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Old 02-24-2010, 04:00 PM   #1
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completely new to sound.. questions

Alright, so the stock sound system for the camaro is not bad... But it could be better! So I am wanting to get a lot better sound. But truthfully, I have no idea how to do this. I know to buy subs and stuff but do I install it? does someone else? what else do I buy? Just general questions.


So, what should I buy to improve the sound? Under 1,000$? WHat kind of subs?
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:11 PM   #2
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If you are new and want it easy, inexpensive and nice, hit up steve at subthump. I think all your needs will be met.

If not then start searching.

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Old 02-24-2010, 04:14 PM   #3
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Heh. I kind of needed more than that:P like a general basis on what I need, and what brand.
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:16 PM   #4
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Well, subs will give you more bass, but it sounds like you just want the audio to be a bit cleaner and crisper (is that a word?) so I would recommend upgrading the speakers and possibly replacing the stock Boston Acoustics amp with an aftermarket before you add a sub.

It really just depends on what you listen to and how you want the audio to sound.
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i know i'll get flamed - but the factory MTX subs w/ 200 watt amp is DESIGNED to BALANCE out the Boston Acoustic system. 200 watts doesn't sound like much, but at the impeadance level it runs it's comparible to a 400 watt amp. it's $780 shipped thru gmpartsdirect.com. little pricey i think, but i've read 6 folks reviews and they ALL raved about it.

your dealer can install it and not only will it not void ur warranty, it will be covered by ur 3/36 bumper to bumper warranty.

if you don't have an SS and the Boston Accoustic system, you need lots more than subs.

my opinion........
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I don't have a SS I have a 2LT... I think I have the same sound system as a SS?
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Yes, the 2LT has the upgraded Boston Acoustics stereo.
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Yes, the 2LT has the upgraded Boston Acoustics stereo.
Figured..

So what would be my first step in improving the sound?
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Well what do you want? Improved sound or bass? What is your end goal?
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Well what do you want? Improved sound or bass? What is your end goal?
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Bass. More than anything. Nothing makes me smile more in my car than hearing the stock bass. I just can't imagine my reaction to an after market system.
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If you like the audio quality and just want some more thump, then Steve@Subthump is the guy you want to talk to. They make a great drop-in sub box that fits most medium-level subwoofers and tucks into the corner of your trunk. They also provide some excellent step-by-step instructions so it's a pretty straightforward approach for someone new to the game.

Do some searching for the subthump boxes and you'll get a bunch of information
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Old 02-24-2010, 05:54 PM   #13
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About all you need to know is www.JLaudio.com They have done the most engineering on complete audio systems for the Camaro 5
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i know i'll get flamed - 200 watts doesn't sound like much, but at the impeadance level it runs it's comparible to a 400 watt amp.
The only thing you'll get flamed for is that statment. 200 watts is 200 watts, regardless of what impedance it generates it. Meaning a 200 wrms @ 4ohm amp is the same as a 200wrms @ 2ohm, only difference is the 4 ohm amp will be easier on your car.

Impedance is only used to match subs to power supply to get the most out of the power suplly, safely. What does that mean? Take the 200 wrms @ 4ohm example, throw a 2 ohm load on it. In theory, if you have the current to keep it happy, it will develop 400 wrms. At what cost? Again, higher current draw, excessive heat in the power supply and possibly faliure.

Impedance does not alter how an amp sounds like it's making power, it will change how an amp makes it power.


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About all you need to know is www.JLaudio.com They have done the most engineering on complete audio systems for the Camaro 5

What? Seriously? If that was the case, wouldn't the drop in factory system be JL and not MTX? They do indeed invest R & D for their stealthboxes and such, and their products are good. Yet, too some, like myself, they are overpriced, underperforming being sold on their name only to fanboys products. There are products out there that outperform them, for less money and are just as durable, but you won't have JL written anywhere on it. BTW, I haven't heard a Stealthbox I like yet, and you pay a pretty penny for them!
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What? Seriously? If that was the case, wouldn't the drop in factory system be JL and not MTX? They do indeed invest R & D for their stealthboxes and such, and their products are good. Yet, too some, like myself, they are overpriced, underperforming being sold on their name only to fanboys products. There are products out there that outperform them, for less money and are just as durable, but you won't have JL written anywhere on it. BTW, I haven't heard a Stealthbox I like yet, and you pay a pretty penny for them!
I have to agree with you on this one. I have been installing audio equipment for the last ten years and I have yet to be impressed by a JL audio sub except for how it looks. I have seen great things from MTX and bad, just like most brands of anything. If I was to recommend any brand, it would be either Alpine Type R series or MTX.
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I have to agree with you on this one. I have been installing audio equipment for the last ten years and I have yet to be impressed by a JL audio sub except for how it looks. I have seen great things from MTX and bad, just like most brands of anything. If I was to recommend any brand, it would be either Alpine Type R series or MTX.

Lol, that's where we differ. I don't care for the Type aRrrrgghhhs either, lol. The Type Xs are a beast though! Old school MTX was one of my favorites, now, bleah....

If I go namebrand, I tend towards Memphis and Kicker. Yeah, I'm a bit biased as that's what I installed for many years, along with Pioneer, Clarion, Sony and Treo. The newer Memphis stuff leaves alot to be desired as far as qualtiy goes. The old ST-1000d was a staple in my vehicles, as was the Memphis Belle 5 channel. Sony Mobile ES was great, all the new stuff sucks. Treo's warranty and CS left a bad taste in my mouth while the products were awesome! Kicker, IMHO, about the best namebrand product on the market.

Currently, I run with the underdogs, the internet brands. Soundsplinter, SSA, Sundown, Stereo Integrity have all stepped up in big ways, to just name a few. Truthfully, at this point, I don't have shit installed in anything, lol. In my garage are 2 Clarion 8s, HiFonics NX750d, Orion 2500d, 2 Eclipse Ti 15s, SoundSplinter RL-p 12, SSA ICON 12 and a few other doodads and goodies. My son has a custom bookshelf that includes aluminum mids and textile tweets from PartsExpress backed up with a SoundSplinter RL-i 8.

There is so much more to audio then namebrand. It's just hard getting people to understand that, lol. Install is far more important then the product. Install will either make ya or break ya.
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