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Old 04-09-2010, 01:02 PM   #26
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My question would be, is the Camaro the only GM car that uses this paint process?
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My wifes 09 Avalanche that we bought in December already has over a dozen paint issues
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Old 04-10-2010, 08:44 AM   #27
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Chips A'Hoy

Well, wife went from Richmond Va. to Loudon Cty. along I-95. I told her to take the o6 Silverado but no I'll take the Camaro. Now has six nice stone chips, one on the passanger side mirror, two on the right side of the hood, and a couple more on the left side of the bumper fascia. Car only has 1850 mile on it since purchased last July. Ready to sell it and move on !! Nice loking paint but very poor durability.
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Old 04-10-2010, 10:03 AM   #28
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Well, wife went from Richmond Va. to Loudon Cty. along I-95. I told her to take the o6 Silverado but no I'll take the Camaro. Now has six nice stone chips, one on the passanger side mirror, two on the right side of the hood, and a couple more on the left side of the bumper fascia. Car only has 1850 mile on it since purchased last July. Ready to sell it and move on !! Nice loking paint but very poor durability.
Sell? Really? Just get it re-painted the same color at a shop.
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Old 04-10-2010, 10:16 AM   #29
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Well is only my front fascia that's chipping. When I looked at it i was surprised to see that there's no primer applied under the paint, I'm not done with the dealer yet.
No primer.... that's interesting. I would like to see where that leads.
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My car has 5800 miles on it and my dealer told me that GM is going to repaint my gills and front bumper as a one time deal under warranty. They also told me that the splash gaurds are the only fix to keep the front tires from slinging rocks. I have heard that the EPA is making GM use water based paint on there cars and trucks it is very soft and thin paint. I dont know how good a muscle car would look with mud flaps. I guess ill 3m like everyone else.
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Old 04-10-2010, 02:47 PM   #31
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Paint Issues

Mine has more paint defects than chips like dust under the yellow paint and debris in the clear coat, but I do have 3 chips on my roof that I noticed when the car had around 300-400 miles.

I have no idea how they got there and they may have been on the car when I bought it. Maybe they got there from the ride on the delivery truck. It's so overwhelming when you buy the car to see everything. Only after you start washing and waxing do you start to notice this stuff.

The clear coat scratches easy and the color coat is very thin. Actually the clear & color coats are very thin.

It looks like my car has 4 layers, a white coat, a black, the yellow color of the car, and the clear coat. If it get a tiny chip the chip will be black, a bigger chip will be white.

Does anyone know what the 1st white coat of paint is and the next thin black coat before the yellow color of the car??? Is one a powder coat primer & the other like a in between sealer???
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Old 04-10-2010, 04:31 PM   #32
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Mine has the same small chips as everyone else on the front. Im lucky that I dont have any on the hood or the gill area. My chips are mostly with the black underneath :(
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Old 04-10-2010, 09:16 PM   #33
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yeah i have at least 25-30 chips and no im not kidding. oh and my front fascia/bumper are getting 'beat up' way too fast. i just decided i will have to get it repainted like 5-8 years from now and then clear some clear bra 3m put on. i think its too late for me now.
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Old 04-10-2010, 09:47 PM   #34
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GM is repainting these areas as a one time deal take your car to the dealer and have them take pics of the chipped areas to show GM. Im getting my car painted on tuesday and then clear bra installed dont wait 5-8 years
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Old 04-10-2010, 09:53 PM   #35
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Just have your car wet sanded and re-cleared and it will solve the problem, PPG 3000
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Old 04-10-2010, 10:10 PM   #36
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My car has 5800 miles on it and my dealer told me that GM is going to repaint my gills and front bumper as a one time deal under warranty. They also told me that the splash gaurds are the only fix to keep the front tires from slinging rocks. I have heard that the EPA is making GM use water based paint on there cars and trucks it is very soft and thin paint. I dont know how good a muscle car would look with mud flaps. I guess ill 3m like everyone else.
What power does the EPA have to regulate that. Aren't these cars painted and assembled in Canada? Are you referring to Canadian enviro regs.

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GM is repainting these areas as a one time deal take your car to the dealer and have them take pics of the chipped areas to show GM. Im getting my car painted on tuesday and then clear bra installed dont wait 5-8 years
Does that mean that GM has recognized the problem. More importantly, does that mean it will no longer be an issue in the future? I'm hoping to order a 2011 as soon as possible, but this paint issue has me worried. My parents have an 05 Mustang, and it only has about 2 or 3 paint chips (in 5 years). Based on what everyone is saying, the chipping on the Camaro obviously isn't normal.
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Old 04-10-2010, 11:05 PM   #37
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heres my paint chip post. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71909
I took my car to the dealer where i purchased the car, told them i wasnt happy and they fixed it. I would have got the car back this week but they broke the inner door handle assembly removing my doors and they said the part is hard to get and wasnt avalable for order until thurs. hopefully i get the car back on mon or tues day of next week i will post after pics and a copy of my invoice so that if anyone whose dealer is being an a$$ about fixing it u can show them a print off showing that its being done. good luck
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Old 04-10-2010, 11:19 PM   #38
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Thanks and I will be interested in the invoice so when I take the car to the dealer I have something to fall back on.
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Old 04-10-2010, 11:20 PM   #39
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Just have your car wet sanded and re-cleared and it will solve the problem, PPG 3000
Im not a paint expert but if your chip is down to the black or white parts of the layers how is the clear going to help that? It would have to have the base coat repainted or at least thats what I am thinking :dunno:
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That is what i have just heard about the epa thing probably just bs. My dealer tech said that it is true about it being a water based paint. With all of the complaints hopefully newer model cars will not have this paint on them.
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Old 04-11-2010, 09:40 AM   #41
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Just have your car wet sanded and re-cleared and it will solve the problem, PPG 3000
because the clear and paint is so thin, if ya try and sand it, your going to go thru it....I do custom paint and have seen this many times...

I took mine back to the Dealer after 4K miles. My gill areas look like they have dirt all over them after a wash...30-40 or so small chips. Dealer is re-painting this area under warr. on Tues. and I'm having the splash guards put on.

I figure after a couple years I'll break down and put some real paint on it with some graphix or airbrush.

As for the EPA...yes water base is the future of our paint and it does Suck...Its no wheres near as hard as a good Base coat Clear coat finish!
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Old 04-12-2010, 12:25 AM   #42
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A most definite chipping problem. My Camaro had more chips at 4000 miles than my two other cars combined, one with 90K and the other with 50K miles. Most chips are on the rear quarter panels near the fake vents. This paints chips extremely easily.
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Old 04-12-2010, 07:27 AM   #43
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GM is repainting these areas as a one time deal take your car to the dealer and have them take pics of the chipped areas to show GM. Im getting my car painted on tuesday and then clear bra installed dont wait 5-8 years
who would i talk to? salesman? service dept.?
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Old 04-12-2010, 07:31 AM   #44
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yeah i have chips on the gills, hood,front bumper,doors, one on the roof and even a chip way up by the gas cap. it sucks but its just not our camaros taking this abuse i heard its all the new cars/trucks due to the water base paint. i know there was i national geo show on how the camaro is built in the factory and they show the whole painting process. i missed the show but i ordered it on DVD.
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Old 04-12-2010, 07:41 AM   #45
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because the clear and paint is so thin, if ya try and sand it, your going to go thru it....I do custom paint and have seen this many times...

I took mine back to the Dealer after 4K miles. My gill areas look like they have dirt all over them after a wash...30-40 or so small chips. Dealer is re-painting this area under warr. on Tues. and I'm having the splash guards put on.

I figure after a couple years I'll break down and put some real paint on it with some graphix or airbrush.

As for the EPA...yes water base is the future of our paint and it does Suck...Its no wheres near as hard as a good Base coat Clear coat finish!
Nope,

I am having mine wet sanded and re-cleared. I had a couple of chips on the front fascia, but I also had a door ding that was repaired. Since I did not want any orange peel in my paint and after talking with a custom painter, he did a test on the door that had to be repaired anyway. He was able to wet sand the door and take out the orange peel without getting into the color. I also had him remove the vinyl stripes and he painted them on, then he buried them in clear so that no edge could be felt.

So it was easy for me to decide, since the hood, rear deck lid and one door was having to be re-cleared and I didn't want orange peel, I had him sand the entire car and re-clear it. After he cleared it he then sanded it down again, buffed and polished it. He didn't like one fender so he sanded it down and re-cleared it Friday, so it should be ready Tuesday a.m.

He also filled the rear emblem holes ( welded them up ) and painted my Heritage grill. Once this is complete I will post pictures. One thing I can say 100% is there is NO trash, fisheyes or anything in my paint. Cost was 2700.00
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:52 AM   #46
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Washed mine again this morning, 5000+ miles, I still have no chips in the paint that I can see...
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:15 AM   #47
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Washed mine again this morning, 5000+ miles, I still have no chips in the paint that I can see...
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Same

Some of us here in NJ have the same issue. My issues stem from the shoulder of the car, some on the gills (not much). Car has 7K miles on it and will be brought back to the dealer this weekend and opened a ticket with GM. Even one of our members with the stupid flares is complaining that he has several chips! My Co-worker who lives 4 miles from work has had his car a month now and bam 20-30 chips. I think it is a shame that i bought a 06 Civic ran it 70K miles and the only paint problems i ever had was from a lady running into the back of my car. 2010 Camaro, 10 months and several little bubbles or white spots. The car is kept clean, i don't get it. Hopefully they fix this issue.
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who would i talk to? salesman? service dept.?
I just called the dealership and asked for the service dept. I told them my issue and they told me to bring the car over to take pic of the damaged area. 2 days passed and i got a call from the service dept telling me that gm is going to paint my car under warranty only once. Goes in tomorrow, should have it back in a week
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