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Old 03-25-2010, 07:26 AM   #1
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Is this a wise purchase?

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-XC0PD19....html?tp=35782

I'm wanting to upgrade my factory sound. I didn't get the Boston Acoustics upgrade so I just have the standard 6 speaker system. For my tastes, I enjoy loud, clear music. The factory sound just isn't loud enough for me so, I figure adding an amp would do the trick. I'm just worried about clipping and blowing the factory speakers. Eventually, I'll upgrade the factory speakers but, that will be down the line. I'm not sure I'll ever get a sub enclosure so, I plan on using this amp for the front and rear speakers. Most of what I've read on these forums suggest people are only using an amp for the fronts and not the rears. What's the reasoning for this? I would think the rears would benefit from some extra power as well as the fronts. I appreciate any feedback I can get. thanks

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Old 03-25-2010, 09:56 AM   #2
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that is a decent amp but a just over 1 1/2 feet long and almost a foot wide that is huge. check this.....

http://www.arcaudio.com/productdescr...es/xxd4080.asp
this is a 4 channel amp with a small foot print. little over 300.00 for the amp but good power and easyier to hide. (you could actually probably install this in the same location as the factory put the BA Amp. or just tuck up under the rear package tray. they also make a 5ch versionof this that adds in the sub channel if you want a subwoofer (definately will improve the sound)
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Old 03-25-2010, 10:00 AM   #3
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I would suggest you role over to Sound Solutions Audio and check things out, specifically Sundown Audio. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.

Or check out ******** and what Steve sells.

Both have excellent products and even better customer service.
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Old 03-25-2010, 12:50 PM   #4
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No way man do not get that amplifier, rockford fosgate 4 channell amplifier is better quality and cheaper, and if you have the bone stock speakers, i wouldnt reccomend putting an amplifier to them, I just replaced mine I will put a picture up of them, there horrendously cheap.
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Old 03-25-2010, 12:52 PM   #5
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This is the best option you will find, I swear on it, will never over heat, a little big, but I have two of these size amps on the back of my seat, and its perfect, and its only 200$.
http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/produ...en_US&p_status=
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Old 03-25-2010, 01:42 PM   #6
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http://www.crutchfield.com/S-XC0PD19....html?tp=35782

I'm wanting to upgrade my factory sound. I didn't get the Boston Acoustics upgrade so I just have the standard 6 speaker system. For my tastes, I enjoy loud, clear music. The factory sound just isn't loud enough for me so, I figure adding an amp would do the trick. I'm just worried about clipping and blowing the factory speakers. Eventually, I'll upgrade the factory speakers but, that will be down the line. I'm not sure I'll ever get a sub enclosure so, I plan on using this amp for the front and rear speakers. Most of what I've read on these forums suggest people are only using an amp for the fronts and not the rears. What's the reasoning for this? I would think the rears would benefit from some extra power as well as the fronts. I appreciate any feedback I can get. thanks

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If you're going to add an amp to the factory non-BA speakers, you better make sure you crank the gain way down regardless of what amp you go with.

I can't imagine the factory paper cone speakers are designed to take much more power than they're currently receiving.
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let's clear one small thing up.... yes factory speakers suck.... but there is nothign wrong with paper cones. most higher end speakers are made of some type of paper cone. the reason being is they are more transient and musical than any plastic cone will ever hope to be. sorry for the small rant just wanted to make that clear. Sorry back to topic.
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Old 03-25-2010, 03:54 PM   #8
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The stock non BA speakers are the cheapest stock stock speakers i've ever seen, but I do agree to turn the gain down alot.
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Old 03-25-2010, 04:33 PM   #9
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that is a decent amp but a just over 1 1/2 feet long and almost a foot wide that is huge. check this.....

http://www.arcaudio.com/productdescr...es/xxd4080.asp
this is a 4 channel amp with a small foot print. little over 300.00 for the amp but good power and easyier to hide. (you could actually probably install this in the same location as the factory put the BA Amp. or just tuck up under the rear package tray. they also make a 5ch versionof this that adds in the sub channel if you want a subwoofer (definately will improve the sound)
For the size, and cost, mixed with it's ratings, that's a good buy right there. And I'd jump all over that before any Rockford Fosgate junk. Sorry, but RF sold out long ago, and their products and quality has suffered for it.

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I would suggest you role over to Sound Solutions Audio and check things out, specifically Sundown Audio. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.

Or check out ******** and what Steve sells.

Both have excellent products and even better customer service.
Cheers
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Sadly, Sundown doesn't offer anything four channel. SSA does carry Incriminator Audio, which has a 4 channel, but cost and size will go to the ArcAudio listed above. Of course, SSA does offer one seriously nice 6 channel, for about twice the price of that ArcAudio 4, lol.

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let's clear one small thing up.... yes factory speakers suck.... but there is nothign wrong with paper cones. most higher end speakers are made of some type of paper cone. the reason being is they are more transient and musical than any plastic cone will ever hope to be. sorry for the small rant just wanted to make that clear. Sorry back to topic.

To add to this, factory speakers can handle more then you think. If the signal is clean, and crossedover properly, factory speakers can indeed sound good and handle a bit of power. Adding a true, standalone aftermarket amp can indeed liven up a factory speaker, until one can change them out if wanted.
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Old 03-25-2010, 04:40 PM   #10
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There are so many ways to do this, but if i were you i would upgrade the speakers first. Or if you dont and add a amp turn the gain all the way down either way they are going to sound like crap with a amp on them.

IMO change out the speakers first, then access if you want to add more power
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Old 03-25-2010, 04:42 PM   #11
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amp power is just going to make the speakers weaker and more poping. Everyone has their favorite brand, mine is Kicker, yet someone else like sony, eclipse, ect.. if you not wanting to spend alot of money do some research. just dont think buying a amp is going to make it soud better because its not
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There are so many ways to do this, but if i were you i would upgrade the speakers first. Or if you dont and add a amp turn the gain all the way down either way they are going to sound like crap with a amp on them.

IMO change out the speakers first, then access if you want to add more power
Not trying to be an ass, but that's wrong. The speakers are reproducing the signal given to them. If the signal is clipped, or distorted, then that's what the speaker will reproduce. Speakers really only start sounding bad under a few conditions, too much power being applied causing the speaker to overexort, meaning reaching mechanical limits, and being crossed over wrong, thus making the speaker reproduce a signal that it's not designed to handle, ie; a 4" cone trying to drop a 20hz note. If it doens't have the displacment capability, it'll sound bad trying to do it.

Add an aftermarket amp, set your crossovers right, and those factory speakers will sound night and day different from the factory setup. Add a sub to take care of the lowend, and one will be set. Seriously, I've driven factory speakers with well over 75wrms, no issues, good sound, all due to a quality amp and proper settings. Set them wrong, and you'll be replacing them before you know it.
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amp power is just going to make the speakers weaker and more poping. Everyone has their favorite brand, mine is Kicker, yet someone else like sony, eclipse, ect.. if you not wanting to spend alot of money do some research. just dont think buying a amp is going to make it soud better because its not
Wow, you really don't know anything about a proper setup do you?

Please don't listen to this fellow, lol. IAS posted a great product, go that route! Avoid Polk Audio like you would montej23 car audio advice, like the plague
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Old 03-25-2010, 04:52 PM   #14
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I know what i am talking about i have been installing systems for a while, but what do i know ive done professional installs for kicker so take my advise or not. I don't care just hate to see people lead the wrong direction mrray13
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