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Old 03-20-2010, 11:47 AM   #1
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Video of ARH with Mast Stage II VVT cam

Here is a video from after we switched the exhaust out. Previously it had custom made mid-length 1 3/4" headers with a 2.5" collector and cat back. We traded someone with ARH 1 7/8" headers with a 3" collector and cat back. It felt like we got a little loss in low end.

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Old 03-20-2010, 12:45 PM   #2
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sounds mean! love the lope. That camera cannot handle that kinda power though
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Old 03-21-2010, 07:44 PM   #3
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Sound was too much so the headers were changed again this time to custom LT's in 1 3/4" with a 3" collector then stepped down to a 2.5" pipe with two Magnaflow resonators and two Magnaflow mufflers to quite the sound down a little.

Here is what they sound like now:
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:18 PM   #4
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You went to 1 3/4 headers from 1 7/8? Both longtubes? I would think that there is little to no difference in sound between these setups. I think what had the biggest impact on the sound is all the magnaflow mufflers you added. IMHO, you should've left the bigger longtubes on there.
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:09 PM   #5
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do you know the specs on the stage 2 cam
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:22 PM   #6
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Is that with no cats?
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:26 PM   #7
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that sounds awesome, not to get off subject, but how do we get our videos on here, I have my video from Jannetty racing on my camera and I have no clue how to put it on here, I know it looks like this video with the pic that looks like a negative when pictures are developed, please help.
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sounds great.
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Old 05-21-2010, 10:34 PM   #9
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do u need a new torque converter with the stage 2?
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Old 05-21-2010, 11:04 PM   #10
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Sounds great! Gotta love the sound and smell of a good cam
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Old 05-22-2010, 11:04 AM   #11
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The newest set up sounds much better. Dyno results by chance?
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Old 09-23-2010, 07:48 PM   #12
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How does the stage II cam drive? Any surging down low? What LSA did you get it on?
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Old 09-23-2010, 08:19 PM   #13
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do you know the specs on the stage 2 cam
I believe the cam specs are

Duration @ .050 224/238
Lift 578/585
LSA 115


Im also gettin the stage 2 VVT cam, kooks 1 7/8 headers off road mid pipes, DOD delete kit and a tune should be gettin my car back tomorrow with numbers for you guys....I also like the way your car sounded on the 1st video better then the 2nd video
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Old 09-24-2010, 11:21 AM   #14
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It drives great but I think we could have pulled a little more power out of it if we had gone with the non-VVT(ala LS3) cam like the LG.

I have the following specs for the Mast cams:

Stage 0 - PN 914-201
Duration @ .050 218/230
Lift 564/578
LSA 116


Stage 1 - PN 914-202
Duration @ .050 220/234
Lift 573/588
LSA 116


Stage 2 - PN 914-102
Duration @ .050 224/238
Lift 578/593
LSA 115


Stage 3 - PN 914-103
Duration @ .050 230/237
Lift 588/607
LSA 111

The specs may have changed since I got the info though.
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What were the final numbers??
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What were the final numbers??
Depends on which dyno, lol.

Here is one while trying to tune it with a bad knock sensor:


Here is another on a different dyno the next day with a different tuner:


And another after the bad knock sensor was replaced:


I was not able to get back on the same dyno I did a pull on before the cam went in because the were busy but here is the before dyno:


The before dyno was with custom 1 3/4 headers, ADM race CAI and tune.

The after was the same but with Mast Stage II VVT cam, WCCH ported heads and Vector ported intake.

I managed a best of 12.59 with the before combo and a 12.09 after. I am hoping to one day go back to the same dyno to get a true before and after graph.
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SRT10KLLR, The larger primary and 3" merge should smoke that 1-3/4" header, especially with a 2-1/2" collector. It's done it for us on more occasions than you can count. Would love to see a back to back dyno/drag test between the two.

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Sounds awesome J...

Those license plates must mean something hehehe...

"Mike" tuned that car?
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Old 09-27-2010, 04:13 PM   #19
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SRT10KLLR, The larger primary and 3" merge should smoke that 1-3/4" header, especially with a 2-1/2" collector. It's done it for us on more occasions than you can count. Would love to see a back to back dyno/drag test between the two.

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Everyone I talked to and everything I have read agrees with you but the testing at the track proved otherwise. The ARH's were the same to 1 tenth slower. The but dyno said we lost low end.

If you send some headers my way we can test them out again. We did not test with the giggle gas(200 shot) back to back though only NA. Maybe with the juice it would have gained.



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Sounds awesome J...

Those license plates must mean something hehehe...

"Mike" tuned that car?
He made some changes for the nitrous but the base was done by Matt and Tune Time. He will be redoing the whole thing when it gets back from the body shop and we up the shot to 300.
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Old 09-27-2010, 04:50 PM   #20
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Here are some pics of the custom mid-length 1 3/4" with 2.5" collector headers. Not much to look at especially all dirty but they allowed me to run a best of 12.59 with them along with a ADM Race CAI and tune.

After trying the ARH's the headers were switched to 1 3/4" with 3" collector. I have managed a best of 12.09 with the addition of the cam, heads, intake etc.



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SRT10KLLR, The larger primary and 3" merge should smoke that 1-3/4" header, especially with a 2-1/2" collector. It's done it for us on more occasions than you can count. Would love to see a back to back dyno/drag test between the two.

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Nick, do you think that is what is holding the car back on the spray? The headers being to small.

At the track with the nitrous tune(-12 degrees timing) I was doing 12.3-12.4 and only went 11.3 with the 200 shot. This was with a spare bottle my cousin had because the nitrous bottle with the Nano was empty from tuning it on the street prior to the track. The bottle did not have a gauge on it so I don't know what the pressure was but it was cold to the touch since the racing is during the night. I was hoping to do mid 10's that day.

Here are the vids and dyno sheet:





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