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Old 03-08-2010, 11:49 AM   #26
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off topic, kinda

First, I agree that Vector is the way to go...If I hypothetically tune, then I would use them

Now, a question for VMS. Adding ARH LTs with Airaid CAI, what all is changed for a LS3? It's more than just screwing with the O2 sensors, right? thanks
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Old 03-08-2010, 03:42 PM   #27
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First, I agree that Vector is the way to go...If I hypothetically tune, then I would use them

Now, a question for VMS. Adding ARH LTs with Airaid CAI, what all is changed for a LS3? It's more than just screwing with the O2 sensors, right? thanks
Tuning with different CAI's will typically start with rescaling the MAF tables to get the fuel trims inline. After that there is a lot of mid map spark blending for drive-ability as well as fuel economy. A calibration will tune more than just wide open throttle, it should be as if it were supposed to be there.
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Old 03-08-2010, 11:10 PM   #28
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We can correct the speedometer for different gears or tire size. We have specific calibrations for Kooks, ARH & Stainless Works headers.
Any CALs for shorties?

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Old 03-09-2010, 01:41 PM   #29
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Any CALs for shorties?

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What kind of shortie headers?
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Old 03-09-2010, 01:49 PM   #30
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Old 03-09-2010, 03:58 PM   #31
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I was leaning towards the Predator, mainly wanted to turn off AFM. A couple of local members already had the Vector, the more I spoke with them I new I would be getting the Vector instead, should arrive today.
As one of them said "The Stage 2 TCM tune is almost scary on the 1-2 shift at full throttle......". Will tune on Thursday 11th.

I have Doug Thorley Shorties and SLP LM II axle backs installed.
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Old 03-09-2010, 05:26 PM   #32
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Kirk tuned my tbss and I can't recomend the guys at vector enough.....First thing Im going to do to my camaro is have vector put a cai and tune in it...They really know there shit
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:42 PM   #33
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Hopefully this isn't too dumb of a question but does the vector tune come with a device like the predator or is it a program that needs a laptop?
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:43 PM   #34
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What kind of shortie headers?
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Old 03-09-2010, 09:34 PM   #35
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Hopefully this isn't too dumb of a question but does the vector tune come with a device like the predator or is it a program that needs a laptop?
You will need a laptop which imo is a whole lot better. There is so much more you can do and tune on a laptop that you can't do on most handhelds. Not to mention laptop tunes are typically easier to read and work with.
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Old 03-10-2010, 07:49 AM   #36
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You will need a laptop which imo is a whole lot better. There is so much more you can do and tune on a laptop that you can't do on most handhelds. Not to mention laptop tunes are typically easier to read and work with.
Thanks for answering. Correct, a laptop can store as many calibrations as you could ever want. Also, you can read data from the scanner in a much larger format while you are recording data.
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:00 PM   #37
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Thanks for the info
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:12 PM   #38
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Class act that Diablo quietly ducked out of this thread...

I respect vendors that give a little space when needed.... No disrespect to Kirk either. Thanks for addressing all the questions...

BTW... My Diablo Trinity is awesome
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:02 PM   #39
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i was leaning toward the trinity just cos i have the predator for my truck now and i love being able to pull over and changing pretty much whatever i want whenever i want, and after plugging the predator to the computer a couple of times and working with the software, i learned what to change to give me what i wanna....but idk this vector thing seems pretty cool too. my friend recomended a in person tune done by black bear performance so idk got a lot of options.
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:16 PM   #40
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Can Vector tune out the AFM?
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Old 03-17-2010, 02:23 AM   #41
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Old 03-19-2010, 02:31 PM   #42
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Do you have a tune for Doug Thorley shorty's with a magnaflow 3" competition cat back? I am also looking at getting the Cold Air Inductions CAI. thanks
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Old 03-19-2010, 03:35 PM   #43
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I was leaning towards the Predator, mainly wanted to turn off AFM. A couple of local members already had the Vector, the more I spoke with them I new I would be getting the Vector instead, should arrive today.
As one of them said "The Stage 2 TCM tune is almost scary on the 1-2 shift at full throttle......". Will tune on Thursday 11th.

I have Doug Thorley Shorties and SLP LM II axle backs installed.

So what are your impressions?
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Old 03-19-2010, 03:35 PM   #44
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What about Tunes for Superchargers? Don't have one...yet...but I didn't see it on the list on your website.
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:26 AM   #45
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Do you have a tune for Doug Thorley shorty's with a magnaflow 3" competition cat back? I am also looking at getting the Cold Air Inductions CAI. thanks
We do have a calibration for your mods. We have found that the Doug Thorley shorty's do not require a change in calibration. The CAI benefits quite a bit along with the better flowing exhaust just past the cats.

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What about Tunes for Superchargers? Don't have one...yet...but I didn't see it on the list on your website.
We have a MagnaCharger tune for the LS3 & the L99.
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Old 03-24-2010, 12:06 PM   #46
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i spent a long time researching both products and comparing the 2. it all depends on the application you want.

Both allow restoring stock tunes quickly and easily, and can see gains of around 20rwhp

DiabloSport Predator - $325
PROS

internet updateable
stores custom tunes
can adjust things like DOD, fueling, Spark, COT, fan settings, speedo calibrations on the fly in the programmer
log data for fine tuning
diagnostic code reader
portable tool that is easily stowed
Cons
you have to upload the data to a computer to diagnose
screen is small
no TCM Support yet

DiabloSport Trinity - $600
Pros

has all the pros as the Predator
also includes a monitoring function for multiple gauge display
drag tree function to record ETs
handy touch screen that is easy to use
able to mount on windshield or in gauge pod to do logging and monitoring
Cons
just as expensive as a dyno tune
no TCM support yet

Vector PowerFlash - $525 with cables
Pros

internet updateable
ability to log and monitor directly to a computer
diagnostic code reader
includes TCM Support
tunes are custom from the get go
Cons
just as expensive as a dyno tune
you have to lug a computer around into the car to do everything with the programmer
changing parameters has to be done through emails to Vector, cannot be done on the fly

Custom Dyno-Tune
Pros

Best way to get every drop of hp out of a tune
Cons
cannot change any parameters yourself, has to be done by tuner
cannot do any logging or diagnostic code reading
cannot revert to stock tune on the fly, has to be done by tuner
you never know how trustworthy the tuner is unless you know they are well respected

and this is why i chose the diablosport trinity
its portable, easy to use, i have a custom tune for my mods, i can read trouble codes if i ever get any, i can record drag time like 0-60 and 1/4 mile, i can use it as a multi guage and monitor things like AFR, boost, and anything else very easily with no extra wires or guages

i'm just hoping they come out with the TCM support soon, cuz once they do i'm getting rear diff gears and a 2800 stall torque converter!
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Old 03-24-2010, 12:21 PM   #47
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nice writeup...thanks

It would be cool to see where the new "Intune" would fit into the equation

$450
large touchscreen
analog inputs
ect.

... and HPTuners Standard and Pro versions ($499 and $649)
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Old 03-24-2010, 12:52 PM   #48
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Nice write up.

Just want to clear a couple things up.

1. Our scanner software will read and clear DTC's (trouble codes) also.
2. The price until April 15th is $525.
3. Not sure about others, but we have specific calibrations for most every CAI (race or street) and header out there. This includes the LS3 and L99 as they are calibrated different.
4. Our transmission tune is proven over the last 2.5 years in over 600 A6's with zero issues. We also have the ability to tune torque management by shift mode. Last I checked no one else could do this.

I must admit, the Diablo Trinity is a pretty cool device. They certainly know what they are doing.
We are looking at starting to tune Chrysler products and Diablo is the way we will do it.
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Old 03-24-2010, 01:04 PM   #49
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well if they don't get the ball rolling on their TCM support by the time i am ready for my torque converter, i might be switching

i eventually will be getting a S/C, and i will definitely want to get on the dyno for that tune! but i dunno how far off that build is :(
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Old 03-24-2010, 01:11 PM   #50
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Sounds to me like Vector is the way to go....at least if you have the L99s.
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