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Old 10-02-2008, 11:45 PM   #1
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Talking Anybody miss old school rear drive wagons?

I was crusing the 'Bay and i found a nice clean and straight late 80s Chevy Caprice wagon. My dad had 3 of these wagons from that generation (78-90).

79 Pontiac Bonneville Safari wagon, the car had VINYL seats and NO AC. my dad and mom loved this car as if me and my 7 year younger brother ever spilled anything we could just hose it out

1987 Chevrolet Caprice Classic wagon this was my dad's second one and the newest had the coldest AC we ever had in a car to date. and with a throttlebody injected 305 V8 it was plenty powerfull too. we took many trips from NY to Daytona FL in this car.

84 Buick LaSabere wagon, this one was my favorite. my dad bought it from a buddy of ours who had a body shop. it was clipped in the front and was missing the front fascia and lights/grille etc and had damaged hood and front fenders but otherwise intact and it started and ran and all the stuff worked. my dad picked up a beat up but rust free LeSabere sedan for a few hundred bucks and me and him with socket wrenches and screwdrivers pulled the front clip off and had it attached to the wagon. and the body guy repainted the front clip (dark red/silver 2 tone which looked bad ass on this car) and we put the Buick Regal T-Type looking rims/tires on the car too. the reason why this car was my favorite it was the only one of the 3 that had the rear facing fold away rear seat. and unlike all GM cars of the era that had slider controls for the climate control this car had a smooth membrane covered pad that had LEDs in the 'buttons', think the face of a calculator watch the ones with no buttons.



this is the style we had, my dad was gonna get the revised body style (91-96) but he did not like the styling mostly the half rear wheel wells and the fact that the rear glass swung up instead of retracting into the tailgate. but now he would not mind one as the more aero bodied wagons get better MPG than most if not all full size rear drive V8 powered SUVs. to this day when I see one of those old RWD GM wagons i .
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Old 10-02-2008, 11:50 PM   #2
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All's I have to say is I'm glad the crossover market has relieved us of those monstrosities.
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:06 AM   #3
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Wagons are the best. They hold just as much (if not more) than a crossover but are more fuel efficient. Our old 92 Taurus wagon fit a couch, table, 4 chairs and cushions from Ikea, seats 7, and gets high 20s MPG combined with the V6.

I'm not so much for RWD wagons. Really for a wagon you need ease of driving and maximum space efficiency, so I think FWD is the way to go there. Oh if they made a wagon for the new Malibu I would be all over that for our second car.
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Old 10-03-2008, 06:17 AM   #4
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Nothing like taking a family vacation in the wagon as a kid... toured the US for six weeks. lots of fun.
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Old 10-03-2008, 06:42 AM   #5
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That's funny Mcfly. I was doing just that yesterday. Had a couple of buddies who had station wagon hand-me-downs in our high school days. PARTY ON WHEELS!!! Every now and then you see a cool looking hot rodded wagon. Just thinking yesterday that an old wagon like my families fixed up with some nice wheels would be pretty cool.
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Old 10-03-2008, 10:31 AM   #6
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Wagons are the best. They hold just as much (if not more) than a crossover but are more fuel efficient. Our old 92 Taurus wagon fit a couch, table, 4 chairs and cushions from Ikea, seats 7, and gets high 20s MPG combined with the V6.

I'm not so much for RWD wagons. Really for a wagon you need ease of driving and maximum space efficiency, so I think FWD is the way to go there. Oh if they made a wagon for the new Malibu I would be all over that for our second car.
It's not that wagons aren't up to par with space, etc...It's just that I find them extremely ugly...and that's saying something because I passionately hate the look of most SUV's too.
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:18 PM   #8
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I'm not so much for RWD wagons. Really for a wagon you need ease of driving and maximum space efficiency, so I think FWD is the way to go there. Oh if they made a wagon for the new Malibu I would be all over that for our second car.
My wife currently drives a Malibu Maxx and i really like it. It has tons of interior room and four adults can sit comfortably. I am not sure what we are going to do when it needs to get traded because i love the new Malibu but the wagon is just to handy.

On the way home from work someone is selling a Caprice Wagon but i can't convince my wife to sto pand look at it.
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Old 10-03-2008, 01:05 PM   #9
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yup I love em, the one wagon i would not mid at all is the 78-84 Chevrolet Malibu wagons.



they had full frame and came in V6 or V8 levels. I liked them because the styling mainly the back was cool, they put the taillights in the back bumper (same back bumper as the elcamino of that generation). take one of them, remove the roof rack, put some nice wheels and a good paint job and you have a pretty sweet cruiser.
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Old 10-03-2008, 01:56 PM   #10
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Magnum... catered to the market.... and was terminated because there is no market. You can get just as much into a well designed crossover or suv.

The wagon is dead until there is a market for it.
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Old 10-03-2008, 02:26 PM   #11
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man i loved 66-67 nova wagons....
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Old 10-03-2008, 02:54 PM   #12
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I love wagons. Early-70s Vista Cruisers are probably my favorites.

When I was in college, I almost bought an 80's Caprice wagon like the one pictured in the OP, except with the wood paneling. It was a great driving car, and I would have bought it if it didn't have a complete electrical failure during the test-drive
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Old 10-03-2008, 02:54 PM   #13
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:07 PM   #14
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man i loved 66-67 nova wagons....
Love them old Novas, my first car was a '62 two door hardtop all original. I wish I still had that car.
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:22 PM   #15
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I would love to get an olds vista cruiser.
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:29 PM   #16
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wagons were ugly but new ones aren't bad. Magnums(i know its a dodge) were kinda cool, i liked the mailbu maxx and the nomad concept would be awesome to see in person. So would the G8 Wagon.







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Old 10-03-2008, 04:40 PM   #17
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Man, I miss my old 77 Caprice wagon. It got me through high school and most of college. It was faded orange with the anemic 305 that hadn't seen a tuneup in about 100K miles. It's a good thing it had that engine or I would have killed myself with it.

That thing could fit 6 of us in the fraternity with 4 kegs in the back. And the beer store/gas station we went to had free air so I could jack up the air shocks in the back to handle all that weight. Those were the days...
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Old 10-03-2008, 04:40 PM   #18
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I love the look of the Chrysler #00C Wagon we have here in Europe. Baddest looking wagon on the road.
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Old 10-03-2008, 04:55 PM   #19
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Nope. Never liked 'em. They've been replaced by the minivan, which I also dislike. No style.
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Man, I miss my old 77 Caprice wagon. It got me through high school and most of college. It was faded orange with the anemic 305 that hadn't seen a tuneup in about 100K miles. It's a good thing it had that engine or I would have killed myself with it.

That thing could fit 6 of us in the fraternity with 4 kegs in the back. And the beer store/gas station we went to had free air so I could jack up the air shocks in the back to handle all that weight. Those were the days...
LOL! You too? My first car was the family orange-with-fake-wood-grain-siding '78 Caprice Estate Wagon. 'Thing was loaded for its time with vinyl seats (can't count the amount of times growing up and nearly burning my a** on those!), power windows and locks, cruise control, etc. Ours could have legally seated 8 with the backward-facing 3rd-row seat; I'm surprised you said you only fit 6 in yours, but with 4 kegs, that makes sense)... But man, was it slow and a gas-hog (11 MPG)! What was more embarrassing than driving it to school was wrecking it in front of school on the way there one time; haha (laughing now, but it wasn't funny then 'cuz I rear-ended a lady who stopped to turn left with her little kids in the back; TG I didn't hit 'em too hard and they were alright). Until then, I thought the thing was an indestructible tank. Unfortunately, what I got to replace it wasn't much better, but an improvement (and it lasted me through college; I once squeezed 8 in this smaller sucker)--a used, but well-cared-for, s**t-brown '86 Cavalier wagon (thanks, Dad).
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LOL! You too? My first car was the family orange-with-fake-wood-grain-siding '78 Caprice Estate Wagon. 'Thing was loaded for its time with vinyl seats (can't count the amount of times growing up and nearly burning my a** on those!), power windows and locks, cruise control, etc. Ours could have legally seated 8 with the backward-facing 3rd-row seat; I'm surprised you said you only fit 6 in yours, but with 4 kegs, that makes sense)... But man, was it slow and a gas-hog (11 MPG)! What was more embarrassing than driving it to school was wrecking it in front of school on the way there one time; haha (laughing now, but it wasn't funny then 'cuz I rear-ended a lady who stopped to turn left with her little kids in the back; TG I didn't hit 'em too hard and they were alright). Until then, I thought the thing was an indestructible tank. Unfortunately, what I got to replace it wasn't much better, but an improvement (and it lasted me through college; I once squeezed 8 in this smaller sucker)--a used, but well-cared-for, s**t-brown '86 Cavalier wagon (thanks, Dad).
There were a few of those heaps at my school. And yea, I could fit 8 comfortably with no kegs. But one time when I was there for a weekend event, we crammed close to 20 high school kids in to that beast for a run down the street for lunch. There were at least 4 of us in the front seat and I couldn't see a thing through the center rear view mirror.

Mine had the cloth seats, which was much better than that crappy vinyl. Did yours have that stupid fuel economy gauge on it? It was nothing more than a vacuum gauge really. I never did pay attention to the mileage that thing got. I made enough money to pay for all the gas I needed.

I drove that thing until it developed a shimmy on the freeway. After that, I inherited the '81 Bonneville which had the brougham package and was pretty upscale. I drove that until I bought my own car about a year after graduating college when I bought a '91 Chevy Beretta. Not a terribly bad, if uninspiring, basic car.
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A mileage guage 30 years ago? 'Didn't even know they had those back then, so no, ours didn't have that and that's probably a good thing 'cuz if you really knew what the mileage was, you' d be saying '' WTF?!'' That thing could barely get 140 miles/tank towards the end of its life! haha.
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Wagons will make a comeback with CAFE, like it or not.
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A mileage guage 30 years ago? 'Didn't even know they had those back then, so no, ours didn't have that and that's probably a good thing 'cuz if you really knew what the mileage was, you' d be saying '' WTF?!'' That thing could barely get 140 miles/tank towards the end of its life! haha.
It was just an "economy" gauge. It didn't tell you what your mileage was. It just was a vacuum gauge that told you "good" or "poor" or something like that. All it told you was how close your foot was to the floor.
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While i really liked the Magnum and the upcoming CTS wagon and the possible upcoming G8 wagon are nice. I miss the ones that had full frames and V8 power and had room for 7-8 people depending if it had the 3rd row 'way back' seat. you just dont see late 70s to early 90 to mid 90s rear drive wagons anymore unless you live in a area with no road salt in winter which caused those old cars to rust to nothingness :(.
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