whats the status of GM these days

[LouT]

Well its been about 10 years since i've owned a GM product (an SS), and all I been hearing recently is about bankruptcy this and delphia that. Is GM just having trouble on the business side, or are there cars really downhill these days?? I'm just wondering if GM can put this car out with some quality. Obviously they got the styling part of things down and with the vettes they got the engines down. Quality is the question to me...

[returnofthereal]

You better believe they can deliver it with quality. Even the very biased auto magazines are starting to take note. Gms initial quality has been on a steady rise for years now. Hope its not to little to late.

[camaro5]

Any updates on this topic? j/k

[camaropete]

Since you asked and made me read this crusty old post: I think we have beat to death the point that Oshawa is one of the highest quality plants. So that should be clear. And people have chimed in that GM quality is at a new level recently (a high one). I guess you could look at JD Power reports and the like for some confirmation. Other than that, not sure what else to say.

[FenwickHockey65]

GM has come a VERY long way since 2006. Financial troubles aside, GM currently has one of the best lineups in the industry. Cars like the CTS, Malibu, Lambda crossovers, GMT-900 trucks, and upcoming vehicles like the Camaro, LaCrosse, SRX, Equinox, Terrain, 9-4x, Volt, and Cruze are great examples of that.

Quality wise, take a peek at JD Power and Associates' Initial Quality Survey.

[camaro5]

Originally Posted by camaropete

Since you asked and made me read this crusty old post: I think we have beat to death the point that Oshawa is one of the highest quality plants. So that should be clear. And people have chimed in that GM quality is at a new level recently (a high one). I guess you could look at JD Power reports and the like for some confirmation. Other than that, not sure what else to say.

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

GM has come a VERY long way since 2006. Financial troubles aside, GM currently has one of the best lineups in the industry. Cars like the CTS, Malibu, Lambda crossovers, GMT-900 trucks, and upcoming vehicles like the Camaro, LaCrosse, SRX, Equinox, Terrain, 9-4x, Volt, and Cruze are great examples of that.

Quality wise, take a peek at JD Power and Associates' Initial Quality Survey.

OK, I give! I said j/k. It was the OLDEST thread available. I was trying to pay back all the necros around here of late.

I feel like Austin Powers in the time machine.

Oshawa has received numerous initial quality awards.

[The_Blur]

The cars are great. There's no reason to worry about quality.

The business is disputed. On one side, you've got critics saying that the product is good but the consumer base is bad. On another side, you've got critics saying that GM has invested too much in performance and quality, all the while failing to invest in fuel economy, which is the primary motivator these days. Yet another side says that GM is a victim of the market, which is not very protectionist in the US. Customers who drove crappy American cars a generation ago are still complaining about the products they drove, and that isn't helping.

Basically, it is hard to pin GM's predicament on one singular problem. GM has a lot of politicking to do to get in the favor of the US government and its former buyers. GM also has a lot of work to do to stay ahead of expectations because failure to do so will give critics the chance to point out that last year's model was better, reinforcing former drivers who said that Japan and Germany do a better job of making cars. Until Americans really believe the facts about GM's products, those products won't sell. GM really does make some of the best cars in the world.

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by camaro5

OK, I give! I said j/k. It was the OLDEST thread available. I was trying to pay back all the necros around here of late.

I feel like Austin Powers in the time machine.

Oshawa has received numerous initial quality awards.

I know that you know that I know that you better know this is a joke.

[camaro5]

I should have actually read that necropost. Sorry, I just picked the last thread. :(

[camaropete]

Originally Posted by camaro5

I should have actually read that necropost. Sorry, I just picked the last thread. :(

That'll teach you.

[camaro5]

Originally Posted by camaro_corvette

I know that you know that I know that you better know this is a joke.

You know that I know that everyone here who knows this is a necrojoke.

The upside is it gives us a chance to showcase the outstanding assembly quality from Oshawa.

[FenwickHockey65]

Hey, here's a good example of how far we've come...

The interior of my '98 GMC Sonoma...



The interior of the 2010 Chevrolet Equinox...

[camaro5]

Originally Posted by camaropete

That'll teach you.

Backfire City!

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1SS Titanium - YUM!

[coolman]

I would say pretty darn good. I just watched the news ,and they are make money; and improving sales even in a bad economy.

Good Job GM!

[Iroczlover]

Originally Posted by coolman

I would say pretty darn good. I just watched the news ,and they are make money; and improving sales even in a bad economy.

Good Job GM!

Do you know that this thread was started BEFORE YOU joined this site?????? 2006

[coolman]

Originally Posted by Iroczlover

Do you know that this thread was started BEFORE YOU joined this site?????? 2006

And your point is? I thought it was fitting after seeing the news tonight. Is there a rule against not posting in threads that where started before your joint date?

[jmaryt]

Originally Posted by LouT

Well its been about 10 years since i've owned a GM product (an SS), and all I been hearing recently is about bankruptcy this and delphia that. Is GM just having trouble on the business side, or are there cars really downhill these days?? I'm just wondering if GM can put this car out with some quality. Obviously they got the styling part of things down and with the vettes they got the engines down. Quality is the question to me...

in my view,the "jury" is still out!.check back in five years or so,and ask me again!..just sayin!

Originally Posted by The_Blur

The cars are great. There's no reason to worry about quality.

The business is disputed. On one side, you've got critics saying that the product is good but the consumer base is bad. On another side, you've got critics saying that GM has invested too much in performance and quality, all the while failing to invest in fuel economy, which is the primary motivator these days. Yet another side says that GM is a victim of the market, which is not very protectionist in the US. Customers who drove crappy American cars a generation ago are still complaining about the products they drove, and that isn't helping.

Basically, it is hard to pin GM's predicament on one singular problem. GM has a lot of politicking to do to get in the favor of the US government and its former buyers. GM also has a lot of work to do to stay ahead of expectations because failure to do so will give critics the chance to point out that last year's model was better, reinforcing former drivers who said that Japan and Germany do a better job of making cars. Until Americans really believe the facts about GM's products, those products won't sell. GM really does make some of the best cars in the world.

i so want to believe this with all my heart,but a "long" history of building junk
i want to take a 'wait and see" attitude!..if after the warranty period is done,the car still is "tight" with few ,if any problems,then i will "agree" with the "last" sentence of your post!

[Fraxum]

GM quality has improved over the last few years. Still not up to Toyota or Honda standards but still improving. Stay away from the stock though.

[DGthe3]

closing thread so it can't be necro'd again