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Old 09-30-2008, 11:12 PM   #1
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Break In Period?!?!?!

I just wanted to know what everyone's thoughts of what a GOOD break in would be for the new camaro...I know some may have disbelief that it doesn't really matter but I disagree. I have read many threads on other cars break ins, but wanted to see what everyone else will do with their camaro once driven off the lot...

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500 easy miles...then do 3-5 WOT's during its trip up to 1500 miles...after that...all hell will break loose!!! Haha j/k but thats my plan...
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:37 PM   #2
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I will be varying the rpms during the first few 100 miles with regular oil. Not quite at redline...but I'll get up there. The goal is to seat the piston-rings well at all speeds, and the worst thing you can do (so I've read) is to keep a steady highway speed, for instance. Turns out going easy can actually cause more harm than good in the long-run...Anyways, I'll switch to (or back to) synthetic, and have some fun.
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:03 AM   #3
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I plan on running it differently for the first 500 hundred then after that it all depends my mood
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:19 AM   #4
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how much difference does the break in actually make?
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:21 AM   #5
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how much difference does the break in actually make?
From what i have heard, GM breaks in there motors before they are even placed in the vehicles, at least in the vettes, but its really more of a safety feeling for the driver but you should be able to drive it how you want right off the lot.
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:25 AM   #6
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From what i have heard, GM breaks in there motors before they are even placed in the vehicles, at least in the vettes, but its really more of a safety feeling for the driver but you should be able to drive it how you want right off the lot.
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:41 AM   #7
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Here is a useful link!

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
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Old 10-01-2008, 01:50 AM   #8
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I'm going to vary my driving the first 2k miles always below 5k RPM though. After that I will drive however I feel, I will also put my car on the dyno after 2k miles.

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In the owner's manual, Corvette with LS3 is 500 miles under 55mph. No full throttle starts, no engine braking downshifting - manual trans. 200 miles brake pad seating - light braking.

Now, I have no problem with everything except the keep it below 55 mph. Not many make that in a Corvette or Camaro SS.

Oh, and no constant speeds.
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:10 AM   #10
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in the end. i dont car what it takes to break in my camaro. i will do anything i have to, to make sure she is in prestine condition. even if that means driving under 55mph. thats what my 78 camaro is for. lol.
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Old 10-01-2008, 05:53 AM   #11
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I just wanted to know what everyone's thoughts of what a GOOD break in would be for the new camaro...I know some may have disbelief that it doesn't really matter but I disagree. I have read many threads on other cars break ins, but wanted to see what everyone else will do with their camaro once driven off the lot...

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500 easy miles...then do 3-5 WOT's during its trip up to 1500 miles...after that...all hell will break loose!!! Haha j/k but thats my plan...
You don't really need to do much for break in these days. Just take it easy the first 500, don't hold a steady speed for a long distance. During the 500 miles get it out on the highway and do some 1/2 throttle runs up to highway speed then let off the gas and let it coast down in gear to 40 or so then back up. That helps seat the rings quicker.
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First thing...READ THE OWNER"S MANUAL!!! It will tell you everything you need to know...

Mine says, keep it under 70, no full throttle starts, no downshift braking, vary your speed, no constant speeds and no hard braking for the first 500 miles.
Change your oil for the first time at 3,000 miles then as the oil life monitor indicates afterwards... (I usually change my oil at the 50% reading on the OLM)
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Old 10-01-2008, 06:35 AM   #13
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You don't really need to do much for break in these days. Just take it easy the first 500, don't hold a steady speed for a long distance. During the 500 miles get it out on the highway and do some 1/2 throttle runs up to highway speed then let off the gas and let it coast down in gear to 40 or so then back up. That helps seat the rings quicker.
Txturbo, why is it that you DO NOT want to hold a steady speed for a long period of time?

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Old 10-01-2008, 06:49 AM   #14
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You don't really need to do much for break in these days. Just take it easy the first 500, don't hold a steady speed for a long distance. During the 500 miles get it out on the highway and do some 1/2 throttle runs up to highway speed then let off the gas and let it coast down in gear to 40 or so then back up. That helps seat the rings quicker.
+1, don't hold a steady speed for a long distance.

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
this article seems to make sense too.
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Txturbo, why is it that you DO NOT want to hold a steady speed for a long period of time?

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Rings won't seat. Varying the speed during break-in assures the rings seat correctly. My ex-father-in-law had the motor in his 69 Ford pickup rebuilt once. Didn't need it cause he drives like an old lady, but he wanted to go through everything on the truck. After the rebuilt motor was put back in he still drove it the way he always had driven it before. Rings never seated and it was using oil at 3000 miles. He finally had to pay the mechanic to pull the motor back out, rehone the cylinders and keep it for a couple of weeks to break it in for him. He just couldn't drive it hard enough to seat the rings. Pretty pathetic.
Anyway, nowadays the motors are run for 24 hours on a break-in dyno before they are even installed in the vehicle. But you still should take it easy the first 500 miles.
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Old 10-01-2008, 07:39 AM   #16
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drive it like i stole it basically. no steady speed, at lest in the same gear. romping on it to about 5800rpm and then engine breaking it to idle. repeating for about fifty miles then driving like normal, normal for me is basically driving like i stole it anyway.
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yes, the owner's manual should have a suggested break in period. Personally I go pretty easy for the first 1,000 miles.
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Rings won't seat. Varying the speed during break-in assures the rings seat correctly. My ex-father-in-law had the motor in his 69 Ford pickup rebuilt once. Didn't need it cause he drives like an old lady, but he wanted to go through everything on the truck. After the rebuilt motor was put back in he still drove it the way he always had driven it before. Rings never seated and it was using oil at 3000 miles. He finally had to pay the mechanic to pull the motor back out, rehone the cylinders and keep it for a couple of weeks to break it in for him. He just couldn't drive it hard enough to seat the rings. Pretty pathetic.
Anyway, nowadays the motors are run for 24 hours on a break-in dyno before they are even installed in the vehicle. But you still should take it easy the first 500 miles.
Thank you for explaining that, very helpful, I do not know very much about engines, well not yet.
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Break in period is one of the things I hate the most about buying a new car. I live in a small town where almost all driving is done at 35 mph, even on the country roads you can only go 45 due to the sharp curves so breaking in an engine is quite hard to do here :(
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Check out this site about how to break in engines. I plan to follow this method.
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Why are there so many different theorys on breaking in the car? It's in the owner's manual, why wouldn't that be your best resource? Think about it, they designed and built the engine wouldn't they know what would be best???

Some of these sites you see on how to break in an engine are for rebuilt engines, not those that come in new cars.

Just do what the Manual says and you will be fine, it is as simple as that.
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Why are there so many different theorys on breaking in the car? It's in the owner's manual, why wouldn't that be your best resource? Think about it, they designed and built the engine wouldn't they know what would be best???

Some of these sites you see on how to break in an engine are for rebuilt engines, not those that come in new cars.

Just do what the Manual says and you will be fine, it is as simple as that.

Theres nothing wrong with going with what the owner's manual says to do. Thats perfectly fine. But to be honest, I bought a BMW 135i about 3 months ago and this same topic came out about break in periods. Well the owner's manual was a suggestion but more and more people agreed that they wouldn't like to do it this way. The owner's manual is just a "recommended" break in for the car. Those who have posted their opinions on what they think is the best way can come from many other sources. In theory, in a new engine there is this "unlocked" power in it. Meaning someone may get more hp out of their engine if they have a different break in period. Which IMO is true. I'll see if I can find the thread on the 135i site I use, but alot people came out with different numbers in their engines after break in. It may or may not have been due to their style of break in, but who knows?
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Theres nothing wrong with going with what the owner's manual says to do. Thats perfectly fine. But to be honest, I bought a BMW 135i about 3 months ago and this same topic came out about break in periods. Well the owner's manual was a suggestion but more and more people agreed that they wouldn't like to do it this way. The owner's manual is just a "recommended" break in for the car. Those who have posted their opinions on what they think is the best way can come from many other sources. In theory, in a new engine there is this "unlocked" power in it. Meaning someone may get more hp out of their engine if they have a different break in period. Which IMO is true. I'll see if I can find the thread on the 135i site I use, but alot people came out with different numbers in their engines after break in. It may or may not have been due to their style of break in, but who knows?
There is strong evidence that suggests that wear causes an engine to lose power. There is also strong evidence that different break-in techniques may prevent said wear. Therefore, we can conclude that a specific type of break-in may improve the life of an engine. The one that I posted has been tested, showing better piston ring seals. That reduces pressure and improves piston life.
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Theres nothing wrong with going with what the owner's manual says to do. Thats perfectly fine. But to be honest, I bought a BMW 135i about 3 months ago and this same topic came out about break in periods. Well the owner's manual was a suggestion but more and more people agreed that they wouldn't like to do it this way. The owner's manual is just a "recommended" break in for the car. Those who have posted their opinions on what they think is the best way can come from many other sources. In theory, in a new engine there is this "unlocked" power in it. Meaning someone may get more hp out of their engine if they have a different break in period. Which IMO is true. I'll see if I can find the thread on the 135i site I use, but alot people came out with different numbers in their engines after break in. It may or may not have been due to their style of break in, but who knows?
You cannot say the differences in power were because of how the cars were broken in, there are just too many variables, there are manufactureing tolerances, and you never know if your engine was on the "LOOSE" side or "TIGHT" side or perfect, anyhow if you dyno it for rear wheel HP then any differences in engine, transmission etc will be reflected in those figures. I have bought many new cars and always followed the manual, and have never had an engine related failure...

The engine computers are very smart and record various aspects of how a car is driven, say you got a bad engine and it messed up and you take it back to the dealership? would they be more likely to fix it under warrenty if

A. you followed the recommended break in.
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B. Beat the hell out of it?
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There is strong evidence that suggests that wear causes an engine to lose power. There is also strong evidence that different break-in techniques may prevent said wear. Therefore, we can conclude that a specific type of break-in may improve the life of an engine. The one that I posted has been tested, showing better piston ring seals. That reduces pressure and improves piston life.
tested and proven by whom?
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