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Old 03-24-2010, 10:57 AM   #1
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Thumbs up GM nears completion of twin-turbo V6 (LF3) to combat Fordís new EcoBoost engine

As reported on Homepage.

Per http://www.caradvice.com.au & http://www.gminsidenews.com
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A report from the US this afternoon says General Motors is close to completing a new, twin-turbocharged 3.0-litre V6 engine to combat Ford’s recently announced 3.5-litre EcoBoost unit, also twin-turbocharged.

According to a report from GM Inside News, several engineers at General Motors have confirmed the engine is in its later stages of development. The engine has been assigned the PRO code ‘LF3′ (GM’s naturally-aspirated 3.0-litre V6 has the PRO code ‘LF1′ – as pictured).

Although power and torque specifications have not yet been released, sources within the company say GM’s new twin-turbo V6 will produce similar figures to Ford’s 272kW offering – recently unveiled as the powerplant in Ford’s new Taurus-based Police Interceptor.

The report also said the new engine could find its way in to production cars as early as next year, possibly under the bonnet of the new Cadillac XTS.
Might we see this new twin turbo V6 engine in the V6 Camaro sometime in the near future?! We hope so!

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Old 03-24-2010, 10:59 AM   #2
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Old 03-24-2010, 10:59 AM   #3
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although it is amazing to hear, i feel like i just bought a 2010 stang and am getting punched in the face...just saying
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although it is amazing to hear, i feel like i just bought a 2010 stang and am getting punched in the face...just saying
Why feel that way? It's not like it's going to be in the 2011 camaro
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:39 AM   #6
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That engine is only 3.0 L, so how much more power will it deliver compared to a NA 3.6?
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That engine is only 3.0 L, so how much more power will it deliver compared to a NA 3.6?
I would guess somewhere between 25 and 40 more than the llt
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:46 AM   #8
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I remember saying it would be awesome to see a TT V6 and many hated the sound of it being thought of... Well now it seems those who hated it now like the idea...? I just thought that was kinda funny, not tryin to call anyone out either. But in my opinion it would be cool to see it made but it shouldn't be ranked better than the SS cause it's just not the same class, exaclty what I keep telling these 4 cyl owners with 500 +. HP
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:46 AM   #9
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I really don't understand the speculation about this engine in the V6 camaro. This engine would cost MORE than an LS3 or L99. As it is, the LLT is an expensive engine for this car. There is no way they will put a twin turbocharged V6 motor in a $23k camaro.
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:49 AM   #10
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That engine is only 3.0 L, so how much more power will it deliver compared to a NA 3.6?
I think I read that this will deliver almost as much power as the LS3?.... I may be mistaken but I'm sure that's what I seen
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:52 AM   #11
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I really don't understand the speculation about this engine in the V6 camaro. This engine would cost MORE than an LS3 or L99. As it is, the LLT is an expensive engine for this car. There is no way they will put a twin turbocharged V6 motor in a $23k camaro.
That probably why they mentioned it going into the new Cadillac and not the Camaro.
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Very interesting... Where does this position this engine in Camaro's line-up?...
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I would guess somewhere between 25 and 40 more than the llt
If that is the case then, I am happy with my engine. I will add on a Turbo in a couple years and blow by the TT 3.0
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so much for the saying: "there is no market for v6's"
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Old 03-24-2010, 12:36 PM   #15
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Very interesting... Where does this position this engine in Camaro's line-up?...
Imagine a "Leno-looker"...with 375 hp AND 30+ mpg...

Above a 2LT (but with Cloth), below a 1SS, price-wi$e...

...and then YES, there'd be some serious V6 demand...with a serious V6...
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I dont know youre still limited with the v6. Even if this twin turbo model got them up close to 400 HP I wouldnt be interested. It would be pretty well maxed out there with out spending some serious dough.
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Old 03-24-2010, 12:49 PM   #17
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Imagine a "Leno-looker"...with 375 hp AND 30+ mpg...

Above a 2LT (but with Cloth), below a 1SS, price-wi$e...

...and then YES, there'd be some serious V6 demand...with a serious V6...

Theres only a 2 grand difference in price at the most. If it were me, I'd just buy an SS.
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Old 03-24-2010, 01:30 PM   #18
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Old 03-24-2010, 01:31 PM   #19
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I dont know youre still limited with the v6. Even if this twin turbo model got them up close to 400 HP I wouldnt be interested. It would be pretty well maxed out there with out spending some serious dough.


Sorry, I just don't see that... name one engine from the manufacture that is "maxed out"... sorry Turbo Engines are easy to add more power too, if you know what youíre doing... start off with ECU, exhaust, intake... bet this puppy would respond very well.
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Sorry, I just don't see that... name one engine from the manufacture that is "maxed out"... sorry Turbo Engines are easy to add more power too, if you know what you’re doing... start off with ECU, exhaust, intake... bet this puppy would respond very well.
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Factory turbo motors take to very little modification very well!
A good tune aand a few minor bolt ons usually produces great gains and still amazing reliability.
Look at GM's LNF 2.0L Direct Injection Turbo 4cyl for an example. A good tune can net 40-55whp and a couple thousand bucks worth of bolt ons and 350-375whp is possible. Then take the same type of design such as Direct Injection and add 1.0L and 2 cyclinders and another Turbo and suddenly 400whp doesn't seem very maxxed out at all. Infact, it seems conservative for a bolt on and tuned v6tt.
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Old 03-24-2010, 01:47 PM   #21
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Agree with two post above this one - plus add bigger turbos and the HP output could easily match the LS3 and exceed the L99 engine.

Or exceed both...who knows
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Im not saying fully maxed out, obviously there are going to be some things that can be done but no way are you going to have nearly the flexibility you have with the LS3 or L99 that is half of the appeal of a v8 for me anyway.
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Now THAT would be a sweet setup for the V6 Camaros!!!

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this could be very interesting.
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I doubt severely this engine will become a V6 option in the Camaro. If it ever does, it'll be after the L99 and LS3 get direct injection. That being said I doubt the V8's will get DI before the next generation of high horsepower, small displacement V8's appear and make the L99 and LS3 obsolete.

As long as the L99 and LS3 remain unmodified or in the Camaro, dont expect a TT V6 in a sub SS trim.


I *could* see it however someday becoming a V6 option in the Cruze SS.
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