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Old 09-25-2008, 12:03 AM   #15
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They are always improving...nobody ever said the numbers you see today are going to be "final", right?

...stock (upon release)...I have a nagging suspicion they'll get the V6/RS/Auto down to 13.9....
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:06 AM   #16
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They are always improving...nobody ever said the numbers you see today are going to be "final", right?

...stock (upon release)...I have a nagging suspicion they'll get the V6/RS/Auto down to 13.9....
...no inside info or anything...just me.
That would make me very happy a very happy person...
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:16 AM   #17
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They are always improving...nobody ever said the numbers you see today are going to be "final", right?

...stock (upon release)...I have a nagging suspicion they'll get the V6/RS/Auto down to 13.9....
...no inside info or anything...just me.
yes if that where true I would consider the V6,
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:31 PM   #18
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I dunno man, wasn't an LS1 car mid to high 13s stock? Didn't it have more horsepower, less weight and have a substantial surfeit in torque than the '10 LT? Don't get me wrong I'd love to see a sub 6 second, sub 14 second V6 camaro since that's what I'm buying no matter what, but I think it's safer to hope for a 5.9-6.0 and a 14.2-14.4. It's still gotta get 27 mpg.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:34 PM   #19
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They are always improving...nobody ever said the numbers you see today are going to be "final", right?

...stock (upon release)...I have a nagging suspicion they'll get the V6/RS/Auto down to 13.9....
...no inside info or anything...just me.
I've been thinking the same thing.
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Old 09-25-2008, 02:42 PM   #20
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I dunno man, wasn't an LS1 car mid to high 13s stock? Didn't it have more horsepower, less weight and have a substantial surfeit in torque than the '10 LT? Don't get me wrong I'd love to see a sub 6 second, sub 14 second V6 camaro since that's what I'm buying no matter what, but I think it's safer to hope for a 5.9-6.0 and a 14.2-14.4. It's still gotta get 27 mpg.
I certainly think that it's possible for the V6 Camaro stock to achieve 60 in maybe a little under 5.9, like 5.7-5.8, and the 1/4 in 14.1-13.9. And I'm definitely hoping so.

But when we're talking a couple tenths of a second, it's not like we'll be able to feel the difference. And for example, the Accord Coupe can do 60 in 5.7 and if the Camaro does it in 5.9 that doesn't mean that the Accord is going to necessarily win. It's going to come down to how well you launch and driver skill.

And most importantly to note. GM is pretty good about slightly underrating the performance of their vehicles, so whatever the manufacturer performance ratings are doesn't mean that's all it can do. I know with my car, 0-60 was rated @ 6.3 seconds, but most owners and the car magazines, were able to achieve 5.9. Same goes with the new Cobalt SS Turbo. Mfr 0-60 is 5.7, but every car magazine has gotten it to 5.5. Same with the ZO6, and I'm willing to bet it'll be like that with the ZR1, the Camaro V6, and the Camaro SS...
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All I have to say is that the Car and Driver has gotten the CTS to 60 in 5.8 before, so 5.9 for our Camaro when its geared more aggressively and 200 pounds lighter? I'm thinking more like 5.5 to 5.7 - just my opinion though.
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All I have to say is that the Car and Driver has gotten the CTS to 60 in 5.8 before, so 5.9 for our Camaro when its geared more aggressively and 200 pounds lighter? I'm thinking more like 5.5 to 5.7 - just my opinion though.
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They got the CTS to hit 60 in 5.8? Wow well then it's for sure going to be capable of under 5.9... I didn't hear that.
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Was that the AWD CTS? If so it will have a much better chance at pulling great 0-60 times then the RWD camaro. It will launch like a bat outta hell.

The V6 camaro might be able to break 6.0 seconds with the manual but not the auto. But neither will beat a Mustang GT for the TQ reason. You don't race with HP you race with TQ.
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I dunno man, wasn't an LS1 car mid to high 13s stock? Didn't it have more horsepower, less weight and have a substantial surfeit in torque than the '10 LT? Don't get me wrong I'd love to see a sub 6 second, sub 14 second V6 camaro since that's what I'm buying no matter what, but I think it's safer to hope for a 5.9-6.0 and a 14.2-14.4. It's still gotta get 27 mpg.
The 4th gen LS1 was a low 13 high 12 car. 13.4 avg driver/
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Was that the AWD CTS? If so it will have a much better chance at pulling great 0-60 times then the RWD camaro. It will launch like a bat outta hell.

The V6 camaro might be able to break 6.0 seconds with the manual but not the auto. But neither will beat a Mustang GT for the TQ reason. You don't race with HP you race with TQ.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...di_v_6_feature

That's the C&D review. It only says with the 3.6L DI, VVT V6. That was with the 6-spd manual. Doesn't say anywhere in there about the optional AWD. It says RWD.

The Cadillac also has a 4032lbs curb weight.

There's no doubt in my mind now that the V6 Camaro won't at least achieve that. Esp if it weighs almost 300lbs less.

I think we could be looking at a 5.5-5.9 0-60 easy for the V6 Camaro.
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I hope this is all true. If it can do 0-60 in 5.5 (maybe?) what do you think the 1/4 will be?
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I hope this is all true. If it can do 0-60 in 5.5 (maybe?) what do you think the 1/4 will be?
If it does 5.5, then I'm willing to bet that it'll do the quarter in 14 flat.
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http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...di_v_6_feature

That's the C&D review. It only says with the 3.6L DI, VVT V6. That was with the 6-spd manual. Doesn't say anywhere in there about the optional AWD. It says RWD.

The Cadillac also has a 4032lbs curb weight.

There's no doubt in my mind now that the V6 Camaro won't at least achieve that. Esp if it weighs almost 300lbs less.

I think we could be looking at a 5.5-5.9 0-60 easy for the V6 Camaro.
Hmm, 4000 lbs is right between where the awd and non-awd cars come in at. Anyone know if magazines tend give heavy or light readings?
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