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Old 03-29-2010, 02:27 PM   #1
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No more dirty wheels!

The brake dust was getting unbearable! Swapped out the stock pads with Hawk Ceramic; night and day difference! Stopping performance feels the same under light pedal force and improved under harder stops. Highly recommend the switch!
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Old 03-29-2010, 02:43 PM   #2
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I put the ceramic pads on also and there is virtually no dust at all. It is unbelievable!!!! I do have the same light squeal that I had with factory pads just without all the stupid dust!!!!
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Old 03-29-2010, 02:46 PM   #3
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When will the v6 model get those type of pads?
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Old 03-29-2010, 04:03 PM   #4
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i need to do this the dust is awful on my car it looks cyber grey after a long drive
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Old 03-29-2010, 05:47 PM   #5
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i need to do this the dust is awful on my car it looks cyber grey after a long drive
AJ @ ECS Motorsports had the best price that includes shipping. Quick delivery too!
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Old 03-30-2010, 06:49 PM   #6
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Ordered mine today. I'll need them with the new wheels. Also ordered from AJ. Best price out there.
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Old 04-07-2010, 07:50 PM   #7
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I just installed my Hawk Ceramics this past weekend and after the bedding in process I had a ton of dust. I think maybe it was the zinc coating dust from the new Stillen drilled/slotted rotors I installed at the same time. I cleaned it all off and it seems better now! I'll know more after this weekend.
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:02 AM   #8
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I've got about 400 miles on my ceramic pads now and the wheels continue to be dust free!
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Old 04-08-2010, 07:13 AM   #9
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You guys keep us abreast (I always liked that word) of how these pads affect your rotors. I've heard differing opinions on this aspect of ceramics and rotor wear. Would be much appreciated!
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:52 AM   #10
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[QUOTE=obe1;1650701]The brake dust was getting unbearable! Swapped out the stock pads with Hawk Ceramic; night and day difference! Stopping performance feels the same under light pedal force and improved under harder stops. Highly recommend the switch![/QUOTE


What is the part #'s for the dust free pads frt and rear
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:05 AM   #11
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The brake dust was getting unbearable! Swapped out the stock pads with Hawk Ceramic; night and day difference! Stopping performance feels the same under light pedal force and improved under harder stops. Highly recommend the switch![/QUOTE


What is the part #'s for the dust free pads frt and rear
I can hardly wait for mine to arrive. I am so tired of the dust.

There is only one model of Ceramic pad that Hawk makes but if you wanna go looking for them (you really should go to ECS Motorsports to get them, trust me, I shopped for them and no one beat his price) here are the numbers:

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Front HB453Z.585
Rear HB194Z.570

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Old 04-08-2010, 10:31 AM   #12
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I can hardly wait for mine to arrive. I am so tired of the dust.

There is only one model of Ceramic pad that Hawk makes but if you wanna go looking for them (you really should go to ECS Motorsports to get them, trust me, I shopped for them and no one beat his price) here are the numbers:

V8
Front HB453Z.585
Rear HB194Z.570

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Front HB638Z.702
Rear HB194Z.570
Just ordered them thank you
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:58 AM   #13
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Just ordered them thank you
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:57 PM   #14
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thanks for the info I will be getting me some of those.
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Old 04-08-2010, 01:15 PM   #16
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:36 PM   #17
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just keep in mind that the ceramic pads will eat up your rotors faster. They are allot harder then normal pads, somethings GOT to wear, it will be rotors
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:59 PM   #18
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Are you guys turning the rotors or just swapping the pads?
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just keep in mind that the ceramic pads will eat up your rotors faster. They are allot harder then normal pads, somethings GOT to wear, it will be rotors
Actually, ceramics are kinder than ANY full metallic and most if not all semi-metallic pads. One of their best features outside of the reduction in dusting is being rotor friendly. I have used ceramics in all my bikes and cars and have NEVER had to replace a rotor due to pad scoring. I can't say that for metallic pads....
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Are you guys turning the rotors or just swapping the pads?
That really depends on where you are in the pad life cycle. If you are more than half way thru the stockers, you may need to resurface to avoid issues. Check the rotors for sings of a lip developing at the outer edge of the rotors and for pad scoring on the face where the majority of the pad rides.

If you are low mileage, slam the new ones in and follow a proper bed-in procedure for new pads are you should be golden....

To bed-in new pads you need to find a road where you can make repeated stops without impeding anyone else or getting run over!

1. Make 3-5 stops from a speed of no more than 25mph using moderate brake pressure and avoid coming to a complete stop. Allowing the brakes to cool for a minute in between applications.

2. Allow a full cool down (15-20mins depending on weather temps) then repeat step 1 using speeds of 40 mph.

3. Allow a full cool down and repeat step 1 at 55 mph and allow a full cool down.

Sure it's a PITA but isn't everything?
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:15 PM   #21
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That really depends on where you are in the pad life cycle. If you are more than half way thru the stockers, you may need to resurface to avoid issues. Check the rotors for sings of a lip developing at the outer edge of the rotors and for pad scoring on the face where the majority of the pad rides.

If you are low mileage, slam the new ones in and follow a proper bed-in procedure for new pads are you should be golden....

To bed-in new pads you need to find a road where you can make repeated stops without impeding anyone else or getting run over!

1. Make 3-5 stops from a speed of no more than 25mph using moderate brake pressure and avoid coming to a complete stop. Allowing the brakes to cool for a minute in between applications.

2. Allow a full cool down (15-20mins depending on weather temps) then repeat step 1 using speeds of 40 mph.

3. Allow a full cool down and repeat step 1 at 55 mph and allow a full cool down.

Sure it's a PITA but isn't everything?
This has to be done first thing when installing them? The only road I can thnk of where I could do that is a couple miles out, not sure how I could get there without using the brakes.]


Also, how easy is it to install brake pads?
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This has to be done first thing when installing them? The only road I can thnk of where I could do that is a couple miles out, not sure how I could get there without using the brakes.]


Also, how easy is it to install brake pads?
The run there should be no biggie. The key factor is not to over use them when new and try to avoid stopping completely. If you have stop completely stay off the brakes when at a stop.

Changing the pads without a rotor resurface is about as easy as it is gonna get. A couple of retaining pins/clips on each caliper, gently pry the old pads back into the calipers (do one, insert new pad with silencer shim from OE pad & apply silencing grease if supplied, then do then next and so on), reinstall pins/retainer clips, pump up the brake pedal until firm, go break 'em in!!

As with anything safety related, if you have any doubts about doing it or lack the proper tools, it would be better to pay someone to do it. Even if they are milking the job it just can't take more than 45mins to an hour.
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The run there should be no biggie. The key factor is not to over use them when new and try to avoid stopping completely. If you have stop completely stay off the brakes when at a stop.

Changing the pads without a rotor resurface is about as easy as it is gonna get. A couple of retaining pins/clips on each caliper, gently pry the old pads back into the calipers (do one, insert new pad with silencer shim from OE pad & apply silencing grease if supplied, then do then next and so on), reinstall pins/retainer clips, pump up the brake pedal until firm, go break 'em in!!

As with anything safety related, if you have any doubts about doing it or lack the proper tools, it would be better to pay someone to do it. Even if they are milking the job it just can't take more than 45mins to an hour.

Awesome thank you. I am seeing that the ones from ECS are only like $130 so I'm thinking that I'll be able to go ahead and do this next.

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Old 04-22-2010, 05:36 PM   #24
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Looks like I'm calling AJ tomorrow. I'm doing a track day on May 8th, and I hate the brake dust on my rotors. The Hawk pads sound like a win - win.
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Awesome thank you. I am seeing that the ones from ECS are only like $130 so I'm thinking that I'll be able to go ahead and do this next.
$130 sounds like you're only buying the front pads.
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