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Old 03-07-2010, 05:03 PM   #1
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I said it before and I'll say it again...

Carl Edwards is a Jacka$$!...
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Old 03-07-2010, 05:04 PM   #2
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Yep, he basically just admitted that he did it on purpose in his interview.
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Old 03-07-2010, 08:35 PM   #3
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I'm expecting a suspension to be given out along with a big fine.
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I usually like him, but that was uncalled for. booooo.
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Old 03-07-2010, 08:47 PM   #5
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They should suspend him...at least one race!

Allow his car to start with another driver but no points for him next race!

Totally uncalled for!!

I understand what he wanted to do and why...but you don't do that at 190 and expect a simple spin to the infield! There could have been some bad injuries with that stupid act!
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Old 03-07-2010, 09:02 PM   #6
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So not cool the way he punted the 12, the 99 needs to be sat down... The 12 said he tried to check up when he got into cuzen Carl early in the race.
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Old 03-07-2010, 09:17 PM   #7
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99 caused his own wreck early in the race by coming down on the 12. Or his spotter is a moron. Even when he saw the replay he knew it was his fault, no reason for him to take out the 12. 156 laps down, he should have been nowhere near a leap lap car. I hope NASCARe supends his dumbask for the serverity of the incident.
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Old 03-07-2010, 09:25 PM   #8
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These two have incidents that go way back to Talledaga last year. Brad Keslowski did the same thing to Carl and went on to win the race, but that is no reason to retaliate like that. If you watched the end of the race Carl made another attempt at taking out Brad but missed and if you watch his gloves he clearly turns into Brad. Not cool for a someone making millions of dollars a year not to mention a new father.
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he'll be on probation with a hefty fine and points taken away...I see no race suspension
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Old 03-08-2010, 12:51 AM   #10
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Carl Edwards is a Jacka$$!...
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Yep, he basically just admitted that he did it on purpose in his interview.
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I'm expecting a suspension to be given out along with a big fine.
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They should suspend him...at least one race!

Allow his car to start with another driver but no points for him next race!

Totally uncalled for!!

I understand what he wanted to do and why...but you don't do that at 190 and expect a simple spin to the infield! There could have been some bad injuries with that stupid act!
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So not cool the way he punted the 12, the 99 needs to be sat down... The 12 said he tried to check up when he got into cuzen Carl early in the race.
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These two have incidents that go way back to Talledaga last year. Brad Keslowski did the same thing to Carl and went on to win the race, but that is no reason to retaliate like that. If you watched the end of the race Carl made another attempt at taking out Brad but missed and if you watch his gloves he clearly turns into Brad. Not cool for a someone making millions of dollars a year not to mention a new father.
+1

That crash was so serious...there could have been a fatality for either Brad, or some poor fan in the stands, if the car went through the fence...
When Carl Edwards started in NASCAR, I liked him because he seemed like a nice guy...
I don't know how many of you know this, but his Dad is Kenny Schrader's cousin...
Carl has gotten more and more aggressive and nasty, and after today's incident, I have lost any respect I had left for him...
SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!!!...
I hope NASCAR parks him for a race or 2 and puts him on probation for the rest of the season...
It's one thing to give a 'payback tap', but not what Carl did today...
And, to be a brand new father, and act like that, maybe he had temporary insanity from lack of sleep...............
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Bristol and Martinsville are coming up. Edwards will be wrecked at at least one of them because of this.
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Old 03-08-2010, 06:48 AM   #12
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This one really bothered me. NASCAR has a clear choice to end it or not. If they do nothing or impose a penalty that is viewed as tolerable to the offending driver, owner and sponsors, then they have declared that it's open season for anyone that feels they are wronged by someone and thinks they have to do something to teach someone "respect". Open season means you just need to get your car back on the track during the same race to "get some payback and teach respect". If the "teaching" driver is doing well in a race, then a better tactic is to wait it out for some future race when your car is a hundred laps behind and it costs you nothing (car wise or penalty) to go out and wreck your target. This will quickly develop into an art form where you choose the optimum time to even the score - preferably when they are about to win. Better yet, save it for the last races so it really counts and some real "respect learning" takes place. The best part of open season is that you also get to wreck other folks that have nothing to do with the "teaching moment" that the payback is intended to create. That in turn drives the need for others to keep a hit list (because you gotta teach respect) and it snow balls from there. It won't stop until someone famous is the target. Does anyone think Cousin Carl would consider something like this with Dale Jr or Danica? If NASCAR doesn't act decisively, the track insurance companies will act by raising premiums to prepare for the inevitable lawsuit that cites NASCAR negligence as the contributing cause when someone in the stands, infield or pit row is injured or killed in a payback chain of events.
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Old 03-08-2010, 08:40 AM   #13
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Old 03-08-2010, 09:05 AM   #14
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He's no different than Dale Earnhardt was except Dale usually won after he put someone in the wall.
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Old 03-08-2010, 09:09 AM   #15
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He's no different than Dale Earnhardt was except Dale was one after he put someone in the wall.
You are right, but I think Nascar was afraid of Dale Sr.
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Old 03-08-2010, 09:13 AM   #16
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You are right, but I think Nascar was afraid of Dale Sr.
He wasn't called the intimidator for nothing.
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Old 03-08-2010, 09:18 AM   #17
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He wasn't called the intimidator for nothing.
You got that right! I doubt there has ever been a driver that when you seem him in your rearview mirror, would cause you to mess your pants more than him.
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Old 03-08-2010, 09:40 AM   #18
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IS it just me, or am I the only one thinking the rear wing on these cars causes them to flip? I mean - going forward they are angled down to push the car down to the road....but the wing when going backwards is now angled UP, creating lift like an airplane....rendering the flaps ineffective. Seems every car I've seen go backwards lifts up and flips.
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Old 03-08-2010, 09:43 AM   #19
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IS it just me, or am I the only one thinking the rear wing on these cars causes them to flip? I mean - going forward they are angled down to push the car down to the road....but the wing when going backwards is now angled UP, creating lift like an airplane....rendering the flaps ineffective. Seems every car I've seen go backwards lifts up and flips.
No you're not. I was so disappointed when they went with that ricer wing. I agree that it is dangerous and Brad's car yesterday probably would have stayed down. I'm so glad they are going back to the spoiler in a few races.
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Old 03-08-2010, 09:53 AM   #20
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Wow, I am surprised by all of the comments on the subject. I guess I'll take the other side. I was glad to see Edwards do it. Brad didn't deserve to get put on his lid but he needed to have a message sent since NASCAR apparently hasn't done it. There are many of the veteran competitors that quietly applauded Edwards yesterday. I am not an Edwards fan at all but I believe they should let the drivers police themselves. That is what NASCAR wanted this year "old school" "take the gloves off" racing. Well, that is what you saw yesterday. I, for one, liked it. In the new age of all this NASCAR non-sense (green, white, checker, The Chase, billion dollar car templates, etc) I like a little old school. The only thing that would have been better is if he wouldn't have wrecked him on the track but would have jacked him in the mouth after the race. That would have been better.
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Wow, I am surprised by all of the comments on the subject. I guess I'll take the other side. I was glad to see Edwards do it. Brad didn't deserve to get put on his lid but he needed to have a message sent since NASCAR apparently hasn't done it. There are many of the veteran competitors that quietly applauded Edwards yesterday. I am not an Edwards fan at all but I believe they should let the drivers police themselves. That is what NASCAR wanted this year "old school" "take the gloves off" racing. Well, that is what you saw yesterday. I, for one, liked it. In the new age of all this NASCAR non-sense (green, white, checker, The Chase, billion dollar car templates, etc) I like a little old school. The only thing that would have been better is if he wouldn't have wrecked him on the track but would have jacked him in the mouth after the race. That would have been better.
I don't think anyone is arguing whether these kinds of bumps should happen.
There are times to put a fender on someone, but that was not the time.
There is a place and time. That's where he screwed up.
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I don't think anyone is arguing whether these kinds of bumps should happen.
There are times to put a fender on someone, but that was not the time.
There is a place and time. That's where he screwed up.
I would agree but I do not think the last lap at last spring's Dega race was the proper place either. Not sure if you all saw that... These guys need to police themselves. Brad is not very popular with the veterans and Carl sent him a message that hopefully works.
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I'm so torn on this...I love the aggressive driving but #12 was in the top 5 and Carl was 100+ laps down, if they are both fighting for the same position, then I say bump him out of the way. There was no doubt it was intentional, and I know Carl never meant for him to flip (so glad the spoliers are coming back).
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The lap difference made all the difference for me.

One guy was running in top 10, one was in dead last (or close to it) 100 laps + down.

I think B. Keslowski is a Douche Bag-- but that was still wrong. If something more happened earlier in the race, I would say it was warranted. But I watched the replay several times from the earlier incident in the race, it was really no big deal. Definitely didn't deserve to wreck a top 10 car 100% on purpose.
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Old 03-08-2010, 12:13 PM   #25
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Definitely didn't deserve to wreck a top 10 car 100% on purpose.
That is what made the "message" that much more valuable. Spinning a guy out don't mean dick unless it's gonna cost him something. Flipping him wasn't the intention or the result of spinning him. It was that damn wing that lofted him. If we're both runninig out of contention and you deserve a nudge I might give it to you. BUT, if your in contention and I'm not....oh hell yes brother, It's coming!
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