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Old 04-06-2010, 05:34 PM   #1
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** Before & After Cam Swap = 70 RWHP (no joke) **

70 Wheel hp increase by installing MTI Racing V2 Camshaft

This customer has a 2010 Camaro that he uses on a daily basis. He loves the car, but wants to add some more horsepower and handling performance. So here is what we came up with…

Since he already had Kooks headers and a Cold Air intake system, we suggested the MTI Racing Stage 2 Camshaft Upgrade. It adds great power, muscular sound, and the driveability is absolutely fantastic!

The car was baselined on the dyno to see what power it had with the headers and cold air. It pulled 388 Rear Wheel HP. We promptly installed our MTI Racing Stage 2 Camshaft & Valvetrain and re-dynoed the car. With tuning, the car now pulled 458 Rear Wheel HP! That is a difference of 70hp at the wheels, just from the camshaft and tuning. That is impressive.

The truth:
Headers & Cold Air = 388.85 hp
Headers & Cold Air + Stage 2 Cam/Tune = 458.64 hp
Increase of 69.79 hp

Each car will respond a little different, but this is for sure…The LS3 Camaro really likes our Stage 2 Camshaft.





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Old 04-06-2010, 05:37 PM   #2
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Old 04-06-2010, 05:45 PM   #3
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dang that's a really good gain from the cam..nice
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Old 04-06-2010, 06:05 PM   #4
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Nice...real nice 5k+ Looks like it moved peak pwr to what 62-6300 and holds peak TQ well past 5k..
SAE numbers and AFR graph?

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Old 04-06-2010, 07:54 PM   #5
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thats an awesome increase....what the price tag for an upgrade like that? just curious...........
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:13 PM   #7
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:58 PM   #8
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nice numbers... but I was a little surprised at the low numbers for the baseline..

just had a baseline done on my line week before a cam package install... car was bone stock except for borla "S" type catback. No tune and did 391rwhp/388 rwtq... with him having long tubes & a CAI i would have atleast expected over 400 for a baseline..
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Old 04-06-2010, 09:06 PM   #9
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Dude! This is my car~ Picking it up tomorrow! Excited!
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Old 04-06-2010, 09:16 PM   #10
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thats an awesome increase....what the price tag for an upgrade like that? just curious...........
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nice numbers... but I was a little surprised at the low numbers for the baseline..

just had a baseline done on my line week before a cam package install... car was bone stock except for borla "S" type catback. No tune and did 391rwhp/388 rwtq... with him having long tubes & a CAI i would have atleast expected over 400 for a baseline..
All dyno's are different. The same car can go to 2 dynos in 1 day and make 50 less on one. It's a tuning tool more so than an a measuring tool.
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Old 04-06-2010, 09:50 PM   #12
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nice numbers... but I was a little surprised at the low numbers for the baseline..

just had a baseline done on my line week before a cam package install... car was bone stock except for borla "S" type catback. No tune and did 391rwhp/388 rwtq... with him having long tubes & a CAI i would have atleast expected over 400 for a baseline..
Agree we've done a couple headers, and full exhaust with CAI and both did 425rwhp and 426rwhp. Either way nice numbers after adding the CAM. I assume everything else was the same? Temp (outside and engine temp)?
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Old 04-07-2010, 07:24 AM   #13
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[QUOTE=MasterZ;1684769]nice numbers... but I was a little surprised at the low numbers for the baseline..QUOTE]

It is what it is...That is why we focus on the change/increase results. The driveability is excellent.

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thats an awesome increase....what the price tag for an upgrade like that? just curious +1
It IS an awesome increase. Please call or private message me for pricing. If I post pricing on here, the moderator moves the thread.
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Old 04-07-2010, 07:33 AM   #14
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Dude! This is my car~ Picking it up tomorrow! Excited!
Thought I recognized your car, hope you are bringing it to Sonic on Saturday cuz I want to see it and hear it. Show up early and take me for a cruise down Manchester out to County Line Rd? Pretty Please????

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Old 04-07-2010, 07:42 AM   #15
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All dyno's are different. The same car can go to 2 dynos in 1 day and make 50 less on one. It's a tuning tool more so than an a measuring tool.
You cannot compare numbers from different dynos!!!!
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Old 04-07-2010, 11:35 AM   #16
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Impressive gains. So what is the LSA of your cams? This is your Stage 2 cam, I take it?
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Old 04-07-2010, 01:41 PM   #17
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This is something I would love to do once the warranty is done.
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Old 04-07-2010, 01:54 PM   #18
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Just do it now. The warranty will be done!

On a somewhat serious note, what kind of reliability or degradation will that cam have on the motor? That's a pretty substantial increase and I'm wondering how it might be affecting the stock internals.
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You will have to keep us posted after you pick it up and get the chance to try it out....

and a VIDEO would be awesome.....
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awesome gains! add it to the mod list.
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Just picked it up, supremely happy with it, write up coming this weekend!
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so how was the inital feeling ?

I am picking up mine saturday from a stage 3 swap... should be starting the tuning tomorrow will post up some numbers asap... expecting 470 range..
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Old 04-07-2010, 10:06 PM   #24
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what size cam was it?
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All dyno's are different. The same car can go to 2 dynos in 1 day and make 50 less on one. It's a tuning tool more so than an a measuring tool.
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You cannot compare numbers from different dynos!!!!
+1,000,000!!! Why cant people seem to grasp this concept??

My car "only" dyno'd 412rwhp but it weighs 4500lbs and goes 11.80's all day long. I know some guys that dyno over 500 rwhp on certain dynojets and cant break into the 11's. Every dyno is diff, and is only a tuning tool to measure GAIN.


FYI Bolt on cars typically dyno in the 320-340rwhp range on the dyno I use. My cam and header only car made 412rwhp as stated earlier, which means it probably gained over 100rwhp compared to a BONE STOCK car.
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