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Old 05-09-2011, 09:47 AM   #76
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[QUOTE=tom692010;3196609] That's a good one for a Monday morning[/QUOTE

This issue is not covered by a TSB! It is just a PI (product information) at this point from what I have been able to find out. This is not the same as a TSB and carries less weight.

As for "should" they do it - well, "should" is a good word to describe the situation. They "SHOULD" fix it but they will PROBABLY deny it and then it would be up to the car owner to fight that battle. No fun at all! :(

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Old 05-09-2011, 10:01 AM   #77
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Dec 14th '09 Lot of other chevrolets in this TSB(corvette,camaro,trucks and suv's)but i was one of the lucky ones that had the condtion and caught it in time to save the motor. had to service it myself because of all the Mods, Cam,Heads,exhaust. oh well my new hot rod right. it's only money$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Under the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act no dealership can deny warranty service or a TSB to your vehicle regardless of mods.

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Old 05-09-2011, 03:24 PM   #78
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That's a good one for a Monday morning[/QUOTE

This issue is not covered by a TSB! It is just a PI (product information) at this point from what I have been able to find out. This is not the same as a TSB and carries less weight.

As for "should" they do it - well, "should" is a good word to describe the situation. They "SHOULD" fix it but they will PROBABLY deny it and then it would be up to the car owner to fight that battle. No fun at all! :(

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I asked a service rep if my warranty would be void on my tranny because I installed a short shifter and ran Royal Purple fluid and he answered---Depends. Now that's total BS so I wouldn't be suprised at any denial of service. Just my thought!
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Old 05-10-2011, 09:27 PM   #79
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Under the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act no dealership can deny warranty service or a TSB to your vehicle regardless of mods.

Not sure which rule book you are reading...because GM can AND will deny TSB work on highly modified or tuned cars. They cannot deny doing RECALLS...but that is different than PI's or TSB's. Do a search around the net and even on here...they will deny.
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Under the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act no dealership can deny warranty service or a TSB to your vehicle regardless of mods.
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dam no vin range yet huh
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My 1SS doesn't have those 4way guages but dealership can install them, if this happens too often I will probably be switching back to Mustang 5.0 since Ford don't try to void warranties for sneezing too loud.. My personal opinion is we should have a good lawyer take GM to court for voiding warranties for stuff that definitely doesn't have squat to do with the problem. I have a Vararam no tune intake and after hearing all this I think I am going to keep it that way, no tune. Because of this GM is going to loose a customer or 2000, just saying
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Old 05-28-2011, 11:28 PM   #83
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My 1SS doesn't have those 4way guages but dealership can install them, if this happens too often I will probably be switching back to Mustang 5.0 since Ford don't try to void warranties for sneezing too loud.. My personal opinion is we should have a good lawyer take GM to court for voiding warranties for stuff that definitely doesn't have squat to do with the problem. I have a Vararam no tune intake and after hearing all this I think I am going to keep it that way, no tune. Because of this GM is going to loose a customer or 2000, just saying

What will you take them to court for? Because YOU signed the contract to purchased the car and accepted all stipulations of the Warranty? there are rules from GM, since they are the ones issuing the warranty..... its not mandatory or the law that you get any kind of warranty at all... so if you accept the warranty from GM... you accept the stipulations and rules they put on them... you dont like them? buy a Mustang... whatever gets you to stop ....
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:01 AM   #84
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geez, let's all get our panties in a bunch here.

If you read through the posts (there's only about 2323403430 of them, so you'll have to read through all the waaaaah), it really all depends on the dealer. There's been plenty of people here with aftermarket parts get warranty work taken care of. (see posts about output shaft & blower)

I would imagine some ford dealerships will be tightwads about aftermarket/warrenty issues too.

My feeling is that being that there's a TSB on the oilpump, if your oilpump fails, there really isn't any aftermarket part that is going to cause that to happen, so GM should step up to the plate and fix them. But I'll be doing a cam soon on mine and will absolutely be putting in a better oilpump at the same time. Dealers should at least be willing to do something to help out and not just say VOID! If that's the case, find a different dealer.
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Old 05-29-2011, 06:32 PM   #85
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So has anyone tried the rev thing? Where the gm tech said Dead rev it and it should unstick the valve? If mine comes on, I ain't skeered! I plan on keeping my oil changed about every 2k miles with synthetic oil.
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Old 05-30-2011, 12:03 AM   #86
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Oil pumps are relatively cheap for insurance. If your gonna Tune or Mod your engine... Just get a new Pump! its pretty simple...
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Oil pumps are relatively cheap for insurance. If your gonna Tune or Mod your engine... Just get a new Pump! its pretty simple...
its not the pump it self that is the problem, is the installation price that is the problem here. ya its probably worth it though. but there is not enough info on the forums about after market pumps. i feel like not a lot of people have after market ones.
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MikeSS I agree, not enough info here, but if your gonna mod you better invest in a pump, luckily we have these forums today to inform us of these issues! If you mod and want your engine to last its an investment you must make!!!
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Old 05-31-2011, 11:11 PM   #89
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So has anyone tried the rev thing? Where the gm tech said Dead rev it and it should unstick the valve? If mine comes on, I ain't skeered! I plan on keeping my oil changed about every 2k miles with synthetic oil.
not sure what you mean about the rev thing...can u explain it more...yea, i'm a little worried too with my headers and tune..
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It's sad that you pay 30-40k for a car and could possible have to pay another 5k on a new engine just because you tune it :/ where are the
GM reps on this one!???
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i had code P0521 'Engine Oil Pressure sensor/switch circuit range/performance" pop up back 4/09 after i installed the TT's which had me move the sender 2-3ft away. Has me worried again.
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I had driven my car about 50 miles taking my 87 year old Dad to see the doctor and stopped at a drug store to pick up his medicine. It took about 30 minutes to get this done so the car had cooled down a lot. Came out to start my car to leave and the DIC said low oil pressure shut off engine, I looked down at the oil pressure gauge and it showed no oil pressure. Had to have a roll back come and get the car. I am modified with a CAM and TVS 2300 supercharger but am taking it t the dealer on Friday to let them diagnose this. I checked my oil and it was spot on. We checked the connections to the oil pressure sending unit and all looked good. We tried starting it once more and I quickly heard some valve train noise and shut it off quickly so it ran twice for less than 5 seconds each time total. At that point I knew I had major issues, so we stopped at that point. Looked at the TSB on the oil pumps and this follows the sticking valve exactly like the bulletin says. Since the oil pump has never been touched and as we all know the mods I have done really could not have anything to do with this I am going to go the honest route and just put it in front of GM and see what happens. I may very well get turned down, I am going to be totally honest on this but someone is going to need to explain to me how my mods had anything to do with this. Wish me luck!
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I had driven my car about 50 miles taking my 87 year old Dad to see the doctor and stopped at a drug store to pick up his medicine. It took about 30 minutes to get this done so the car had cooled down a lot. Came out to start my car to leave and the DIC said low oil pressure shut off engine, I looked down at the oil pressure gauge and it showed no oil pressure. Had to have a roll back come and get the car. I am modified with a CAM and TVS 2300 supercharger but am taking it t the dealer on Friday to let them diagnose this. I checked my oil and it was spot on. We checked the connections to the oil pressure sending unit and all looked good. We tried starting it once more and I quickly heard some valve train noise and shut it off quickly so it ran twice for less than 5 seconds each time total. At that point I knew I had major issues, so we stopped at that point. Looked at the TSB on the oil pumps and this follows the sticking valve exactly like the bulletin says. Since the oil pump has never been touched and as we all know the mods I have done really could not have anything to do with this I am going to go the honest route and just put it in front of GM and see what happens. I may very well get turned down, I am going to be totally honest on this but someone is going to need to explain to me how my mods had anything to do with this. Wish me luck!
with your mods i would probs invest in a better pump over factory. i am VERY interested in what your dealership will say. it seem that some with modded cars get it fixed but at the same time some don't under warrnety.

i also worry about this happening to me, i would have to get my car towed hour away to a dealership that seems to be fair from what people say here.

good luck, and let us know whats going on.
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with your mods i would probs invest in a better pump over factory. i am VERY interested in what your dealership will say. it seem that some with modded cars get it fixed but at the same time some don't under warrnety.

i also worry about this happening to me, i would have to get my car towed hour away to a dealership that seems to be fair from what people say here.

good luck, and let us know whats going on.
Well they would not do anything for me, apparently the GM rep said no go. I thanked them for giving it a try (no mater how small it seemed to be LOL) We drained the fluids this evening and the good news nothing in the oil. We tore it most of the way down this evening and should be ready to pull the crank pulley on Wednesday. We have a Melling oil pump on the way. Should know if it lives or dies later in the week. I think if I had it to do over I would have changed the oil pump a long time ago.
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Well they would not do anything for me, apparently the GM rep said no go. I thanked them for giving it a try (no mater how small it seemed to be LOL) We drained the fluids this evening and the good news nothing in the oil. We tore it most of the way down this evening and should be ready to pull the crank pulley on Wednesday. We have a Melling oil pump on the way. Should know if it lives or dies later in the week. I think if I had it to do over I would have changed the oil pump a long time ago.
ya changing the pump does sound like a good idea for modded camaros. what pump are u going with ?
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ya changing the pump does sound like a good idea for modded camaros. what pump are u going with ?
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I just finished up installing the Melling HV 10296 oil pump. Test drove the car about 25 miles and it seems OK at this point. I apparently am a one of the lucky ones this time!
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I just finished up installing the Melling HV 10296 oil pump. Test drove the car about 25 miles and it seems OK at this point. I apparently am a one of the lucky ones this time!
How many miles were on your car when the pump went out?
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anyone know if there's a certain vin # range that's been affected? or should we all just hope ours don't fail?
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