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Old 03-11-2010, 04:08 PM   #1
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Importing Camaro to Canada

Hello,

Just wondering if anyone has imported their Camaro into Canada from the states.

With the dollar so good...I see maximum savings.

Let me know

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Old 03-11-2010, 04:14 PM   #2
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Hello,

Just wondering if anyone has imported their Camaro into Canada from the states.

With the dollar so good...I see maximum savings.

Let me know

Thanks
Yesterday on my MC the rate exchange from US to CDN was $1.0062 = PAR
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Old 03-11-2010, 04:51 PM   #3
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Yesterday on my MC the rate exchange from US to CDN was $1.0062 = PAR

LOL im gonna do it save at 15K.

Warranty comes into effect in canada after 6 months and 12,000 miles which fine by me.
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Its not quite that simple people. You will have to go deep into the south and find a dealer who will deal with you as the ones close to the border have been told not to sell to Canadians or they can lose there dealership. The other option is finding a used one with something like 15k miles on it good luck with that. If you can find a dealer who will do it i would do it in a heartbeat its disgusting how much we are overpaying up here with the dollar almost par. They wont do Canadian pricing advantage with a popular model only when its not moving well. Also take a look at some used 2SS up here. Ive seen them go for 38-39 which is not too bad.
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there is 4 used camaros in guelph, 1SS silver, 1SS victory red, RS victory red, RS silver
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Old 03-11-2010, 07:02 PM   #7
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Its not quite that simple people. You will have to go deep into the south and find a dealer who will deal with you as the ones close to the border have been told not to sell to Canadians or they can lose there dealership. The other option is finding a used one with something like 15k miles on it good luck with that. If you can find a dealer who will do it i would do it in a heartbeat its disgusting how much we are overpaying up here with the dollar almost par. They wont do Canadian pricing advantage with a popular model only when its not moving well. Also take a look at some used 2SS up here. Ive seen them go for 38-39 which is not too bad.


Um..im looking for one from a dealership first of all...Im looking at a private party...I dont need 15K miles...I can buy one with 3k miles and have to wait till it hits 12K for the warranty to kick in sir...
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Warranty "blackout" is 6 months or 12,000 KM, or 7,500 miles...

Make sure ALL recalls have been done before import (local Canadian Dealer may be less than helpful, if there's any outstanding issues), RIV fee, A/C tax, Federal inspection, GST, local PST when you license.
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You may save 10,000 but not 15,000. There are some on Ebay with 500 to 800 miles. All you need is one that was registered and is not on MSO. If it has 5000 miles by the time you drive it home the 7500 will not matter.
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Old 03-12-2010, 11:32 AM   #10
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You may save 10,000 but not 15,000. There are some on Ebay with 500 to 800 miles. All you need is one that was registered and is not on MSO. If it has 5000 miles by the time you drive it home the 7500 will not matter.

10k still is alot of money..thats my mortgage payments for a year..LOL
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Have the selling dealer include the "recall letter" or GM Canada will charge you for it.

Also need Provincial Inspection that is not covered by RIV fee.
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Old 03-18-2010, 01:49 PM   #12
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1st post here, but I've been lurking (accountless) for over a year.

I've imported 2 vehicles and 1 trailer personally and helped two family members import a vehicle each. Each purchasing situation was different so I believe I have a relatively good knowledge of the process.

Vehicles imported: Year imported: Amount saved
04 RX-8 2008 $6000
07 Trailblazer SS 2008 $15000
08 Highlander Hybrid 2008 $10000
04 PT Cruiser Turbo 2006 $5000
07 Enclosed Pace Trailer 2009 $3500

Total amount saved: $39500 CDN

I'm considering do the same thing with the Camaro.

Process is very simple, but time consuming, here is some info:

You won't be able to buy brand new from a GM dealer - GM has placed penalties on US dealers who sell to Canadians. If you can somehow find one, the dealer will have to register the vehicle in it's state first prior to selling it too you, meaning you have to pay state taxes on the purchase, then you have to pay GST and PST in Canada.

You can buy any used Camaro doesn't matter how many kms(miles) it has on it. You just cannot register the warranty in Canada until the car is 6 months old. A lot of used Camaros have been stored over the winter, so 6 months old and low kms.
http://www.apa.ca/template.asp?DocID=253#gm0

You pay a Registered Import Vehicle of Canada fee of $195+ tax at the boarder along with GST (based on the US price after conversion to CDN), and $100 for air conditioning excise tax. There is no duty on the Camaro because it is built in North America.
The following link has all the info you need.
http://www.riv.ca/ImportingAVehicle.aspx

Car inspection can be done at any Canadian Tire, while you are there, takes five minutes and "IS" included with your RIV fee. You WILL have to show the CDN tire inspector that the daytime running lights come on when the car is started, this is a CDN requirement. Most 09 + cars built for the US have the ability to turn on or off this feature, as long as it is on when you go for inspection you will be fine. 08+ new vehicles also require an engine immobilizer installed, which all 2010 Camaros have so no problem.

As for speedo/temperature gauges, it is NOT a CDN requirement to have them read kms/Celsius. However, some cars have the ability to press a button and switch between them. As per the cars listed above, the Trailblazer SS and RX-8 (Digital display/one numbered dial) switch with the press of a button, the PT Cruiser and Highlander don't. Don't worry you get used to reading the smaller kms numbers very quickly.

As someone already said, "DO" get a recall letter from a dealer in the US prior to bringing it over. Some auto manufactures in Canada now charge for this letter, however, it should be free in the US.

If this car wasn't white and I had the wife's permission, I'd be on a flight to pick it up next week. It'd be like buying a new 2SS in Canada, but it comes with 600 BHP and upgraded suspension for the same price.

Maybe we cannot buy "off the lot" new but for $10 000+ savings on a "used" one it is sooooooo worth it.
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Old 03-18-2010, 02:06 PM   #13
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I'm actively looking to buy a US Camaro as well. Fortunately I live in Cloverdale BC which is about 15 mins from the border crossing so its easy to bring accross the border personally.

I want a high mileage IOM, yellow or cyber gray car and figure I'll get one for about $31k USD.

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Old 03-18-2010, 03:52 PM   #14
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I want a high mileage IOM, yellow or cyber gray car and figure I'll get one for about $31k USD.
Best of luck with your search, luck we are on either sides of the continent so we likely won't be competing for the same car.

Definitely going to get some forced induction package installed before bringing it over the boarder.
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Old 03-18-2010, 06:23 PM   #15
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Actually I plan on having Davenport Performance in Calgary "do their thing". I just want to buy the base car in the States. That is why I want high mileage so that it has the depreciation....going to replace the motor anyway.
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Old 03-18-2010, 10:39 PM   #16
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Why is GM so bent on screwing Canadians on their cars?
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Old 03-18-2010, 11:04 PM   #17
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it's not just GM they are all doing it, the government should be doing something about it.
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Old 03-19-2010, 08:06 AM   #18
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Agreed, it is not just GM. All cars are cheaper in the US then Canada from a Kia to a Lambo. It's the % difference in price that determines if it's worth it on a case by case basis.

I don't have an issue with the difference in price, US is a larger market, on average the CDN$ is lower then the US$ and Auto Manufacturers set their prices very few times per year often once per year which forces them to speculate on exchange rates over the upcoming year, obviously, leaning to a more profitable side of the equation for them. When the CDN$ to US$ was $.90 that 10% premium on the price of a US$ Camaro selling for $34 (for example) after exchange would be $37500, yes not $10000 difference but it's closer and not as beneficial going through all the work to import. As the CDN$ climbs above the US$ the difference just keeps increasing and the savings grow and grow. As far as I know pricing as already been announce for the Camaro for 2011, but if the CDN$ climbs above the US$ and continues there for the majority of the year, which is predicted you will likely see price adjustments in our favour for 2011.

Where the government should get involved is in situations regarding warranty, recall letters and non-competitiveness. If you look at the apa.ca site linked on a previous post, there are a number of car companies including North American companies (aka Chrysler) that do not warranty imported vehicles. So, for example, I purchase a brand new Challenger SRT8 (built in Ontario) in the US (Buffalo) and import it to Canada I lose the warranty both in Canada and US. Come on! The car's built for Canada and the US are not different enough to constitute voiding a warranty. Second, recall letters, BMW Canada (for example) some how has gotten away with saying that only recall letters from BMW Canada will be acceptable to the RIV (Registered Import Vehicle of Canada - non-profit organization) and you cannot import a vehicle without one (government rules). Unfortunately, BMW Canada does not give this recall letter for free, in fact the charge for it, and charge A LOT! Most cases a recall letter costs almost as much as the savings you would get by purchasing a BMW in the US. Which is why I'll never buy a BMW in Canada or the US EVER! Talk about anti-competitive. Unfortunately, they are having so much success other auto manufacturers are trying to do the same thing. Hence, why we recommend you get your recall letter in the US for your new Camaro instead of in Canada as GM Canada will charge you for it. Finally, sorry to make this long, anti-competitiveness by auto manufactures is ridiculous! Penalizing dealers for selling to Canadian is hugely anti-competitive. If this was allowed manufactures WOULD have to take exchange rate fluctuations into account more often which would result in more people "Buying Canadian". For example, the dealer I bought my Highlander from in the US can no longer sell directly to Canadians and have been penalized by Toyota US for selling directly to Canadians with restricted allocation for new "premium" vehicles. By removing these three items from the equation and Canada new Camaro buyer would win!

Unfortunately, as long as volume of vehicle sales in Canada far outweighs imports and ridiculous anti-competitive policies/rules as stated above continue to be allowed we will continue to pay a lot more for the same vehicle then our neighbours to the south of us.

Sorry for the long winded response.
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Agreed, it is not just GM. All cars are cheaper in the US then Canada from a Kia to a Lambo. It's the % difference in price that determines if it's worth it on a case by case basis.

I don't have an issue with the difference in price, US is a larger market, on average the CDN$ is lower then the US$ and Auto Manufacturers set their prices very few times per year often once per year which forces them to speculate on exchange rates over the upcoming year, obviously, leaning to a more profitable side of the equation for them. When the CDN$ to US$ was $.90 that 10% premium on the price of a US$ Camaro selling for $34 (for example) after exchange would be $37500, yes not $10000 difference but it's closer and not as beneficial going through all the work to import. As the CDN$ climbs above the US$ the difference just keeps increasing and the savings grow and grow. As far as I know pricing as already been announce for the Camaro for 2011, but if the CDN$ climbs above the US$ and continues there for the majority of the year, which is predicted you will likely see price adjustments in our favour for 2011.

Where the government should get involved is in situations regarding warranty, recall letters and non-competitiveness. If you look at the apa.ca site linked on a previous post, there are a number of car companies including North American companies (aka Chrysler) that do not warranty imported vehicles. So, for example, I purchase a brand new Challenger SRT8 (built in Ontario) in the US (Buffalo) and import it to Canada I lose the warranty both in Canada and US. Come on! The car's built for Canada and the US are not different enough to constitute voiding a warranty. Second, recall letters, BMW Canada (for example) some how has gotten away with saying that only recall letters from BMW Canada will be acceptable to the RIV (Registered Import Vehicle of Canada - non-profit organization) and you cannot import a vehicle without one (government rules). Unfortunately, BMW Canada does not give this recall letter for free, in fact the charge for it, and charge A LOT! Most cases a recall letter costs almost as much as the savings you would get by purchasing a BMW in the US. Which is why I'll never buy a BMW in Canada or the US EVER! Talk about anti-competitive. Unfortunately, they are having so much success other auto manufacturers are trying to do the same thing. Hence, why we recommend you get your recall letter in the US for your new Camaro instead of in Canada as GM Canada will charge you for it. Finally, sorry to make this long, anti-competitiveness by auto manufactures is ridiculous! Penalizing dealers for selling to Canadian is hugely anti-competitive. If this was allowed manufactures WOULD have to take exchange rate fluctuations into account more often which would result in more people "Buying Canadian". For example, the dealer I bought my Highlander from in the US can no longer sell directly to Canadians and have been penalized by Toyota US for selling directly to Canadians with restricted allocation for new "premium" vehicles. By removing these three items from the equation and Canada new Camaro buyer would win!

Unfortunately, as long as volume of vehicle sales in Canada far outweighs imports and ridiculous anti-competitive policies/rules as stated above continue to be allowed we will continue to pay a lot more for the same vehicle then our neighbours to the south of us.

Sorry for the long winded response.

Thankyou for the very informative post.

There should be a rollback in price in Canada for 2011 with the expected par dollar, at least common sense says so.
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I'm seriously thinking about doing this in the summer. I want to get a buddy of mine in Oregon to help me out. Does their no sales tax apply to cars too? Since Oregon is only 7 hours away from Vancouver, do people in Vancouver drive the extra few hours to have 0 state sales tax? Does anyone have an opinion on this?
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I'm seriously thinking about doing this in the summer. I want to get a buddy of mine in Oregon to help me out. Does their no sales tax apply to cars too? Since Oregon is only 7 hours away from Vancouver, do people in Vancouver drive the extra few hours to have 0 state sales tax? Does anyone have an opinion on this?
Your friend could buy the car and would NOT pay sales tax....He could then 'sell' it to you. You would pay GST at the border and then pay PST when you register the car.
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Wow. That sounds so tempting. Only thing is I'd have to get him to get Oregon insurance on the car for the day he owns it, right?
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..... don't even have to do that. YOU need to buy an 'insurance binder' here fromIACBC.....Cost about $130 FOR A WEEK.....so you can drive it home.

He just buys it from a dealer....then signs the title over to you....BUT.....don't let the dealer know...they are not allowed to sell if they know the car it is being exported.
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Oh wow. But won't they know something is up if I'm not getting insurance from them right away? LIke if my friend doesn't get Oregon insurance? When I bought my car new the insurance department was in the dealership....
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