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Old 03-17-2010, 10:20 AM   #1
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Subs - 10", 12" or two 10"

I am interested in putting in some bass with my BA factory system. I pm's Steve with Subthump and he suggested I might be good with a stealth enclosure. I thought I would also ask here.

I am not looking for anything crazy, I like rock, pop, and techno/electronica. I want sharp and clear not loud and attention drawing.

I am a bit more partial to a set up that goes in the pass through area versus that sides. Could I do a set up in the pass through area with just one sub?

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Old 03-17-2010, 10:29 AM   #2
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I have two 10" Fosgates with a kicker amp. I'd have to look at the amp to tell you the exact model. I had a VW GTI before the camaro didn't want a lot of bast to rattle everything lose so I got the two 10's and they had a very crisp bass. As soon as I have the dough I'm going to tuck one in each side of the Camaro's trunk and hope they sound just as good as they did in the hatch back VW
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Old 03-17-2010, 10:45 AM   #3
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I put in a single JL Audio 8" sub/encloser w/ Rockford Fosgate Punch 300.. PLENTY of Base..
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:34 AM   #4
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I have 2-10" ED's and love it!!!
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:19 PM   #5
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I have a 12' JL w3v3 in a ported box with new speakers all around, and 2 Rockford Fostgate amps, I suggest a 12" ported, sounds really nice but since you don't listen to rap, Im not sure if you should port it. But do you have a bugget? Also,you can do a stealth box, but its pricey,also 1 12" wont take up alot of room. I have my amps on the back of my seats,so Its perfect, I also have opened up a 10" box to 12" size, because I could fit a 12" ported box,I reccomend you do that
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:13 PM   #6
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I have the base audio system and just added a 10" sub in a sealed box. Sounds great!
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:15 PM   #7
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I'd recommend a single 10, sealed. Should be more then enough to take care of what you are after. Get something that can handle between 300-500wrms, give it that much power, and you'll be happy. If it's not enough, you can port the 10 and gain, in theory, 3db over the sealed setup which, again in theory, is twice as loud.

No reason why you can't put a single sub in the pass through area, with a 10 sealed, you should have the room to mount the amp right next to it!


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Old 03-18-2010, 11:15 AM   #8
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Old 03-18-2010, 11:44 AM   #9
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10" subthump with side enclosure, 250Watt amp is perfect!

I wanted to keep my pass through. If you want more power, go with a single 12" and bigger amp.

I'm Very happy with my system! GF always comments about her door shaking
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Old 03-18-2010, 11:46 AM   #10
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10" subthump with side enclosure, 250Watt amp is perfect!

I wanted to keep my pass through. If you want more power, go with a single 12" and bigger amp.

I'm Very happy with my system! GF always comments about her door shaking
That's a clean install. Subthump makes some good stuff.
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Old 03-18-2010, 12:03 PM   #11
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How about changing the 6x9s(size?) in the rear to 6x9 free air woofers. I know Kicker use to make them..hmmmm..just a thought.
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Old 03-18-2010, 12:15 PM   #12
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If you aren't looking for "make you ears bleed" bass, a single 10" (given the right manufacturer) is more than enough. That's what I have in my car. I recommend Infinity, I've been using them forever, but a lot of people like JL. If you decide to go the Infinity route, this is an awesome 10" sub for a great price:

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...mpaign=froogle

Here are some pics of my install. This is before I put in the subwoofer I linked to. I don't like any wires showing.



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Old 03-18-2010, 02:56 PM   #13
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The problem with the camaro is that when you add a sub you have to be carefull because with the back seats up you are trapping all the bass in your trunk and you might get alot of rattle. When I decide to do my audio I will replace the 2 6x9's in the back with 2 8" JL w7's. that way all the bass is in the car and alot less rattle in the trunk if any.
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Old 03-18-2010, 09:53 PM   #14
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I'm putting in 3 Subs and 3 Amps, and replacing all of the stock Boston's with Infinity's, etc etc. I should have it finished by the end of next week. I'll post some pics and especially tell you how it sounds. (Yes I'm leaving the stock radio).
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Old 03-18-2010, 10:03 PM   #15
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The problem with the camaro is that when you add a sub you have to be carefull because with the back seats up you are trapping all the bass in your trunk and you might get alot of rattle. When I decide to do my audio I will replace the 2 6x9's in the back with 2 8" JL w7's. that way all the bass is in the car and alot less rattle in the trunk if any.
That's what soundproofing is for.
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Old 03-18-2010, 10:03 PM   #16
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Anyone know the volume (cu ft) of the 10" Subthump side enclosure?
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Old 03-19-2010, 12:34 AM   #17
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could something like this. (this was done in a mazda 6 but could be done in the camaro as well.)

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Old 03-19-2010, 07:02 AM   #18
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That's what soundproofing is for.
Its called sound deadening not sound proofing. Ask any good installer and he will tell you the same, stuff like dynamat or edead will help but you will still get rattle.
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Anyone know the volume (cu ft) of the 10" Subthump side enclosure?
According to Steve's site the midsize side enclosure is .08 cu feet. The large side enclosure is 1.2 cu feet.

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Its called sound deadening not sound proofing. Ask any good installer and he will tell you the same, stuff like dynamat or edead will help but you will still get rattle.
LOL, whatever. You know what I meant.
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Old 03-19-2010, 09:56 AM   #21
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The problem with the camaro is that when you add a sub you have to be carefull because with the back seats up you are trapping all the bass in your trunk and you might get alot of rattle. When I decide to do my audio I will replace the 2 6x9's in the back with 2 8" JL w7's. that way all the bass is in the car and alot less rattle in the trunk if any.

dynomat>

No matter what you put in your car if you don't dynomat it's going to rattle.


Just put a 12 in there. Brands are pretty much all the same, but you do get what you pay for. If you roll with a 200watt amp don't expect much. I'd say 500 consistant on a speaker that handles 500 rms 1k peak would be very nice. One problem I notice is some people don't have enough wattage for the sound they want and it makes there system sound like crap.
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Dynamat, Second Skin, Roadkill (from Stinger) hushmat... they are all very similar. they are damping (not dampening) materials... they add mass to the metal surfaces (or plastic inthe case for door cards) to reduce the resonant frequency of the material to reduce vibration (not rattles) by doing so you increase the useable volume of your audio system because you are not having to overcome noise issues from the vehicle or outside. DONE PROPERLY you can increase the loudness of your audio system by 3dB (which is twice as loud).
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could something like this. (this was done in a mazda 6 but could be done in the camaro as well.)


That's what I was thinking Moriartti could do. That's a clean setup.


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Dynamat, Second Skin, Roadkill (from Stinger) hushmat... they are all very similar. they are damping (not dampening) materials... they add mass to the metal surfaces (or plastic inthe case for door cards) to reduce the resonant frequency of the material to reduce vibration (not rattles) by doing so you increase the useable volume of your audio system because you are not having to overcome noise issues from the vehicle or outside. DONE PROPERLY you can increase the loudness of your audio system by 3dB (which is twice as loud).

Done wrong, and it can drop score too! However, not something someone with a daily driver setup is going to be worried about, lol. Very good advice through and through though!
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here to learn all you need to know about sound deadener and its proper application. Application of CLD (aka dynamat) is only a piece of the overall puzzle.
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