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Old 03-06-2010, 01:35 AM   #18
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Old 03-06-2010, 03:30 AM   #19
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Does any know if the MGW shifter is compatible with the V6?
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Old 03-06-2010, 03:44 AM   #20
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Nice write up and comparo. I installed a B&M short-throw in my 94 Corvette, and wow...what a huge dif from stock. Now, I understand this is a totally different animal, but from the looks of the video, my B&M has a shorter throw than either of these shifters. Is B&M making a shifter for this application yet?
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Old 03-06-2010, 07:38 AM   #21
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I would've considered the Barton....mostly for price....but in my situation my wife was begging me to go back to the stock shifter because she didn't like the round knob. The Race Knob on the MGW was our compromise. Just based on looks alone the Barton was removed from our list. After the ear full from the Hurst install it was worth that to pay double the money alone . In addition I like the fact that the MGW replaces the whole shifter and not just the shaft. Again..just my personal preference.

Remember....my post were just my opinions from my own experience. I mostly wanted to share my impressions of these shifters so that others could make an informed choice.

Nothing wrong with the Hurst if you're okay with the extra positive shifting. Like I said...it looks good to me and actually feels very good in my hand. It was just not the shifter for me.
Great write up, Thanks, are there any tips in reagards to the installation that might help they members out when doing theres
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Old 03-06-2010, 09:06 AM   #22
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Great write up, Thanks, are there any tips in reagards to the installation that might help they members out when doing theres
and dont forget guys the great hting about the MGW is that you can have it look old school also!!!


here is a pic from a member Sam on here that he posted...

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Old 03-06-2010, 09:06 AM   #23
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Does any know if the MGW shifter is compatible with the V6?
it is not but we are working on one...


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Old 03-06-2010, 10:07 AM   #24
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Great write up, Thanks, are there any tips in reagards to the installation that might help they members out when doing theres
Yes…here are a few things I would watch or do different.

The MGW install is not necessarily hard....just much more time consuming than the Hurst install. I would highly recommend getting it up on a lift if you can...although not completely necessary.

Front pins/clips aren't that bad once you find the whole to stick the allen wrench into.

Pushing the rubber grommets from the stock shifter to the new arms was harder than I thought. The install videos made it seem super easy but I didn't find them that easy. I ended up using a vice to help push them in. The ends on the grommets are different although it’s hard to see at first glance. Watch how you take out the grommets from the stock shifter arms and put them in the MGW arms in the same way as they came out of the factory arms.

There are two supplied rubber boots that go inside the shifter tunnel. The smaller rubber boot that goes on top of the larger boot inside the console needs to be pushed down farther than you would think. I had a hard time with that and then realized I had to push it down onto the shifter farther and eventually got is on (after a few knuckle scraps from the inside of the console).

Also something I would do if I were to install another one...the two bolts (the ones in the kit) that connect the shifter arms to the actual shifter...I would test fits those on with the shifter outside of the car. Once I had the shifter in the car and had to try to screw them in they were very stiff going in and there isn’t a whole lot of room to work with under the car. Before putting the shifter in the car I would bolt on the MGW arms with the supplied bolts. Put them most of the way in and then back them all the way out. I think that would make them easier to put in once you're under the car.

Also....on thing I didn't care for is that the MGW doesn't come with any instructions what so ever. There are the videos on the site but if you are somewhere where you don't have access to the videos it's going to be 10x harder. I had to refer/watch the videos multiple times as I was installing it. Luckily I have an iPhone with YouTube access. Otherwise at my dad's shop I would've been screwed. He has no computers or internet access there. Just make sure you have access to the videos or watch the videos and write down the instructions as you watch them.

All in all....not to hard...it's doable by a DIY person.
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Old 03-06-2010, 09:25 PM   #25
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Caverman,
Thanks for the objective and well written comparison. I have the Hurst shifter on my SS and your description of how it shifted; "It took too much force to get it in the gears....it felt like a trans with bad synchronizers" was dead on. Mine feels exactly the same....but I don't have the looseness problem.

My wife hasn't driven it yet (the car is still in winter storage), but surely she will freak out when she does. She rarely drives the car, so this is going to be my call.

I really like the look of the Hurst, but I am concerned about the excessive effort or force required to get it in gear. How is the MGW in that regard?
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Old 03-06-2010, 10:14 PM   #26
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Going to be subscribing to the thread. Great job. While the hurst looks better, the MGW just sounds more solid. Then again from a stop the stock shifter shifts really well... but when you get going f'ing third gear. I HATE YOU THIRD GEAR!
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Old 03-07-2010, 07:46 PM   #27
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Good write up. I just got my MGW installed and so far love it. I posted a bit of information and some pics here
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...t=67103&page=2
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Old 03-08-2010, 03:56 PM   #28
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I installed My MGW shifter a few weeks ago in my driveway in about 1.5-2 hours. I think it is a drastic improvement from stock.
My opinion, the stock appearing option is better. Looks like it belongs there and was never messed with. I think this is just another benifit of this shifter to have a choice of the retro look or stock appearing. It was a good idea for MGW to have the video on there website. I refered back to the video during the installation a few times and it made it much easier to swap out.
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Old 03-08-2010, 11:36 PM   #29
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I have a barton industries short throw and I love it! you should check it out! It has a way shorter shift that either of the two you reviewed and is only $210
That shifter ball is going to get HOT in the El Paso heat this summer. Had one in my 97 TA and you had to be real careful grabbing it before the AC cooled the car down.

I will not own another black solid aluminum shift knob again where only hell is hotter.

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Old 03-09-2010, 04:16 AM   #30
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Great write up !
My Hurst is not near as loose as yours. It is very positive and for me I still want to feel like I am driving a manual trans so the throw is perfect. Agree it is a bit notchy but I like it. Any shorter of a throw would not feel good to me. I want to feel like I am driving a manual with some action and not a EMCO sequencial box clicking up or down for gear.But that is just me.
I also have a few first gen Camaro's and both my 69 RS Z and 69 9561 COPO 427 Camaro have a console. This is the console the 2010 Camaro console is based on . All Muncie equiped cars had the HURST shift rod and console cars had a chrome shift knob so I took the original from my COPO Camaro and used it .I think it looks killer ! But I am a bit old school.
The MGW you put in looks great too !
I would imagine all three of the kits mentioned here are great . But I would say really pay attention to this write up and other peoples descriptions because just having the shortest throw doesn't mean it is the best one for your driving style. Hopefully you have a friend or fellow C5 owner in the area that will let you take the car for a drive down the road so you can feel what some of the short shift kits are like.
Also I believe the other shift lever in my Hurst package was so you can run the stock shift knob giving a completely stock appearance


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Old 03-13-2010, 03:02 PM   #31
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Great vids and write up. I will be going with the MGW.
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Old 04-29-2010, 11:31 AM   #32
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Thanks for the write up. I was already leaning toward the mgw, but now which one I want when I get my 2010
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Old 05-02-2010, 12:57 AM   #33
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Thanks for the write up

I tried some in cars at C5Fest and got the MGW... and I have to say that it is well worth the extra effort to fit
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Old 05-28-2010, 04:03 PM   #34
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Personally, I don't like the looks of the Hurst shifter. I think you made the right choice on looks alone! And I have to agree with your wife... just because it's a "muscle car" doesn't mean it has to look 40 years old.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one. I personally think the outrageously long neck and small ball of the hurst looks flat out goofy on this ultramodern Camaro.
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