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Old 03-29-2010, 05:30 AM   #1
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Home made CAI, comments and suggestions

Built this with 4'' tube, aluminum and angled plastics. Products made by Spectre found at any pep boys. 4'' K&N. 3/8 hose and hose adapter kit for the vacuum line. Spent maybe $120 total. I also have the GMPP axel back Borla track pack cans, and Cat delete. Its a screaming monster. Looking for suggestions where to go next, Suspension?? Start saving for the cam and tune?? Or any other ideas????


Updated version, Rearranged the angels and straitened the system through the advice and ideas from the fellow camaro elite



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Old 03-29-2010, 05:34 AM   #2
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Old 03-29-2010, 05:51 AM   #3
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Looks nice, but you need a baffle. Otherwise, it's counter-productive- you'll be sucking in hot air from under the hood
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Old 03-29-2010, 06:35 AM   #4
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Looks nice, but you need a baffle. Otherwise, it's counter-productive- you'll be sucking in hot air from under the hood


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Old 03-29-2010, 07:39 AM   #5
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ditto +3.you may also get a slight air restriction with the short black elbow.
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Old 03-29-2010, 08:09 AM   #6
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whats the butt dyno say? unless your enclosed you all are most likely getting SOME hot air...

After talking with Vararam, the engineer i spoke to ( for 2 hours) said all the current CAi don't even support the stock engine.


though i still have an ADM s/c street.

I was at pep boys the other day....and i was looking at those same products....thinking...."i could make that."!!!!

Good job, might wanna save the filter and get a muffler shop to mandrel bend a pipe and configure a block off...otherwise i would have done the same thing.
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Old 03-29-2010, 08:57 AM   #7
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Old 03-29-2010, 10:14 AM   #8
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Looks like a really hard angle. That will have a negative effect on air flow. You also need to block off the hot air from the engine. Just build a simple air box around the filter. Looks good.
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After talking with Vararam, the engineer i spoke to ( for 2 hours) said all the current CAi don't even support the stock engine.
WOW, that is a Bold Statement.

ADM has been over 900 RWHP but does not support stock engines
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The hard angel at the 90' degree boot could be replaced with a bigger sweeping boot, But looking at most aftermarket CAI's they have the same angle right next to the throttle body. Buying sheets of tin to start my Heat shield today. I wish I had a dyno to run it on
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Old 03-29-2010, 03:56 PM   #11
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Very nice HAI you built. You do need to partition off the filter to make it a CAI instead of a HAI (Hot Air Intake)...
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That is todays project. No more HAI bashing coming my way
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Old 03-29-2010, 05:25 PM   #13
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Old 03-29-2010, 05:27 PM   #14
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Very nice HAI you built. You do need to partition off the filter to make it a CAI instead of a HAI (Hot Air Intake)...

To build a heat shield would not be difficult at all. BUT does anyone know for sure the difference. In a shop on the dyno, mehhh. But I drive my Camaro, lots of wind and the natural elements of outside... I know i sound stupid, But to get the true effects of a CAI I would have to fabricate some sort of air induction through the grill, partnered with a heat shield. ANYONE have experience with this??

(don't be a hater and answer Company's have great experience... They are just dudes in a garage as well)
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Nice job on the homemade.... I would have to agree with others that without a box / dam, it will suck some in some hot under hood air, but I don't have any data to prove that.

But anyway, JANNETTYRACING did a test of 6-7 different manufacturers CAI's, you could maybe get some ideas from that. Rumor is that there is another test in the works.

It seems that there was another guy (can't remember his name right now), but he did some logging of intake temp's in that same thread, he may have some info to help prove it.
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Looks good. I just checked the price of the K&N kit for that engine and its like 360 bucks! I like your $120 homemade that does the same thing.

and ill agree for agreements sake about having the dam to block the heat from the engine.
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Old 03-29-2010, 06:59 PM   #17
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It's ugly and an eyesore. If you're gonna spend $36k on a car, why would you skimp on an intake? I would be much more impressed if you threw up a simple data log showing that this did something beneficial (I've been saying this in a lot of threads lately it seems). I'm really surprised you're not throwing any codes with such a weird design. It looks like you just found some tubing that would probably fit and threw it in there. Where did you get the MAF sensor housing? I'm sure you're MAF increased somewhat, but were any of your efforts a detriment? You could just shove a piece of cardboard between your filter and your engine and call it a "heat shield" to save money.
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Old 03-29-2010, 07:12 PM   #18
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WOW, that is a Bold Statement.

ADM has been over 900 RWHP but does not support stock engines
Just add it to the list of bold VR statements.

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To build a heat shield would not be difficult at all. BUT does anyone know for sure the difference. In a shop on the dyno, mehhh. But I drive my Camaro, lots of wind and the natural elements of outside... I know i sound stupid, But to get the true effects of a CAI I would have to fabricate some sort of air induction through the grill, partnered with a heat shield. ANYONE have experience with this??

(don't be a hater and answer Company's have great experience... They are just dudes in a garage as well)
Think about it. You can suck in hot underhood air or section off the filter so that it sucks the vast majority of it's air from outside the car. Which one do you think would give better results? You'll not only need to section off the filter but you'll need to get some rubber to make a tight fit against the hood, fenderwell, and anything else it touches. You could also build a a box that has a cover. In the end, if you build a CAI RIGHT, you'll spend almost as much as a good prebuilt model. The prebuilt models will be proven and probably look considerably better. Considering you spent $500+ on your axle back for nothing more than sound and looks, why did you decided to go cheap on something that actually makes HP.
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It's ugly and an eyesore. If you're gonna spend $36k on a car, why would you skimp on an intake? I would be much more impressed if you threw up a simple data log showing that this did something beneficial (I've been saying this in a lot of threads lately it seems). I'm really surprised you're not throwing any codes with such a weird design. It looks like you just found some tubing that would probably fit and threw it in there. Where did you get the MAF sensor housing? I'm sure you're MAF increased somewhat, but were any of your efforts a detriment? You could just shove a piece of cardboard between your filter and your engine and call it a "heat shield" to save money.

You just described my Fastlane CAI.
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It's ugly and an eyesore.


Geez, you want go over and kick his dog?

Would like to be a fly on the wall and listen to you talk to your child about thier first report card.
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Tried the same kind of thing on my V6:



Looked better than the ugly stock tube... sounded better.. BUT on the dyno I ended up losing a few HP in the upper RPM range, due to the hard angle in the tube..
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Geez, you want go over and kick his dog?

Would like to be a fly on the wall and listen to you talk to your child about thier first report card.
When you ask for opinions, you tend to get them.

If my kid's report card was good, he would receive praise, if it were bad, he would be admonished. See how that works?
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Geez, you want go over and kick his dog?

Would like to be a fly on the wall and listen to you talk to your child about thier first report card.
What do you expect someone to say when the OP ASKED for comments and suggestions. Do you expect us to LIE to him and tell him it's fantastic? We all commend him for trying to do this on his own but there's more to a GOOD CAI than just some tubing and and a filter. There's a SCIENCE to make air flow well and laminar. If $$ was an issue, then that's one thing but he paid good $$ for a AXLEBACK. That tells me that he's got enough $$ to afford a PROVEN CAI.
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If my kid's report card was good, he would receive praise, if it were bad, he would be admonished. See how that works?
Right on...
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When you ask for opinions, you tend to get them.

If my kid's report card was good, he would receive praise, if it were bad, he would be admonished. See how that works?
If your kid brings you a picture he's drawn and proudly asks how you like it you tell him its great and hang it on the refrigerator... even though you're pretty sure dogs aren't purple and have only four legs. See how that works?
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