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Old 03-05-2010, 06:17 PM   #1
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Got Pulled over...

I bought some blackout vinyls for my camaro and thought they were legal... evidentally not. I quote "nothing but OEM red is legal" then the officer stated its fine for car shows and what not... just aggrivated, then i politely offered to take them off right then and there, and the officer was pleased with that, he did not notice the exact same vinyls on my fron and rear side markers and turn signals, I intend to take those off now, so no more trouble with arise. I was going for the murdered out look... guess that dream went up in smoke. The vinyls i got were totally black (not tinted, pitch black) but there are a plethora of small holes, therefore allowing the full intensity of the original lights to be shown through... i was under the impression that as long as you can see the tail lights from 50 or 100 feet away you were fine(i read it somewhere cant recall)... I would thoroughly appreciate some insight or exact quote from florida state law on such things, I am not the type to take it to court to make it a point, besides he only gave me a warning. In which I am appreciative of.
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Old 03-05-2010, 06:26 PM   #2
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I wondered about this too andit might be more due to the fact that black outs reduce the ability of the lenses to act as reflectors (like the type you find on bicycles). So at night the light from other cars wouldn't reflect back to them when your car is parked possibly causing a hazard. Just a thought.
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Old 03-05-2010, 06:37 PM   #3
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they were black, not red - that was the problem. The light may show through, but not without the lights being on - lights or brakes. Hence, illegal...oh well. Mine are just tinted, not blacked out. Almost 5K miles and no issues with any of the tinting...and I've had officers come up to the car and chat...and pull next to me and drive along side for a while - day & night. The one at night he gestured for me to slow down ;( No ticket, no stopping...I was glad!

Just tint them!
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Old 03-05-2010, 06:40 PM   #4
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thanks for the input/suggestions. I do have a spare set of taillamps, just in case i have to go back to oem considering i put the AACStyle afterburners in. so i may think about tinting them. thanks again.
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Old 03-05-2010, 07:07 PM   #5
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would you have been on here ranting and raving and going all ape-shit if he would have given you the fine ? Just wondering, honest question because people are always aww he was such a cool cop he gave me a break and then when they get a ticket..it all goes to hell and cops are all pigs yadda yadda ...

honest reply.i dont know you, soo im not judging ,just wanting people to realize
they have a job to do.Sometimes it involves being informative (giving a break,warning) and sometimes laying the hammer down.

And yes i am an officer, 15 years on the job.And i have given my fair share of warnings being a car enthusiast myself.BUT ! i have nailed people who deserved it, guess its all an attitude thing.politeness,respect, being cordial will go a long way folks.

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Old 03-05-2010, 07:18 PM   #6
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that sucks.

where i live most the cops are pretty cool but its a small town nothing to do, nothing goes on

some officers are not always pleasant, i have 15 or so FOP cards and a badge, helps a lot...

but i have gotten ticket for tints, no plates, black outs.. you name it.
still i have never taken any of my stuff off..

if you have it just know you may get tickets. some officers have nothing better to do..
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Old 03-05-2010, 08:03 PM   #7
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It all comes down to how petty the cop is. Pulling somebody over for this is stupid. I guess Winchels was closed? It's the exact same thing when one of the petty cops pulls you over for no front plate, and others just let it slide.
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It's a state thing - this is not illegal in AZ or PA.

In PA they wouldn't pass you for inspection, and mine passed.

They did tell me that a cover over the light is illegal, but mine are painted. Seems like if vinyl was on well they wouldn't be able to tell, so it must be your state.
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Old 03-05-2010, 10:01 PM   #9
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Wow, I can't believe you got pulled over for that. I saw your car and I thought they looked just fine. But, I don't know what you can get away w/ of not. My tint is not legal but, I pass cops all the time and they haven't pulled my over yet.
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Old 03-05-2010, 10:19 PM   #10
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would you have been on here ranting and raving and going all ape-shit if he would have given you the fine ? Just wondering, honest question because people are always aww he was such a cool cop he gave me a break and then when they get a ticket..it all goes to hell and cops are all pigs yadda yadda ...

honest reply.i dont know you, soo im not judging ,just wanting people to realize
they have a job to do.Sometimes it involves being informative (giving a break,warning) and sometimes laying the hammer down.

And yes i am an officer, 15 years on the job.And i have given my fair share of warnings being a car enthusiast myself.BUT ! i have nailed people who deserved it, guess its all an attitude thing.politeness,respect, being cordial will go a long way folks.

Drive safe boys and gals!
The primary reason i posted was to get feedback or actual legal documentation, I like to know why things are what they are, how they work, if something is logical, reasoning behind something, etc... I am attempting to broaden my knowledge on this subject so I dont get tickets for things I could have easily learned/avoided. Im not a lawyer, im not an officer, hence my inquiry. If he would have given me a ticket I would have been aggrivated with my ignorance, not the officer, because like you said "they have a job to do" I totally agree with that.

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Wow, I can't believe you got pulled over for that. I saw your car and I thought they looked just fine. But, I don't know what you can get away w/ of not. My tint is not legal but, I pass cops all the time and they haven't pulled my over yet.
I thought it looked fine, but oh well, lesson learned. I dont make the rules I just need to better understand them. such is life.
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Old 03-05-2010, 10:24 PM   #11
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Hey guys, Im a cop here in Florida and wanted to clear up any confusion Floridians may have with this issue. The Florida State statue reads as follows

316.221 Taillamps.--
(1) Every motor vehicle, trailer, semitrailer, and pole trailer, and any other vehicle which is being drawn at the end of a combination of vehicles, shall be equipped with at least two taillamps mounted on the rear, which, when lighted as required in s. 316.217, shall emit a red light plainly visible from a distance of 1,000 feet to the rear, except that passenger cars and pickup trucks manufactured or assembled prior to January 1, 1972, which were originally equipped with only one taillamp shall have at least one taillamp. On a combination of vehicles, only the taillamps on the rearmost vehicle need actually be seen from the distance specified. On vehicles equipped with more than one taillamp, the lamps shall be mounted on the same level and as widely spaced laterally as practicable. An object, material, or covering that alters the taillamp's visibility from 1,000 feet may not be placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied over a taillamp.

A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.

FYI this also aplies with the headligths. statue 316.220
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Old 03-05-2010, 10:35 PM   #12
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Hey guys, Im a cop here in Florida and wanted to clear up any confusion Floridians may have with this issue. The Florida State statue reads as follows

316.221 Taillamps.--
(1) Every motor vehicle, trailer, semitrailer, and pole trailer, and any other vehicle which is being drawn at the end of a combination of vehicles, shall be equipped with at least two taillamps mounted on the rear, which, when lighted as required in s. 316.217, shall emit a red light plainly visible from a distance of 1,000 feet to the rear, except that passenger cars and pickup trucks manufactured or assembled prior to January 1, 1972, which were originally equipped with only one taillamp shall have at least one taillamp. On a combination of vehicles, only the taillamps on the rearmost vehicle need actually be seen from the distance specified. On vehicles equipped with more than one taillamp, the lamps shall be mounted on the same level and as widely spaced laterally as practicable. An object, material, or covering that alters the taillamp's visibility from 1,000 feet may not be placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied over a taillamp.

A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.

FYI this also aplies with the headligths. statue 316.220
That is EXACTLY what I was hoping for, your input/information is exceptionally appreciated, thanks for your time and info.
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Old 03-05-2010, 10:49 PM   #13
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would you have been on here ranting and raving and going all ape-shit if he would have given you the fine ? Just wondering, honest question because people are always aww he was such a cool cop he gave me a break and then when they get a ticket..it all goes to hell and cops are all pigs yadda yadda ...

honest reply.i dont know you, soo im not judging ,just wanting people to realize
they have a job to do.Sometimes it involves being informative (giving a break,warning) and sometimes laying the hammer down.

And yes i am an officer, 15 years on the job.And i have given my fair share of warnings being a car enthusiast myself.BUT ! i have nailed people who deserved it, guess its all an attitude thing.politeness,respect, being cordial will go a long way folks.

Drive safe boys and gals!
Not quite sure where your getting that he's ranting and raving /going ape shit.
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Old 03-06-2010, 01:30 PM   #14
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Not quite sure where your getting that he's ranting and raving /going ape shit.
read the remark, i said "would you have been here " hypothetically didnt accuse anyone of anything.
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Old 03-06-2010, 02:41 PM   #15
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just wondering... would a cop stand 1000ft away and determine this? just curious...lol.
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Old 03-06-2010, 02:56 PM   #16
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just wondering... would a cop stand 1000ft away and determine this? just curious...lol.
great question!!
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ok I just got back from measuring and I 'm at 999 feet exactly so I'm good.
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Old 03-06-2010, 03:13 PM   #18
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just wondering... would a cop stand 1000ft away and determine this? just curious...lol.
A better question is if you took it to court would a judge bother coming back and standing outside while you measure it after night falls which is the only way you would be able to prove to a court that you was legal, no.

And most people can estimate a quarter mile. 300 feet won't make a difference if the tail lights are legal.
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Old 03-06-2010, 03:24 PM   #19
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And yes i am an officer, 15 years on the job.And i have given my fair share of warnings being a car enthusiast myself.BUT ! i have nailed people who deserved it, guess its all an attitude thing.politeness,respect, being cordial will go a long way folks.
^^^This is common sense, people should treat other people like people...get it? You get what you give.

Word to the wise though, if you google "(Enter State here) State Statutes", they usually come up...but don't forget, you also have city ordinances to deal with as well.

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A better question is if you took it to court would a judge bother coming back and standing outside while you measure it after night falls which is the only way you would be able to prove to a court that you was legal, no.
Good luck with that argument. Apparently you havent been to court too many times (ever?) to lay down the law like that to a judge.
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Good luck with that argument. Apparently you havent been to court too many times (ever?) to lay down the law like that to a judge.
Which is why I said "no" at the end. As in no it's not happening.

And p.s. I probably been in a court room more then most people have seeing as that's were my dad works.
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Well the laws are different here.The law states you are not allowed to install any lighting wich is not oem for lighting...meaning you got your camaro without hids...your out of luck cant install aftermarket..and installing anything wich diminishes oem light clarity or effectivenes..BAM..nailed...(tint,covers etc)
Laws are different everywhere...soo look up your local laws or even better, call up your local police station an officer there will gladly inform you of the legislation in your state/province/country......
Some might say (hey hids are better i can see farther), i agree ! but the law is written in that way. :(

good luck and stay safe !
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Another thing to consider. if you plan on traveling much, you better watch the local laws for where you are traveling through or to. you can get nailed other places even if your car is legal where you live...
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read the remark, i said "would you have been here " hypothetically didnt accuse anyone of anything.
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Another thing to consider. if you plan on traveling much, you better watch the local laws for where you are traveling through or to. you can get nailed other places even if your car is legal where you live...
I'm not sure how this would work...if you car is registered & you live in a state in which your vehicle is 100% legal, how could another state give you a ticket just because you were visiting/passing through??

All of the diff state laws are dumb. You can buy a bottle of Jack Daniels in a gas station in AZ, but in PA you have to go to a state owned liquor store.

Oh yeah, you can also buy/sell cars on Sunday in AZ, but not here in the NE. Blue laws are the stupidest thing EVER. They make no sense in this day & age. <end rant>
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