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Old 09-15-2008, 11:09 PM   #1
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V6 or V8?

Alright, I'm sure this has been asked countless times before, and we've all realized the potential of the new V6 Camaro. Here's what I want to know, will it be better for me in the long run (in the sense of doing aftermarket changes) to buy the V6 or the V8. When I say V8 I mean LS3 and V6 I mean L99. As a rule of thumb the V8 would be a natural because one would think that a high powered powertrain could only get more powerful. However, the V6 has me thinking twice. From what I've been hearing the V6 is a lot more of wide open sandbox as far as aftermarket changes go, and in the end could ultimately surpass the V8 in performance. Of course, I may just have my fact out of line, and if I do please forgive me, I'm only restating what I've been hearing through the grapevine. Thanks.
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:21 PM   #2
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Well...first off, there's two things you need to take into account.

#1, the engine 'names' are as follows :

Manual V8 = LS3
Automatic V8 = L99 (basically an LS3 with AFM)
Auto/Manual V6 = LLT

and #2; generally speaking (what you said above, just different words)--If you take V8 and a V6, and pump the same amount of money into both, the V8 will still produce more power. How much more depends on what you actually do to them...

The V6 is equipped with Direct Injection, which opens up new possibilities. Until the aftermarket gets ahold of the car, though -- I wouldn't know what to tell you in regards to potential. What does everyone else think?
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:26 PM   #3
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Depending on the aftermarket compatibility with Direct Injection this could go either way. If you get the LS3, expect immediate (as in months) aftermarket support. If you go with the 3.6L, I would venture to guess you could get a few small mods within the first six months, with much larger stuff the following year as they crack the codes for the D/I engine.
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:50 PM   #4
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Get the SS LS3 man! If you can afford it it would be wrong if you don't right...
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Old 09-16-2008, 07:33 AM   #5
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Oh it's an LLT? My mistake I was under the impression that the L99 was for for the V6 as well as the V8, but in retrospect that doesn't make much sense, lol . Hm, but the V8 is multi-port isn't it? Wouldn't the multi-port be a whole lot better in the long run than direct injection? Of course, money isn't an object I just don't want to buy my super sport V8 only to outrun by a petty V6 with humongous amounts of aftermarket tuning that I couldn't otherwise put in mine, know what I mean?
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:07 AM   #6
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Isnt there a reason they make the V6 and V8 the way that they do. If you mod a v6 that much, wouldnt that cut down on the life of the LLT?
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:32 AM   #7
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Consider the following;

- your budget
- insurance
- need

The easy answer is, if you can afford it, go for the SS/hence V8. But if cost is an issue, based on what I've seen so far, the V6 is nothing to sneeze at.

I'm sure there will be a market (aftermarket) for both, so decide which works better for you, V8 v. V6, and base your decision on that.
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Old 09-16-2008, 09:14 AM   #8
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v8

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Old 09-16-2008, 09:28 AM   #9
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V8 ultimately will have the most potential. If your criteria is strictly based off of which engine will have more potential for the price then The Camaro SS is your ride.

Now if you're looking at something more affordable with better fuel efficiency, lower insurance rates, or a more practical daily driver, then the Camaro V6 is probably what you would want to look into.

I'm actually planning on getting a fully loaded Camaro LT (6spd manual) w RS package, just because it's going to be my daily driver, and i'm going to want something that will still get decent mileage but I'm definitely planning on doing some mods to it (like CAI, Headers, Cat-back, tune) if and when those mods eventually become available...
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Old 09-16-2008, 09:32 AM   #10
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The DI is more efficient than the MPFI because it atomizes the fuel more completely thereby making it easier to combust. What that amounts to is there is more engery produced from that fuel.

IMHO, right now, in terms of aftermarket support, the V8s have the advantage. A lot of what has worked on on past LSX engines can work on this one. The heads and intake are the biggest diversion from the LS1, however, the ports on LS3s are so huge that they rival CNC ported numbers from LS1/2/6 heads. In addition, I'm sure the LS3 is easier to work-on and modify because it's just a simpler design; it's not DOHC like the 3.6. The LS3 will always make better torque which'll move the car better.

I say, given your situation, if you can afford the V8, go with it. It probably wouldn't hurt to check out some LLT sites too if you haven't. I know there's a lot of untapped potential, but I admittedly don't know as much about that engine yet.
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Old 09-16-2008, 07:23 PM   #11
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Alright, that's what I was hoping to hear. I want my Camaro to be as fast as possible, and I wanted to know if that meant the difference between buying a V6 or a V8. Again, money is NOT an object, this car is my first and only priority (I'm about to go to college with tuition and what not covered completely) so I want it to show that I have a powerful car. The main thing that I'm trying to ask is: hypothetically, if I put all that I could possibly cram into a V8 and all I could possibly cram into a V6 regardless of costs, which one would ultimately come out on top? Of course there's no 100% way to know, because it's just speculation and aftermarket could provide a wealth of unknown things for both, but it never hurts to make guesses right ; )?
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Old 09-16-2008, 07:59 PM   #12
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For raw, unadulterated speed, get the V8. For economy and competitive speed, get the V6. Both are ridiculously impressive for what will be charged, and both will look impressive.
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Old 09-16-2008, 10:09 PM   #13
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Old 09-16-2008, 10:45 PM   #14
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:06 PM   #15
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Guys, please, this is serious. Don't get off topic.
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:13 PM   #16
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If you'll still be able to afford aftermarket parts, the payments plus insurance do the SS. if not get the LT.
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I would have to say get the LS3. By the time you spend the money on the V6 to get the 422 hp the V8 has you would have been spent what a SS would have costed anyway. 300hp vs 422hp is a BIG difference.
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Old 09-17-2008, 01:10 AM   #18
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If you can afford it go for the V8, now if price is to high the V6 will do just fine. Thats the same thing im doing
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Old 09-17-2008, 01:14 AM   #19
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Have you seen the other thread about a stock LS3 Corvette jumping up 150rwhp by just adding a supercharger with just 5-6 lbs of boost. Thats well over 500rwhp for the LS3. Lets say the SS is $29,999, you add a Procharger and your looking at a 35-36k car beating C6 Z06's, GT500's, etc.
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:34 AM   #21
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Alright, so it seems like the SS is the way to go no matter what happens, thanks everyone = D.
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:20 AM   #22
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Go with your gut man, the V8 will reign supreme, but the V6 is no laughing stock.

In the V6, you'll be outrunning past GTs bone stock. Look at Motortrends 2010 V6 vs. 1967 SS article. Thread is in here somewhere
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Go with your gut man, the V8 will reign supreme, but the V6 is no laughing stock.

In the V6, you'll be outrunning past GTs bone stock. Look at Motortrends 2010 V6 vs. 1967 SS article. Thread is in here somewhere


I've been encouraging a lot of people to consider both cars because they are both so impressive in their respective classes. The V8 will be competing, at least in terms of performance if not in terms of style and quality, with some of the best cars available in the US, and the V6 will be superior in quality to many of the cars in the 300-hp range with competitive power numbers. If you have a neighbor who happens to be cocky about a 350Z, a V6 would be the ideal competitor, although a V8 will simply lay it to waste.

If you're looking for style, both tiers are equally sporty. If you're looking for performance, the V8 will of course be more powerful, but GM didn't make a gimp of that V6.
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Old 09-17-2008, 11:54 AM   #24
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Of course, you could always relive the 80's and put the GNX style turbo and intercooler on the DI V6 and have a screamer! I have been pondering this same question since I saw the video of the deciple driving the V6 at the prooving grounds and he says " This is a V6?!?!?!?!" Either way you go, you will have an awesome car!
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Old 09-17-2008, 02:01 PM   #25
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My opinion is this. Donít be the first one to get the car day one they are out. Weight a little while, and let some of the hype die down. Then if one of your friends gets one. Tell him you are looking to get a Camaro and ask him to let you test drive it. Most likely it will be a V6 unless he is a major enthusiast or just wants a SS. Then try and find the other engine model you have not drove yet. Weigh your options and do your thing man. People can give there opinion all day long, but ultimately it will come down to what you like best and want more. You will be the one driving it and to hell if any one gives you crap if they donít like the engine type or trim level. Especially if they donít have a car at all to drive.
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