outer bolt sits in a elongated hole
You need to take the bolt out and file the hole 2mm longer towards the outside of the car and then place the bolt back in and pull the spindle out then re tighten

The inner rear bush on the upper arm also has a slotted hole
Loosen but don't remove both bolts and then pull the upper arm forward so the bush it as the ends of the slotted hole and retighten them

This fixes the Bump steer in the rear has as well,
You will need a turn buckle style adjustable toe link to get the Toe back to Zero
I have my ElCamino version low and my camber is .25degree and Toe is Zero with 275/30/20 tyres


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Old 10-25-2010, 08:48 PM   #22
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Just had my Eibach lowering springs installed.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112638

When completed the dealership performed an alignment. The right rear was set to within GM specifications. However, the left rear was not able to achieve the GM spec, it is close. For now I am not going to chase the remaining spec. This would cost over $200. for the kit from Pedders. Plus the install cost of over $350. The install cost is this high because if you read how this needs to be done (look at Pedders install info.) the entire rear assembly needs to come down to get to the bolts. So for now I live with close. Since I rotate the tires myself at 6000 miles I will keep an eye on the situation.
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