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Old 02-21-2010, 11:40 AM   #1
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KW Variant 3 Suspension SS

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Old 03-07-2010, 06:04 PM   #2
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Who has these on their car that can give a review???

Interested, but would like some first hand experience.
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Old 03-07-2010, 06:07 PM   #3
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Well we are hoping to have ours soon i have been in a BMW with these but not a camaro.
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Old 03-07-2010, 08:24 PM   #4
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I had them on for about ten miles before being crashed into. Let me say awesome is the best word for it. Also let me say you will have to cut two small holes in the trunk floor to be able to make the adjustments needed without having to remove the whole rear shock section. I would do it again if I had the choice though. After the four wheel alignment job the car just handled like my Z06 does. Forsure the greatest improvement I made in the handling. Also highly recommend the Pfadt sways. I was able to race in four events with just the sways and the car was competing with many exotics and such throughout the whole course (sebring, road atlanta, and Barber)
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I personally have been racing on KW's for years on Corvettes and Mustangs. Their Variant 3 level is superb for the street and can even handle light duty track days. Our customers have given rave reviews for the Camaro sets that we have sold. We're working with KW directly on pushing for a "Clubsport" Version for the Camaro. We are running a crazy promotion for the Variant 1 and Variant 3 Systems which includes free shipping.

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Old 03-08-2010, 10:22 AM   #6
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Been running them on my TBSS for a few years now, AWESOME product..!
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I just got mine installed this weekend. We cut the holes in the trunk for the top adjustment but it wasn't until they were installed that we realized you cannot easily adjust the rear lower adjustment without removing the coilover. I missed it when shopping. What a pain.
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Old 03-23-2010, 10:39 AM   #8
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Mark..... I'm not really sure where you got your information but it is possible without taking the rear shocks off the car to adjust the compression. it may be a pain in the a$$, but it is possible. We are working to see if we can come up with a custom inverted style allen tool for easy access but that is still a bit out. If you have drilled the access hole for the rebound adjustment at the top, you can adjust the rebound. The lower compression adjustment will be a bit harder.

I personally run KW's on 4 of my current project cars and haven't had to remove their dampers on any make or model. I also verified with KW engineering this morning and they have confirmed that you do NOT have to remove the shock but that it is easier if you do. The whole shock does not need to be removed, just the lower shock bolt. However like I said, we are working on a quick fix for that.
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Old 03-23-2010, 10:58 AM   #9
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Also, just so everyone knows..... STILLEN is having an amazing sale right now on ALL of our Variant 1 and Variant 3 coil over kits through the end of this month including FREE shipping!! PM or email me for the pricing.

STILLEN has been in business for over 25 years so you know you will get the best customer service and the best technical knowledge available.

Our next KW order is showing up in less than 2 weeks and we have pre-sold over 50% of the units we have coming in. We have had incredible customer feedback on the V3 systems and our Mater Technicians love the final fit and finish!
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Old 03-23-2010, 11:14 AM   #10
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Yup - still waiting for mine to be installed - by Stillen

My issue is that I don't think I can have the trunk adjustments installed due to my SubThump :( We'll see I guess.

Waiting...
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:36 PM   #11
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Mark..... I'm not really sure where you got your information but it is possible without taking the rear shocks off the car to adjust the compression. it may be a pain in the a$$, but it is possible. We are working to see if we can come up with a custom inverted style allen tool for easy access but that is still a bit out. If you have drilled the access hole for the rebound adjustment at the top, you can adjust the rebound. The lower compression adjustment will be a bit harder.

I personally run KW's on 4 of my current project cars and haven't had to remove their dampers on any make or model. I also verified with KW engineering this morning and they have confirmed that you do NOT have to remove the shock but that it is easier if you do. The whole shock does not need to be removed, just the lower shock bolt. However like I said, we are working on a quick fix for that.

If it can be done I would like to know how. The small access hole won't allow you to move 90 degrees to hit the next hole. We tried for about 15 minutes to no avail. If we made some kind of tool I'm not sure how you could move from hole to hole and count clicks. It looked easier to just drop the lower end of the struts. My point was I wished I had realized before hand I might have gone a different route. I love the ride, much better than the springs I had. I need to adjust the height after it settles, I have about 1/8" difference in rears and almost 1/2" in the front even though we counted threads and set them equally. I understand the cars can vary that much. I really like everything about the KW's other than that one adjustment point. Hell I even like the colors....
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:15 AM   #12
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Mark,

I am working with KW today to get you an answer on the adjustments. There will be some clearancing involved on the rear arms. As for the variations in ride height, when the kit was installed, was teh car scaled as well? We have been able to lock down variations of less then 1/16" cross fronts and 1/16" cross rears even after corner scaling the vehicle. We scale our cars with full driver weight simulators and 1/2 tank of fuel.
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:04 PM   #13
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I am working with KW today to get you an answer on the adjustments. There will be some clearancing involved on the rear arms. As for the variations in ride height, when the kit was installed, was teh car scaled as well? We have been able to lock down variations of less then 1/16" cross fronts and 1/16" cross rears even after corner scaling the vehicle. We scale our cars with full driver weight simulators and 1/2 tank of fuel.
Well I watched it done and basically the coilovers were set by counting threads and making them equal. I lowered the left front today 1/2 inch and now the car measures the same on all four corners. Sounds like I need to have it measured while I'm in the seat and do it again. It is within 1/16" front and rear but not with me in it. I was told to allow it to settle a few days then re-align. BTW did I say I love these things!( What a difference...One question though, I couldn't measure the stock height on my car because it had drop coil springs on it already. Right now from concrete to the bottom of the fender well measures 28.5 on the front and 29 on the rear. It looks good but is that too low? It rides great but I don't have a reference on stock height. thanks

Buy um guys, you will love the performance and the ride is great.....
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:07 PM   #14
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Cool! I'm still waiting...........
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Old 03-24-2010, 09:10 PM   #15
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Bought & waiting.........

We will need the aftermarket arms from BMR to solve the lower adj.

Should be week of 4/5 Michael
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Hey guys..... The lower arm in question is not available yet. I know BMR had a few teaser images up but until I see it in person, I wouldn't want to say that it would or would not help this situation. I have my call into Pfadt as well for this issue.

As for ride height, you must measure from the frame, not the outer fender. The fenders can sometimes vary from car to car and not be identical to the chassis. So a true ride height is measured from the front frame area to the rear frame area. Fender height is only critical for clearance on the tires under full compression and turning. Make sure that whoever is installing these is setting the car up with driver weight simulation. Even if you have to tell them to put a few car batteries in the driver seat and on the floor. 200lbs can make a huge difference.
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Mark..... I'm not really sure where you got your information but it is possible without taking the rear shocks off the car to adjust the compression. it may be a pain in the a$$, but it is possible. We are working to see if we can come up with a custom inverted style allen tool for easy access but that is still a bit out. If you have drilled the access hole for the rebound adjustment at the top, you can adjust the rebound. The lower compression adjustment will be a bit harder.

I personally run KW's on 4 of my current project cars and haven't had to remove their dampers on any make or model. I also verified with KW engineering this morning and they have confirmed that you do NOT have to remove the shock but that it is easier if you do. The whole shock does not need to be removed, just the lower shock bolt. However like I said, we are working on a quick fix for that.
He got the information from me as I completed the install. If the lower adjustment can be made with the units mounted, I'd like a picture of the car lifted with the adjustment in process. Adjusting them on the car otherwise will require lifting of the car, removal of the wheel, removal of the lower bolt, and removal of the lower control arm to knuckle bolt. Removing of the lower strut bolt alone means that you will have to pry the unit upwards under spring pressure which isn't going to go well.

I've also seen springs settle up to 1/2" during the first 3000 miles or so, hence the reason why I asked him to drive it prior to more adjustments or an alignment. The original setting was done to thread count, car lowered, height measured from the lift runway to bottom of fenderwell/floorpan area, then the units were adjusted again to equal them out for height. No scale was available or used.
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Old 08-10-2010, 01:32 AM   #18
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KW Variant 3 W/ Hotchkis anti-sways

I've install my KW 3's about 6 months ago. I've been experimenting with adjustments and have it down now. I modified the trunk to allow access to the rear adjustments ( Drilled a 1/2" hole and rubber plug to each side). Needed for fast adjustment. I can make an adjustment from normal street ride to agressive track in about 5 min.
Height adjustment is only limited to your discretion as per the instructions, there are safety limitations. See pics......
Oh, by the way it handles so much better than stock, you feel like your on a rail.
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Who has these on their car that can give a review???

Interested, but would like some first hand experience.
We have them installed on our Project car and definitely have no complaints. The KW's have been great on the road course and on the street and the ride height adjustability is very simple. We even set the rears to full stiff and took them to the drag strip where they worked perfectly.

We sell both the non-adjustable valving Variant 1's and the adjustable Variant 3's. Both have adjustable ride height but if you prefer to not have to mess with adjusting the valving, the pre-set valving on the Variant 1's is very good and works great for multi-purpose driving.
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Bought & waiting.........

We will need the aftermarket arms from BMR to solve the lower adj.

Should be week of 4/5 Michael
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