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Old 07-01-2014, 05:29 PM   #251
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Old 07-01-2014, 05:52 PM   #252
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Old 07-01-2014, 06:15 PM   #253
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Yeah, I was an idiot and couldn't find this thread. Forgot it was a sticky...

Great advice as always Pete, thanks!
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Old 08-04-2014, 01:52 PM   #254
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Ok, gonna throw this out there for guidance. 2014 1LE, no suspension changes other than Pedders 220035's on the rear. Brought the rear down about 1/2 inch and leveled the car. Now, the alignment question. I primarilyl use the car for autox, no track days or hpde events currently. I'm seeing wear and pretty good wear at that on the outer edges. I know I need to adjust camber, but want to do so with street use still in mind. Thoughts on good numbers to start with and then expand after hitting another autox event this coming weekend? I am running a true square setup for autox, 20x10's all the way around with the stock size goodyears.
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Old 08-04-2014, 02:50 PM   #255
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I'll get a detailed post up today.
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Old 08-04-2014, 03:00 PM   #256
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I'll get a detailed post up today.
Thanks Pete. I know my issue is different from others as we only changed the height in the rear vs all around. Car looks fantastic, now just want to take advantage of that look.
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Old 08-04-2014, 03:33 PM   #257
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Wear on the outside edges of the front tires, correct?
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Old 08-04-2014, 04:46 PM   #258
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Yes an the rears are similar.
Rears in first pic, fronts second
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Old 08-04-2014, 05:36 PM   #259
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What is the split daily driver to AC miles?
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Old 08-04-2014, 05:49 PM   #260
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No daily. Just weekend cruises and I will be driving an add'l 1,000 miles to two events coming up. Only one with autox, which is LSFest in KY. That's a 700 mile round trip
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Old 08-04-2014, 10:27 PM   #261
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No daily. Just weekend cruises and I will be driving an add'l 1,000 miles to two events coming up. Only one with autox, which is LSFest in KY. That's a 700 mile round trip
Cool, we can be a bit more aggressive on the front camber.

Front Camber -1.25
Front Toe 0.00
Rear Camber as close to 0.50 as the tech can get it.
Rear Toe IN 0.12
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Thanks Pete. I'll be at the shop on Wed morning and we will get it set.
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Old 08-04-2014, 11:07 PM   #263
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Old 08-04-2014, 11:26 PM   #264
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Will do for sure.
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Old 08-04-2014, 11:30 PM   #265
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Alignment Help Thread

Forgot to ask as I didn't see it. Any changes to caster required? Oh and rear camber is positive or negative?
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Old 08-04-2014, 11:37 PM   #266
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Cool, we can be a bit more aggressive on the front camber.

Front Camber -1.25
Front Toe 0.00
Rear Camber as close to 0.50 as the tech can get it.
Rear Toe IN 0.12
Tear Total Toe IN 0.24
This is the setup I using for my 1LE:
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Old 08-05-2014, 09:27 AM   #267
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Oh and rear camber is positive or negative?
I really, really hope it's intended to be 'negative'.

Positive rear camber is the kind of crutch you use to make heavily understeering FWD cars think they want to turn.


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Old 08-05-2014, 09:53 AM   #268
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I really, really hope it's intended to be 'negative'.

Positive rear camber is the kind of crutch you use to make heavily understeering FWD cars think they want to turn.


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Old 08-12-2014, 10:40 PM   #269
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Old 08-22-2014, 08:50 AM   #270
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Old 09-13-2014, 04:01 PM   #271
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This is a PM i replied to yesterday and thought might be helpful to others.

can you tell me why this car is getting the rear camber it's showing? the tech claims that the alignment machine may need to be calibrated. they said to bring it back but I would rather find out first why then bring it back and tell them what's wrong


Rear Toe should be IN not OUT 0.12 per side. Toe out in the rear will adversly effect high speed straight line stability.

I am guessing the tech doesn't understand the toe and camber in the IRS work like an A-arm. When you move the toe thee camber changes and vice-versa. Tell him to loosen the toe eccentric bolt and have them in a neutral position, the eccentric not touching the 'fences' they adjust against. Then set the camber. As he adjusts the toe, readjust the camber. Repeat until you are close to the desired specs.
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Old 09-19-2014, 10:16 PM   #272
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Ok...I read most of the posts. I see the Pedders aggressive street settings but I'd like to go more aggressive. I don't daily drive and I'm not worried about tire wear. What are the setting I should set a ZL1 at for a primarily road course car?


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Old 09-19-2014, 11:18 PM   #273
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Ok...I read most of the posts. I see the Pedders aggressive street settings but I'd like to go more aggressive. I don't daily drive and I'm not worried about tire wear. What are the setting I should set a ZL1 at for a primarily road course car?


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Caster - No Factory Adjustment
Toe OUT 0.50 per side
Total Toe OUT 1.00
Camber -1.50

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Toe IN 0.12 per side
Rear Total Toe IN 0.24
Camber -0.50

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I should probably get my tires aligned...
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