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Old 09-24-2008, 04:27 PM   #1
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V6 Camaro can do 1/4 in 14.1?

Ok so I know that most of you are probably tired of threads like these, but I just have to ask. Especially seeing that we don't really know any performance #'s until we get further information.

We do know how much the V6 Camaro weighs 37XX.00 (I think 3751 according to the .pdf spec sheet.)

We know that the V6 will have the 304hp 273ft lbs torque 3.6L DI, VVT V6

We've heard that the V6 will do 0-60 in 6.1 although they plan on getting that down to 5.9 seconds by launch.

& finally I think most people are predicting that it'll run the 1/4 in 14.5.

But someone on another forum said he heard that they got the V6 to run the 1/4 in 14.1 seconds. Anyone else know of this?

I'm just asking because I think 14.1 is actually a pretty good time for the V6 Camaro if that is the case. And with some light bolt-ons it should most definitely be capable of achieving high 13's...

I guess that just sorta excited me so I wanted to see if anyone also heard of that #.

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Old 09-24-2008, 04:51 PM   #2
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Sounds feesible.

Funny my old high school 3.4l V6 94 Camaro could barely break into 15s with bolt ons.
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Old 09-24-2008, 05:23 PM   #3
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It's almost embarrassing I thought my 14.4 (the first time at the track) was great for my '95 at the time. I dropped several tenths later after learning to drive better, but to think a V6 would be running those numbers only ten years later is pretty cool. If I knew that then I probably would've been disappointed but even if it "only" runs in the mid-14s, that'll be great.
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:50 PM   #4
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These cars have to get faster.

Look at the Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, & Nissan Altima & the new Maxima for example.

I mean these cars are getting like 260-290hp out of their V6's and they are doing 60 in under 6 seconds and the 1/4 in low 14's. It's sad to think that a Camaro could lose to one of these cars.

So I'm praying that the V6 Camaro will be able to achieve the 1/4 stock in low 14's. High 13's would be just awesome stock, but that's unlikely.
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These cars have to get faster.

Look at the Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, & Nissan Altima & the new Maxima for example.

I mean these cars are getting like 260-290hp out of their V6's and they are doing 60 in under 6 seconds and the 1/4 in low 14's. It's sad to think that a Camaro could lose to one of these cars.

So I'm praying that the V6 Camaro will be able to achieve the 1/4 stock in low 14's. High 13's would be just awesome stock, but that's unlikely.
I totally agree... mustang is a wuss at stoplights around town, I don't even try anymore. 210hp and 0-60 in the 7's is the suck.
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:43 PM   #6
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DUMB QUESTION I KNOW: could a v6 camaro with some light mods, like a cat back, tune and CAI beat a v8 Mustang?
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:59 PM   #7
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DUMB QUESTION I KNOW: could a v6 camaro with some light mods, like a cat back, tune and CAI beat a v8 Mustang?
It is possible

Our (their) 4.6 is a pushover.


Hell, look at the supra, thats a 6 (not a v6, but a 6) and a modded supra will walk most v8's on the street.
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Old 09-24-2008, 09:00 PM   #8
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DUMB QUESTION I KNOW: could a v6 camaro with some light mods, like a cat back, tune and CAI beat a v8 Mustang?
Driven properly, and mated to the stick shift, a completely STOCK Camaro 3.6 will, at very minimum, keep right with a Mustang GT automatic.

Obviously, transmissions will take into account, as well as driver ability. But I don't see a Mustang GT leaving ANY 3.6 Camaro in the dust. No way.

Now, you start modifying your Camaro and the GT Mustang is still stock, in the words of Tony Soprano, "fuhgetabahtit!"
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that's good news for me, everyone out here has mustang gt's and ill be whippin up on them with my v6 woot woot
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save 6 grand and still beaat them lol. not that i don't wish i could have a v8. just a little outta my price range.
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It depends on how bad you want that cool (but you can only get it with leather on pretty much fully loaded trim levels) ambient lighting deal. A V6 with ambient light and leather (required if you want the light) will probably cost as much if not more than a cloth SS and no lights.

Make consessions where appropriate, and I think you'd be surprised when GM finally releases pricing.

I have already made my mind up that I will get the SS1 trim level - that means cloth interior, no lighting package, no BA sound system, and I will keep the options to only the RS package and a moonroof. I still think with that you will be able to get the SS for under 30k. You get your SS performance and don't break the bank.

It's when you go for the SS2 trim (leather, BA sound system, interior lighting package) that the price shoots to the moon.
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yea i know but i am loving the looks of the RS so it looks like i will get an LT2 RS which is about the price of a base V8. i want the performance but not that bad to kill the looks of this car.
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It depends on how bad you want that cool (but you can only get it with leather on pretty much fully loaded trim levels) ambient lighting deal. A V6 with ambient light and leather (required if you want the light) will probably cost as much if not more than a cloth SS and no lights.

Make consessions where appropriate, and I think you'd be surprised when GM finally releases pricing.

I have already made my mind up that I will get the SS1 trim level - that means cloth interior, no lighting package, no BA sound system, and I will keep the options to only the RS package and a moonroof. I still think with that you will be able to get the SS for under 30k. You get your SS performance and don't break the bank.

It's when you go for the SS2 trim (leather, BA sound system, interior lighting package) that the price shoots to the moon.
I doubt that an LT2 would be THAT close to an SS1 but who knows
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I totally agree... mustang is a wuss at stoplights around town, I don't even try anymore. 210hp and 0-60 in the 7's is the suck.
Those new Altima's, Accords, Camry's, and the Maxima I now have problems with. They are about as quick if not slightly quicker than my SS/SC and that's just a disturbing thought.

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yea i know but i am loving the looks of the RS so it looks like i will get an LT2 RS which is about the price of a base V8. i want the performance but not that bad to kill the looks of this car.
I know I'm planning on getting a pretty loaded LT(2) w RS. All I want really is leather, steering wheel controls, maybe the BA. I won't be getting one until mid summer of 09, and with my family GM employee discount I'm hoping I can get the price down to 26k or something.

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I doubt that an LT2 would be THAT close to an SS1 but who knows
I do too. I mean I can see a fully loaded LT(2) w RS package encroaching high 20's but I don't think it's really going to cost as much or more than a base SS(1). If that's the case though I'll take the SS(1)...

But like I posted I got really excited when I heard someone say they heard the V6 ran the 1/4 in 14.1 that means that the 13's are only a few bolt-ons away...
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:03 AM   #15
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They are always improving...nobody ever said the numbers you see today are going to be "final", right?

...stock (upon release)...I have a nagging suspicion they'll get the V6/RS/Auto down to 13.9....
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:06 AM   #16
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They are always improving...nobody ever said the numbers you see today are going to be "final", right?

...stock (upon release)...I have a nagging suspicion they'll get the V6/RS/Auto down to 13.9....
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That would make me very happy a very happy person...
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They are always improving...nobody ever said the numbers you see today are going to be "final", right?

...stock (upon release)...I have a nagging suspicion they'll get the V6/RS/Auto down to 13.9....
...no inside info or anything...just me.
yes if that where true I would consider the V6,
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I dunno man, wasn't an LS1 car mid to high 13s stock? Didn't it have more horsepower, less weight and have a substantial surfeit in torque than the '10 LT? Don't get me wrong I'd love to see a sub 6 second, sub 14 second V6 camaro since that's what I'm buying no matter what, but I think it's safer to hope for a 5.9-6.0 and a 14.2-14.4. It's still gotta get 27 mpg.
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They are always improving...nobody ever said the numbers you see today are going to be "final", right?

...stock (upon release)...I have a nagging suspicion they'll get the V6/RS/Auto down to 13.9....
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I've been thinking the same thing.
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I dunno man, wasn't an LS1 car mid to high 13s stock? Didn't it have more horsepower, less weight and have a substantial surfeit in torque than the '10 LT? Don't get me wrong I'd love to see a sub 6 second, sub 14 second V6 camaro since that's what I'm buying no matter what, but I think it's safer to hope for a 5.9-6.0 and a 14.2-14.4. It's still gotta get 27 mpg.
I certainly think that it's possible for the V6 Camaro stock to achieve 60 in maybe a little under 5.9, like 5.7-5.8, and the 1/4 in 14.1-13.9. And I'm definitely hoping so.

But when we're talking a couple tenths of a second, it's not like we'll be able to feel the difference. And for example, the Accord Coupe can do 60 in 5.7 and if the Camaro does it in 5.9 that doesn't mean that the Accord is going to necessarily win. It's going to come down to how well you launch and driver skill.

And most importantly to note. GM is pretty good about slightly underrating the performance of their vehicles, so whatever the manufacturer performance ratings are doesn't mean that's all it can do. I know with my car, 0-60 was rated @ 6.3 seconds, but most owners and the car magazines, were able to achieve 5.9. Same goes with the new Cobalt SS Turbo. Mfr 0-60 is 5.7, but every car magazine has gotten it to 5.5. Same with the ZO6, and I'm willing to bet it'll be like that with the ZR1, the Camaro V6, and the Camaro SS...
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All I have to say is that the Car and Driver has gotten the CTS to 60 in 5.8 before, so 5.9 for our Camaro when its geared more aggressively and 200 pounds lighter? I'm thinking more like 5.5 to 5.7 - just my opinion though.
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All I have to say is that the Car and Driver has gotten the CTS to 60 in 5.8 before, so 5.9 for our Camaro when its geared more aggressively and 200 pounds lighter? I'm thinking more like 5.5 to 5.7 - just my opinion though.
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They got the CTS to hit 60 in 5.8? Wow well then it's for sure going to be capable of under 5.9... I didn't hear that.
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Was that the AWD CTS? If so it will have a much better chance at pulling great 0-60 times then the RWD camaro. It will launch like a bat outta hell.

The V6 camaro might be able to break 6.0 seconds with the manual but not the auto. But neither will beat a Mustang GT for the TQ reason. You don't race with HP you race with TQ.
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I dunno man, wasn't an LS1 car mid to high 13s stock? Didn't it have more horsepower, less weight and have a substantial surfeit in torque than the '10 LT? Don't get me wrong I'd love to see a sub 6 second, sub 14 second V6 camaro since that's what I'm buying no matter what, but I think it's safer to hope for a 5.9-6.0 and a 14.2-14.4. It's still gotta get 27 mpg.
The 4th gen LS1 was a low 13 high 12 car. 13.4 avg driver/
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Was that the AWD CTS? If so it will have a much better chance at pulling great 0-60 times then the RWD camaro. It will launch like a bat outta hell.

The V6 camaro might be able to break 6.0 seconds with the manual but not the auto. But neither will beat a Mustang GT for the TQ reason. You don't race with HP you race with TQ.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...di_v_6_feature

That's the C&D review. It only says with the 3.6L DI, VVT V6. That was with the 6-spd manual. Doesn't say anywhere in there about the optional AWD. It says RWD.

The Cadillac also has a 4032lbs curb weight.

There's no doubt in my mind now that the V6 Camaro won't at least achieve that. Esp if it weighs almost 300lbs less.

I think we could be looking at a 5.5-5.9 0-60 easy for the V6 Camaro.
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