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Old 04-08-2010, 10:44 PM   #15
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Yeah but you have to admit 2010 was a down year for Mustang sales. 66k isn't good.

The bottom line is GM needs to get a Z/28 out ASAP. It's clear the Camaro is a hot car and they need to add more flavors to keep the hype going. The 5.0 and V6 Mustangs are making a lot of noise respectively and we haven't even got to the 2011 GT500 yet.
But it was a down year for nearly everything. GM didn't even sell half a million pickups. They're usually well clear that with the Silverado alone.
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:45 PM   #16
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100,000+ coupes....20,000 verts......

what if only 5000 Z28's?
price on those 5000 z28's? and where do I find a dealer with one that isn't asking over MSRP?
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:47 PM   #17
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some dealers NEVER sell over msrp....but many have names waiting.
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:51 PM   #18
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some dealers NEVER sell over msrp....but many have names waiting.
yea and the sad part is I have a dealer that won't sell over msrp. just a small town dealer and depending on the number of Z's. . .I won't be able to get one from them. but I am #1 on his list.
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Old 04-13-2010, 08:53 PM   #19
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Actually, Ford sold more Mustangs in 2009 than GM did Camaro's (66,623 to 61,618). Granted, the Camaro was only on-sale for 9 of the 12 months, but it's still the way the numbers will go in the record books.
He never said for the year. By his statement the Camaro did outsell the Mustang, so you can stop being a Mustang Troll/Fanboy. Thanks!!
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Old 04-13-2010, 09:53 PM   #20
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He never said for the year. By his statement the Camaro did outsell the Mustang, so you can stop being a Mustang Troll/Fanboy. Thanks!!
he never gave any time frame, so technically ford has sold a shit ton more mustangs than camaros.
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Old 04-13-2010, 10:08 PM   #21
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He never said for the year. By his statement the Camaro did outsell the Mustang, so you can stop being a Mustang Troll/Fanboy. Thanks!!
Fan of the Mustang? Guilty as charged. Fan of the Camaro, also, and almost every other performance/musclecar produced. Troll, not so much, but you're welcome.
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Old 04-14-2010, 01:23 AM   #22
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Fan of the Mustang? Guilty as charged. Fan of the Camaro, also, and almost every other performance/musclecar produced. Troll, not so much, but you're welcome.
Huh, my bad. I was just calling you a fanboy/troll based on the sum total of your posts on here being fanboyish in character. The troll comment was more directed at the fact that anytime anyone points out where the Camaro is better you bring up the mustang or GT500 being better (reference your above posts or any Camaro vs. GT500 thread). I have read some of they and they are good for some laughs. From your post I am now quoting I can now see that I was mistaken because you love all muscle cars, and I am very sorry (If I could only find that sarcasm smiley )

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Old 04-14-2010, 01:43 AM   #23
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GT is a good car, but imo if GM put out the z28 b4 SS demand is fully soaked up then it could canabalize sales.

kind of mean but at least people who just bought an SS wont feel ripped of they didnt wait a few more months..
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Old 04-14-2010, 01:56 AM   #24
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100,000+ coupes....20,000 verts......

what if only 5000 Z28's?
I'd say closer to 10,000 total first year.... I hope. I don't think 5,000 would meet demand. garagelogic, you may know better then I do, but I think GT500's have sold 21,000-22,000 since 07? I think 10,000 in 07 alone?
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Old 04-14-2010, 03:56 AM   #25
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Yeah but you have to admit 2010 was a down year for Mustang sales. 66k isn't good.
I can guarantee the reason for their lower numbers has LESS to do with the Economy, and more to do with the Camaro. I for one would probably get a 5.0 if there was no such thing as a Camaro...........let's face it, it is the next best thing to a Camaro!
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Old 04-14-2010, 06:09 AM   #26
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I'd like to know how many Cobras were sold in 2009. The price on them is pretty high for most people and you can expect the same price for the Z28. Most people aren't going to buy a Z28, just like most people don't buy a ZR1, let alone a Z06. My understanding is that GM may not even release the Z28. Last I read is officially, they pulled from releasing it. But even if they do, a vast majority of Camaro sales will not be Z28s. And with GM losing money, building a car that isn't going to have high sales isn't profitable, but we shall see.
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:20 AM   #27
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I'd like to know how many Cobras were sold in 2009. The price on them is pretty high for most people and you can expect the same price for the Z28. Most people aren't going to buy a Z28, just like most people don't buy a ZR1, let alone a Z06. My understanding is that GM may not even release the Z28. Last I read is officially, they pulled from releasing it. But even if they do, a vast majority of Camaro sales will not be Z28s. And with GM losing money, building a car that isn't going to have high sales isn't profitable, but we shall see.
There were no Cobras sold in 2009 because Ford did not make one. They did sell 3,559 2009 model-year GT500's and 4,458 2010 model-year GT500's.
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price on those 5000 z28's? and where do I find a dealer with one that isn't asking over MSRP?
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yea and the sad part is I have a dealer that won't sell over msrp. just a small town dealer and depending on the number of Z's. . .I won't be able to get one from them. but I am #1 on his list.
We're just going to have to see who'll step up to the plate
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