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Old 09-22-2008, 11:47 PM   #151
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Pretty good thing I wasn't discussing appearance huh?
hey if you want a ugly car that could beat the v6 camaro then go for it

do we even know the 0-60 of the v6 camaro yet or the 1/4 mile time?
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:50 PM   #152
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best ricer accessories ever, if for some odd reason I dont get the SS I would pull a rice move on the v6, hell ill go so far as to put some neons too, sound system.

ill get smoked but who cares it looks "cool"

yes because EVERY camaro owner races.
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:00 AM   #153
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hey if you want a ugly car that could beat the v6 camaro then go for it

do we even know the 0-60 of the v6 camaro yet or the 1/4 mile time?
I don't want any of those...I'm done with FWD performance cars.

My point still stands, 300hp and 3700lbs is nothing to brag about.
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:41 AM   #154
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That's really disappointing. The ground effects was the major accessory I was planning on getting....that's just too boy racer/ricey for me. Oh well, if that is the only thing I can complain about...no biggie. I'm sure there will be lots of after market gfx.

I wonder how they're gonna fit that big sub through that tiny trunk opening lol.
look at it this way,it will be lighter without the GFX
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:51 AM   #155
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That is a question that hasn't been answered yet. And I really want to know how that will work.

If you order a crate motor as an GMPP accessory, does that mean you will have two engines? Similar to ordering the CAT Back. I'm assuming you keep the original CAT and pay full price for the new one. So, will the crate motors be the same, or will they allow some sort of Core return so you can disount the price of the crate motor with a credit of some kind if they keep the original? And, what is the list of motors that you can arder for the camaro?
My same thought process. I'm assuming that most of the GMPP LS blocks would fit in that space. And they are listed at the site. I'm talking with a guy next Friday about all of this when i finall get to put my down payment .... down. I'm looking for those three options and then the Interior Package and the RS package. So yeah, I'll see if i can't get something out of them.




OH YEAH! also i got a response from LPE today. They are indeed building kits for the Camaro, said they'd be along the same lines as the C6 kits. so a 650HP Twin Turbo, or a 520 kit. Sooooooo I'll be talking to them when Feb rolls around.
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:10 AM   #156
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My point still stands, 300hp and 3700lbs is nothing to brag about.
I'd beg to differ. VERY much so...but that's not what I want to say.

I just want to ask you (and others) to please try not to put down another Camaro just because it's not good enough for you. Or because "it's not a V8"....

...not to very long ago...anything with 300hp was something to brag about....

We're all here out of for the Camaro...it doesn't matter which one.
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:12 AM   #157
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Hmmm...blade spoiler...quite possibly the only aesthetic option I could see myself paying for. Other than ambient lighting of course.
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:13 AM   #158
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I just want to ask you (and others) to please try not to put down another Camaro just because it's notgood enough for you. Or because "it's not a V8"....


Thank you!
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:37 AM   #159
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For all the people considering the blade spoiler, I believe it is a happy medium. The stock spoiler is ok, the wing is too big, but the blade spoiler looks pretty good. I will have to see it on a production Camaro.
+1 This is the way to go. Stock for V6, Pedestal for the kiddies that play XBOX.
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:46 AM   #160
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BTW, as far as the complaining on this thread about all the accessories....you don't have to purchase them. I think it's great that GM has decided to create all of these options BEFORE the car hits the market. Can you tell me when this has ever been done to such extent before by GM? The more options, the better. Makes the car more customizable by its owner...and isn't that how the original 1st gen was? The only difference is that these accessories are dealer-adds, not factory adds. Thumbs up GM, I love the accessories! I might not like all of them, but I'm glad you are offering them. Hell, I am just glad I will get to order a new Camaro that will be the standard by which all American pony cars will be judged!:flag2:
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the blade is gonna look hot that is all there is to say
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Old 09-23-2008, 02:02 AM   #162
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Quick someone give me some chop sticks for all that rice. Just what we need, a bunch of V6 winged riced out body kitted Camaros roaming the streets.

I think i'll wait a year to feel the scene out before i make a purchase, i wont be associated with this car if thats how its going to be marketed. Leaning towards the new Maxima or GXP.
maxima???? thats still a car??? they have not put that ish to rest yet OMG they really should
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Old 09-23-2008, 02:07 AM   #163
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KIT is not that bad

for all of you saying that the kit is over done? you need to live near nyc and see some of these cars out here..... am im not trying to be mean but who ever would buy a maxima is deff G.B.'s grandson.......
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lets face it there are gonna be 100k per year approximately made. that means some people will rice it out. who cares. for me i like having something that other people dont have or dont see. people having more options to make the car thier own makes your vehicle even more special for being your own.
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Old 09-23-2008, 02:28 AM   #165
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What is HUD?

Accessoiries look great. Except for the spoiler thing. I would go for the ground effect things; but also painted in same black as the car... No two-tone for me.

can't wait to get it overhere in Belgium...

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Old 09-23-2008, 08:53 AM   #166
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I'd beg to differ. VERY much so...but that's not what I want to say.

I just want to ask you (and others) to please try not to put down another Camaro just because it's not good enough for you. Or because "it's not a V8"....

...not to very long ago...anything with 300hp was something to brag about....

We're all here out of for the Camaro...it doesn't matter which one.
I'm not putting it down, I'm simply saying that those stats aren't anything to brag about because they are not that impressive. I didn't say anything remotely close to "the V6 sucks because it doesn't have impressive power" or anything like that. I'm just saying that the power to weight ratio is not something to brag about...I don't see how that is putting down the Camaro...it sucks you took it that way.
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Old 09-23-2008, 09:14 AM   #167
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What is HUD?

Accessoiries look great. Except for the spoiler thing. I would go for the ground effect things; but also painted in same black as the car... No two-tone for me.

can't wait to get it overhere in Belgium...

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Old 09-23-2008, 10:47 AM   #168
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What is the deal with the lighted trim kit? Doesn't look like the cool light bar effect from before. Is it only in those three colors as well? No ice blue/silver?
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:14 PM   #169
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It's not just for the V6, and even if it was that is not a good excuse to make it ricey. Like pink said, just a dumbass comment.



Yeah...until you put that freaking kit on it. And 300hp with 3700lbs is nothing to brag about. The Cobalt SS, Mazdaspeed 3, and Caliber SRT-4 will all eat the Camaro V6 alive and all 3 are probably going to be cheaper...and those are 4 bangers, fwd at that, and all with less hp.
Just wanted to note on this:

the Mazdaspeed has 12.1 hp/wt
SRT4 has 11.7
Cobalt SS has 11.5
V6 Camaro has 12.1

The Camaro is RWD as well. I don't think any of them will be eating the Camaro alive-it's actually pretty close. The mileage is arguably better for the Camaro V6 as well except for the case of the Cobalt because it uses regular. (MZS3 26mpg premium, SRT4 26mpg premium). So considering that's only 4 vehicles in the vast sea of 4 bangers you see on the street- so what.

A 6 sec flat 0-60 with the FE3 handling package and 26mpg on regular fuel is a pretty damn strong combination. I'm thinking $26k with 26mpg on regular has a LOT of appeal vs $30k and 23mpg on premium. Now if you are racing-well more power to you.

My option choices: upgraded stereo, sun-roof, light wheels (if the stockies are heavy I'd go with AM), CAI if it sounds right, and the upgraded suspension.

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Accessoiries look great. Except for the spoiler thing. I would go for the ground effect things; but also painted in same black as the car... No two-tone for me.

can't wait to get it overhere in Belgium...

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I'm not putting it down, I'm simply saying that those stats aren't anything to brag about because they are not that impressive. I didn't say anything remotely close to "the V6 sucks because it doesn't have impressive power" or anything like that. I'm just saying that the power to weight ratio is not something to brag about...I don't see how that is putting down the Camaro...it sucks you took it that way.
Oh no, I realize that. I didn't read it as though you said the V6 sucked or anything to that effect. But I did get the impression that you were stepping on the V6...I apologize if that wasn't the case. I just feel very strongly that the V6 is just as worthy of bragging as the SS is...two different levels of performance, but both are absolutely phenominal values in their own right. (See below)

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Just wanted to note on this:

the Mazdaspeed has 12.1 hp/wt
SRT4 has 11.7
Cobalt SS has 11.5
V6 Camaro has 12.1

The Camaro is RWD as well. I don't think any of them will be eating the Camaro alive-it's actually pretty close. The mileage is arguably better for the Camaro V6 as well except for the case of the Cobalt because it uses regular. (MZS3 26mpg premium, SRT4 26mpg premium). So considering that's only 4 vehicles in the vast sea of 4 bangers you see on the street- so what.

A 6 sec flat 0-60 with the FE3 handling package and 26mpg on regular fuel is a pretty damn strong combination. I'm thinking $26k with 26mpg on regular has a LOT of appeal vs $30k and 23mpg on premium. Now if you are racing-well more power to you.
Some 'changes': think less time 0-60 (not much less...but less), more fuel economy, and less money (as in well under 25k). And that is what I was getting at: very much worthy of mention, and quite the bragging peice, imo.
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Oh no, I realize that. I didn't read it as though you said the V6 sucked or anything to that effect. But I did get the impression that you were stepping on the V6...I apologize if that wasn't the case. I just feel very strongly that the V6 is just as worthy of bragging as the SS is...two different levels of performance, but both are absolutely phenominal values in their own right. (See below)


Some 'changes': think less time 0-60 (not much less...but less), more fuel economy, and less money (as in well under 25k). And that is what I was getting at: very much worthy of mention, and quite the bragging peice, imo.
people dont realize that other car companies are circling thier wagons and closing the gates to thier castles, becasue the General is on the March
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Just wanted to note on this:

the Mazdaspeed has 12.1 hp/wt
SRT4 has 11.7
Cobalt SS has 11.5
V6 Camaro has 12.1
Numbers are off.

Mazdaspeed: 11.9 lbs per hp (3153lbs/263hp)
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...ehicleCode=MS3
CSRT-4: 11.1 lbs per hp (3,189lbs/285hp)
http://www.dodge.com/hostc/vsmc/vehi...Code=CUD200802
Cobalt SS: 11.3lbs per hp (2,950lbs/260hp)
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6702
Camaro V6: 12.4lbs per hp (3741lbs/300hp)


That is actually a significant difference. And don't forget about torque, all of those cars are within 15lbft of torque, one actually has more. Not to mention drivetrain loss, I wouldn't be surprised if the CSRT-4 actually dynos more power to the wheels. The only place the Camaro will keep up is 0-60 because of RWD. After that, it's toast.

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Oh no, I realize that. I didn't read it as though you said the V6 sucked or anything to that effect. But I did get the impression that you were stepping on the V6...I apologize if that wasn't the case. I just feel very strongly that the V6 is just as worthy of bragging as the SS is...two different levels of performance, but both are absolutely phenominal values in their own right. (See below)


Some 'changes': think less time 0-60 (not much less...but less), more fuel economy, and less money (as in well under 25k). And that is what I was getting at: very much worthy of mention, and quite the bragging peice, imo.
You're right, it is worth bragging about. Just not how fast it is, because it is going to get eaten up by alot of cars.
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You're right, it is worth bragging about. Just not how fast it is, because it is going to get eaten up by alot of cars.
We'll see....
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Numbers are off.

Mazdaspeed: 11.9 lbs per hp (3153lbs/263hp)
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...ehicleCode=MS3
CSRT-4: 11.1 lbs per hp (3,189lbs/285hp)
http://www.dodge.com/hostc/vsmc/vehi...Code=CUD200802
Cobalt SS: 11.3lbs per hp (2,950lbs/260hp)
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6702
Camaro V6: 12.4lbs per hp (3741lbs/300hp)


That is actually a significant difference. And don't forget about torque, all of those cars are within 15lbft of torque, one actually has more. Not to mention drivetrain loss, I wouldn't be surprised if the CSRT-4 actually dynos more power to the wheels. The only place the Camaro will keep up is 0-60 because of RWD. After that, it's toast.



You're right, it is worth bragging about. Just not how fast it is, because it is going to get eaten up by alot of cars.
way to be a negative nancy
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