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Old 03-21-2010, 03:38 PM   #76
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Care to post part numbers for all pieces required?
I doubt those are 6-piston calipers for 325. ea. Sounds more like the 4-piston price.
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Retail is 560/ea a piece. They have them listed as 09 CTS-V calipers. That's why I was asking for part numbers. 560/ea retail is about right for 6 piston. 325 is just what GMPD has them listed for.
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Old 03-21-2010, 07:08 PM   #78
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3400 bucks isn't a bad upgrade for the money. I imagine some of the higher end brake company charge way more than that for their brakes that will fit on the camaro
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The odd rear caliper pricing is just that odd. Overall the price point for the upgrade is ridiculously low. The beauty of a front only as long as you do complete CTS-V pads is that the rear CTS-V and Camaro Calipers are the SAME. The master cylinder is compatible as is the ABS computer, Life is good when you stay in the GM house.

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Old 03-23-2010, 11:33 AM   #80
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I like! I agree - staying in house is always better than aftermarket - even when there are great companies to choose from.

Once I get more into my Camaro project, I see doing CTS-V fronts and SS rears with V pads all around...glad to know about this working so well!
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I like! I agree - staying in house is always better than aftermarket - even when there are great companies to choose from.

Once I get more into my Camaro project, I see doing CTS-V fronts and SS rears with V pads all around...glad to know about this working so well!
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Old 03-26-2010, 03:20 AM   #82
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Found this info on another forum...Double check with your suppliers before ordering.

CTS-V 6 Piston Calipers - 25912477 + 25912967
Rotors - 25851237 x2
Caliper pin kit - 25940448 x2
Pads - 25940447

CTS-V OEM Brake Upgrade Calipers - 20831807 + 20831782
Rotors - 20795300 + 20795302
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Old 03-27-2010, 02:23 AM   #83
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You never know what Pete will do. He will work with he CTS-V until he has maxed them out, then comes the ZR1 brakes! LOL

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Has anyone done a heads up comparison of before and after braking distances after changing from the SS Brembo package to the CTS-V Brembo package?
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Old 05-01-2010, 01:25 PM   #85
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Has anyone done a heads up comparison of before and after braking distances after changing from the SS Brembo package to the CTS-V Brembo package?
Doubtful you'll see shorter stopping distance... This is a good option for anyone wanting to reduce brake fade.
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Doubtful you'll see shorter stopping distance... This is a good option for anyone wanting to reduce brake fade.
The CTS V upgrade is all about consistency under the most demanding conditions, not that my car is ever pushed hard or anything like that. I have to say that for resale value.
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:41 AM   #87
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So... Has anyone else besides Pete done this mod?
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:16 AM   #88
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So... Has anyone else besides Pete done this mod?
Some one is sucking them up. Most all the CTS-V brake parts are on intergallatic back order. Some one is sucking them up. Our first serioes track testing was last week. The preliminary data shows exceptionally consistent braking over the runs. We had several other variables in play so we do not consider this data to be complete. We'll be back at the track soon and should be able to report on this with high quality data.
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Whoever is getting them isn't talking.... One of the supercar builders, maybe? Or GM for the new Z20something whatever they call it?
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I think it is Ford buying all of them up out of fear!!! LOL

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I think it is Ford buying all of them up out of fear!!! LOL

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It is taking forever to get my new front rotors. It took two weeks to get new front pads.
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We have done track testing with the new CTS-V brakes. The bias is absolutely PERFECT. The brakes are more consistent. We were not satisfied with the OE pad compound and that hurt the performance. It would be unfair to say that the OE pads are bad. We have the Pedders Camaro running laps as fast as race cars and weigh in ready for the track with driver at almost 4,200 pounds. That is a HUGE amount of weight to bring to a stop asking a lot from OE pads. We will upgrade the pads to a race compound from Cobalt Friction. We expect to see significant gains with these pads just as we did running the CF pads with the OE SS calipers and rotors. CTS-V brakes with the new pads will be off the charts.

We are also changing brake fluid to the latest greatest available. Here is the data we have on brake fluids and temperatures.

Here are the wet and dry boiling points for a number of top brands.

Motul RBF 600 has a very high dry boiling point of 593F (311C) and a wet boiling point of 420F (215C).

ATE Super Blue Racing Brake Fluid is a developed DOT 4 premium non-synthetic brake fluid with a wet boiling point of 400F (204C) and a dry boiling point of 536F (280C) a full 20 degrees higher than regular DOT 5 synthetic.

Wilwood EXP 600 Plus has tested to 626 degrees F with a wet boiling point of 417 F.

Motul RBF 660 Dry boiling point (325C / 617F) Wet boiling point (205C / 401F)

Amsoil 600 Dry boiling point 580 Wet boiling point 410


These are caliper and rotor temperatures we measured on a cool fall day at Gingerman. The readings are after a cool down lap and taken as soon as the cars stopped in the pit area. On a hot summer day these temperatures will be elevated which is why we are upgrading brake fluid.

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What is the reason for the driver side elevated temps on the brake rotors? The added weight of the driver? Right turns?

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What is the reason for the driver side elevated temps on the brake rotors? The added weight of the driver? Right turns?

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Brake fluid technology as become relatively complex during the last 10 years or so. And with complexity and technology improvements, the costs have esculated quite rapidly as well. However, in most brake fluids, you do get what you pay for!

One thing I thought I would mention is the differences between wet and dry boiling points. A million years ago when I first saw this term, I could not understand dry boiling points. Well here is a definition for both:


Dry boiling point is defined as the temperature at which fresh brake fluid from a new container will boil

Wet Boiling point of brake fluid is when it will boil when exposed to potential water absorption when installed in a system.

Great care needs to be done when using the high performance brake fluid. In many cases, the higher the boiling points the more sensitive they are to water absorption. So great care should be practiced when using them

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One thing I thought I would mention is the differences between wet and dry boiling points. A million years ago when I first saw this term, I could not understand dry boiling points. Well here is a definition for both:


Dry boiling point is defined as the temperature at which fresh brake fluid from a new container will boil

Wet Boiling point of brake fluid is when it will boil when exposed to potential water absorption when installed in a system.
A further clarification (in case anyone is interested):

The SAE test for wet boiling point is done with a fluid at a 3.7% moisture content. In a moderate climate, a car's brake fluid will absorb 1-1/2 to 2% moisture per year -- more in humid climates and less in arid ones.

So if we were concerned with the boiling point of 2-year-old fluid, the wet boiling point should be looked at. If we intend to use fresh fluid from a sealed container and keep it fresh by flushing after track days, the dry boiling point would be the primary concern.

After that, fluid recovery is a major issue. Castrol SRF, an excellent racing fluid, has a high dry boiling point, but weaker recovery properties (75%) than, say, AP Racing's PRF (95%). This is why many NASCAR teams choose PRF over SRF. If the fluid does boil, the PRF regains most of the pedal once slightly cooled whereas many other fluids are cooked permanently.

Moral of the story: Keep your fluid dry, just like your powder.

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Hi all,
joined up after reading this thread, drooling lots and then wanting to ask a question...

I own a holden WM Caprice (a LWB Pontiac G8) and am looking at brake upgrade options.

A number of G8 owners are using the stock Camaro (ss?) calipers and rotors as an upgrade. Its a bolt-on upgrade for the front (mounting point on the knuckle requires drilling out) and the rears require a small bracket to make fit ( although e-brake function is lost)

Given that the CTS-V front calipers and rotors are a bolt-on upgrade for the Camaro am I right in thinking that they would also be a bolt-on upgrade for the G8??

hope the above makes sense and someone might be able to confirm my logic is correct.

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Hi all,
joined up after reading this thread, drooling lots and then wanting to ask a question...

I own a holden WM Caprice (a LWB Pontiac G8) and am looking at brake upgrade options.

A number of G8 owners are using the stock Camaro (ss?) calipers and rotors as an upgrade. Its a bolt-on upgrade for the front (mounting point on the knuckle requires drilling out) and the rears require a small bracket to make fit ( although e-brake function is lost)

Given that the CTS-V front calipers and rotors are a bolt-on upgrade for the Camaro am I right in thinking that they would also be a bolt-on upgrade for the G8??

hope the above makes sense and someone might be able to confirm my logic is correct.

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WELCOME!!! And good points. These is definately something to seriously consider as an upgrade
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